How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul - Page 4

silverkw · 08-16-2010, 04:52 PM

Very good info, I am off to tweak my amps now!

Gene46 · 08-21-2010, 10:49 AM

Thank you for this.

mrnutman · 08-22-2010, 10:38 PM

thanks splattle....
just a stupid question from me....

the term ice-pick through ear territory what does the term means?

Thanks

Splattle101 · 08-22-2010, 11:55 PM

"Ice pick through the ear" means there's so much teble it hurts. It is harsh.

mrnutman · 08-23-2010, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splattle101

"Ice pick through the ear" means there's so much teble it hurts. It is harsh.

aah....thank you again

deepblue · 08-28-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splattle101

"Ice pick through the ear" means there's so much teble it hurts. It is harsh.

I used to put electrical tape in a "X" pattern in the center of my speaker to lessen the ice pick effect.

boynamedsuse · 08-29-2010, 11:56 AM

To improve speaker directivity, which includes avoiding ice pick sound when directly in front of the speaker, consider the solution presented in this (long) thread:

Speaker Directivity - The Gear Page

Splattle101 · 08-29-2010, 08:53 PM

I use a baffle and it deals with the problem of 'beams' as well as performing a number of other useful functions. I highly recommend it.

315john · 09-29-2010, 01:25 AM

This seriously just changed my life. Thank you. I love learning to stuff, I would like to say that some day I will be proud of my art, and this is definitely going to help.

wileyc007 · 09-29-2010, 01:49 AM

Great post thanks for the advice, I am having a les Paul made with burst bucket pups, a No1 on the neck and a No3 on the bridge, will this technique work well with those pups

Splattle101 · 09-29-2010, 11:35 AM

Yes, it should work. If it doesn't work as well as you want, then examine your wiring, pots and components. After that you can worry about your pickups.

wileyc007 · 09-29-2010, 09:09 PM

Thanks Spattle, great to see another Aussie in here. Best advice I've heard in years

Crusader Rabbit · 10-21-2010, 05:36 AM

20 years of playing (admittedly nothing pro) and I just tried this...

There is a palm print on my forehead.

*Selfheadslap*

And now I look at it, it's one of the most obvious things you could do...

Thanks Splattle, that's why I love these forums.

Geetarpicker · 10-27-2010, 02:01 AM

A cool thread on something that somehow these days fell out of style...

That said I give it a

Glen Kuykendall

cooljuk · 10-27-2010, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geetarpicker

A cool thread on something that somehow these days fell out of style...

That said I give it a

Glen Kuykendall

Dude, you're playing rocks!

BlueHeaven · 10-27-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooljuk

Dude, you're playing rocks!

+1...and I'm MORE than a little jealous of your rig!

IndySouthPaw · 11-03-2010, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splattle101

You're right, you do have to be quick with your right hand. But you'd be amazed how proficient you become. Have a look at this vid:

YouTube - BB King / Gary Moore - The Thrill is Gone

In this one, Garry Moore's right hand returns to his controls after every lick, as if by reflex. He's riding his volumes all the way home.

Good luck with it, man.

cheers,
Splat

Splattie is that you buddy?! This is Alex from the US who worked at Astra and jammed with you in Greece (Harmony). Funny to find you here and good comment. I watched that same youtube a while ago and would have to agree! Miss you mate

Splattle101 · 11-04-2010, 02:04 AM

Hi mate,

No, that's not me. I was never jammin in Greece, sorry to say.

cheers,
Splat

IndySouthPaw · 11-08-2010, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splattle101

Hi mate,

No, that's not me. I was never jammin in Greece, sorry to say.

cheers,
Splat

Well sorry buddy. I don't know there were a bunch of you "Splatty's" running around! hahahaha. Hey you should check out Joe Bonamassa. He is another great example of a 4 knob player. He has some of the best tone out there. People compare it to the dumble amps but he has taken it further and made it his own. He uses no push pulls or any extra knobs; just his 2 tone controls and 2 volumes. youtube some of his stuff at Rockaplast. Sometimes he only plays with his volume knobs like an old Jeff Beck thing.

Thumpalumpacus · 12-08-2010, 04:30 PM

Great post, and yeah, I was surprised to see four pages go past before Beck got a mention. Working out to his CDs taught me a lot about working volumes. This will help even further.

Thanks!

bill bokey · 12-12-2010, 08:45 AM

Great post, thanks so much !

Splattle101 · 12-12-2010, 11:50 PM

No wucken forries.

bill bokey · 12-14-2010, 04:32 AM

I've only very recently started using the controls on my guitars and actually not all of them have controls. My number one has to pups a 5 way switch and....that's it !
So when I read your post I followed your tip with my MIK LP copy and my Superbass Stack and I really loved it ! I now need to learn how to use the tone as I had never touched it but those volume tricks are great.
I'm definetely gonna spend more time on the Les Paul and the 335 now, thanks to you.

MERCI !

acstorfer · 12-14-2010, 07:13 AM

How about explaining a couple of my BC Rich's? Ha!

Actually, once you get the hang of em, there is nothing you can't do with these.

matthornet · 01-06-2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splattle101

"Ice pick through the ear" means there's so much teble it hurts. It is harsh.

I've heard quite a few guitarist in my locale that wields their guitars like "ice picks"!

Ice Picks I tell ya!! Out to pierce & deafen innocent ears in fury & vengeful authority...

*couldn't find a picture of treble knob on 11...

shaofu · 01-09-2011, 04:04 PM

very interesting, thank you...

Cathy Duncan · 01-09-2011, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acstorfer

How about explaining a couple of my BC Rich's? Ha!

Actually, once you get the hang of em, there is nothing you can't do with these.

Wow man, I am impresed with your choice. Can you please tell me how much did you invest on both of these?

Thumpalumpacus · 01-16-2011, 09:29 AM

Having spent a few weeks following the advice in this thread, I gotta say it's helpful. I play with settings all the time, but the stuff in here will certainly come in handy. Thanks.

bigmetal · 01-27-2011, 02:44 PM

being that i only use single channel amps (Orange OD and JCM800), i use my toggle on the LP as a "channel switcher".

since i'm more of a metal influenced player, my amps are set to ROAR! my bridge pickup is usually on 10 and i use that for all of my heavy rhythm work. i'll keep my neck volume very low and use that as a clean channel and then the middle position is for semi-clean/dirty tones. i do prefer soloing on the neck pickup so i'll roll up the volume when needed.

i'm so addicted to this behavior, that i can really only play LPs of Tele Deluxes with the same wiring.

i learned this from from watching Karma to Burn back in the mid-90's at dive bars during college.

93foxbody · 01-30-2011, 05:20 PM

With the stock wiring in my LP classic, this worked well. With jonesy's 50's kit, it's amazing. No mud, just classic LP tones. Thanks for this post.

08-16-2010, 04:52 PM	#91 (permalink)
silverkw Bartlett Retrospec Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,578 Thanks: 27 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Very good info, I am off to tweak my amps now! __________________

08-21-2010, 10:49 AM	#92 (permalink)
Gene46 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 41 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Thank you for this. __________________ - 2010 Les Paul Custom Shop LE Peacock - 2005 Les Paul Manhattan Midnight - 2007 Fender Custom Shop Andy Summers Tribute Telecaster - 2005 Fender Custom Shop 56 Strat Relic - Digidesign Eleven Rack

08-22-2010, 10:38 PM	#93 (permalink)
mrnutman Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 35 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul thanks splattle.... just a stupid question from me.... the term ice-pick through ear territory what does the term means? Thanks __________________ My Gears : 1991 Hohner Professional ST Metal S (EMG HSS, Steinberger tremolo) 1995 Richie Sambora Signature Fender Strat (HSS with YJM dimarzio at neck, floyd rose II & push button) 2009 Rally GL400 Les Paul (Tesla VR-II pups, Tune-O-Matic Bridge, Gold Hardware) 2007 Gibson Les Paul Standard 50's Neck (Antique Vintage sunburst, BareKnuckle pups) Blackstar HT-5

08-22-2010, 11:55 PM	#94 (permalink)
Splattle101 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 7,263 Thanks: 87 Thanked 551 Times in 45 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul "Ice pick through the ear" means there's so much teble it hurts. It is harsh. __________________ The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

08-29-2010, 11:56 AM	#97 (permalink)
boynamedsuse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 142 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul To improve speaker directivity, which includes avoiding ice pick sound when directly in front of the speaker, consider the solution presented in this (long) thread: Speaker Directivity - The Gear Page

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08-29-2010, 08:53 PM	#98 (permalink)
Splattle101 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 7,263 Thanks: 87 Thanked 551 Times in 45 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul I use a baffle and it deals with the problem of 'beams' as well as performing a number of other useful functions. I highly recommend it. __________________ The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

09-29-2010, 01:25 AM	#99 (permalink)
315john Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New Hartford Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul This seriously just changed my life. Thank you. I love learning to stuff, I would like to say that some day I will be proud of my art, and this is definitely going to help.

09-29-2010, 01:49 AM	#100 (permalink)
wileyc007 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tasmania Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Great post thanks for the advice, I am having a les Paul made with burst bucket pups, a No1 on the neck and a No3 on the bridge, will this technique work well with those pups

09-29-2010, 11:35 AM	#101 (permalink)
Splattle101 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 7,263 Thanks: 87 Thanked 551 Times in 45 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Yes, it should work. If it doesn't work as well as you want, then examine your wiring, pots and components. After that you can worry about your pickups. __________________ The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

09-29-2010, 09:09 PM	#102 (permalink)
wileyc007 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tasmania Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Thanks Spattle, great to see another Aussie in here. Best advice I've heard in years

10-21-2010, 05:36 AM	#103 (permalink)
Crusader Rabbit Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hong Kong (via Sydney, Australia) Posts: 924 Thanks: 29 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul 20 years of playing (admittedly nothing pro) and I just tried this... There is a palm print on my forehead. Selfheadslap And now I look at it, it's one of the most obvious things you could do... Thanks Splattle, that's why I love these forums.

10-27-2010, 02:01 AM	#104 (permalink)
Geetarpicker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 34 Times in 1 Post	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul A cool thread on something that somehow these days fell out of style... That said I give it a Glen Kuykendall

11-04-2010, 02:04 AM	#108 (permalink)
Splattle101 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 7,263 Thanks: 87 Thanked 551 Times in 45 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Hi mate, No, that's not me. I was never jammin in Greece, sorry to say. cheers, Splat __________________ The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

12-08-2010, 04:30 PM	#110 (permalink)
Thumpalumpacus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hill Country Posts: 54,273 Thanks: 1,205 Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Great post, and yeah, I was surprised to see four pages go past before Beck got a mention. Working out to his CDs taught me a lot about working volumes. This will help even further. Thanks!

12-12-2010, 08:45 AM	#111 (permalink)
bill bokey Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Beaujolais Hills, France Posts: 11 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Great post, thanks so much !

12-12-2010, 11:50 PM	#112 (permalink)
Splattle101 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 7,263 Thanks: 87 Thanked 551 Times in 45 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul No wucken forries. __________________ The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

12-14-2010, 04:32 AM	#113 (permalink)
bill bokey Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Beaujolais Hills, France Posts: 11 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul I've only very recently started using the controls on my guitars and actually not all of them have controls. My number one has to pups a 5 way switch and....that's it ! So when I read your post I followed your tip with my MIK LP copy and my Superbass Stack and I really loved it ! I now need to learn how to use the tone as I had never touched it but those volume tricks are great. I'm definetely gonna spend more time on the Les Paul and the 335 now, thanks to you. MERCI !

12-14-2010, 07:13 AM	#114 (permalink)
acstorfer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Florida Posts: 8,925 Thanks: 157 Thanked 207 Times in 57 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul How about explaining a couple of my BC Rich's? Ha! Actually, once you get the hang of em, there is nothing you can't do with these. __________________ Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you just cost him a six pack a day!

01-09-2011, 04:04 PM	#116 (permalink)
shaofu Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: athens. ga Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul very interesting, thank you...

01-16-2011, 09:29 AM	#118 (permalink)
Thumpalumpacus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hill Country Posts: 54,273 Thanks: 1,205 Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul Having spent a few weeks following the advice in this thread, I gotta say it's helpful. I play with settings all the time, but the stuff in here will certainly come in handy. Thanks. __________________ _____________________________________________ My Soundcloud

01-27-2011, 02:44 PM	#119 (permalink)
bigmetal Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Clevo, OH Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul being that i only use single channel amps (Orange OD and JCM800), i use my toggle on the LP as a "channel switcher". since i'm more of a metal influenced player, my amps are set to ROAR! my bridge pickup is usually on 10 and i use that for all of my heavy rhythm work. i'll keep my neck volume very low and use that as a clean channel and then the middle position is for semi-clean/dirty tones. i do prefer soloing on the neck pickup so i'll roll up the volume when needed. i'm so addicted to this behavior, that i can really only play LPs of Tele Deluxes with the same wiring. i learned this from from watching Karma to Burn back in the mid-90's at dive bars during college. Jessenoah likes this.

01-30-2011, 05:20 PM	#120 (permalink)
93foxbody Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St Louis Posts: 17 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: How to Use the Controls on a Les Paul With the stock wiring in my LP classic, this worked well. With jonesy's 50's kit, it's amazing. No mud, just classic LP tones. Thanks for this post. __________________ 2004 Epi Les Paul Classic + jonesy 50's kit. Peavey Trans Tube Solo Amp.

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