I Love My Crybaby Wah, Do You? - Page 2

soloben347 · 01-07-2009, 07:43 PM

really jonesy you got a 70's crybaby? how does it compare to the original?

I've had the original for a year or so and I'm lovin it I play blues and rock but not a big wah user

Gunner · 01-07-2009, 07:47 PM

I don't have a lot of experience but I really love my original Crybaby!

jonesy · 01-07-2009, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soloben347

really jonesy you got a 70's crybaby? how does it compare to the original?

I've had the original for a year or so and I'm lovin it I play blues and rock but not a big wah user

The original crybaby is still a great pedal, mine does not have the true bypass according to slowhand. I love the sweep and Tone, IMO it has more Tone-Mojo than one you would buy off the shelf at GC. I actually plugged my Les Paul Special into tonight and jammed out on a little practice amp I keep in my shop. Really thick Tone with the humbuckers, it's a sweet wah. There are lot's of wah mods nd tricks and I hope to learn a few here on the other wah that is on the way.

jonesy · 01-07-2009, 10:01 PM

Beerdog80 · 01-07-2009, 10:58 PM

This is what the guts look like right?

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Beerdog80 · 01-07-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

The original crybaby is still a great pedal, mine does not have the true bypass according to slowhand.

No, its not. But do you hear a volume drop when you step on it or a noticeable loss of tone when you have it in the chain?

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jonesy · 01-08-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerdog80

No, its not. But do you hear a volume drop when you step on it or a noticeable loss of tone when you have it in the chain?

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Yeah just a tiny drop in vol. when kicked on but seems like all the crybaby's I have used in the last 25 years have been that way. No loss of Tone and it is my only pedal, I normally just plug right into the amp otherwise.

I have another Crybaby on the way, not sure what year but I want you to help me mod it. it is missing the vol pot.

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerdog80

This is what the guts look like right?

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Pretty much, I just had the cover off long enough to put a new battery in it

Beerdog80 · 01-08-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Yeah just a tiny drop in vol. when kicked on but seems like all the crybaby's I have used in the last 25 years have been that way. No loss of Tone and it is my only pedal, I normally just plug right into the amp otherwise.

I have another Crybaby on the way, not sure what year but I want you to help me mod it. it is missing the vol pot.

Missing the pot? well, you can go several ways with that. You can replace it with the stock HotPotz II 100K pot (standard in Vox and Dunlop Wahs) or you can get one of the many other replacement pots that are out there. Dunlop even makes a 470K version but unless your into high gain stuff, this is useless to you.

Since your into the same stuff I am, a good CTS Icar 100K will fix you right up. Besides the other mods I'm gonna hook you up with of course...

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerdog80

Since your into the same stuff I am, a good CTS Icar 100K will fix you right up. Besides the other mods I'm gonna hook you up with of course...

I think I would also like to do the "True Bypass" on this next one as well

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunner

I don't have a lot of experience but I really love my original Crybaby!

YouTube - Jimi Hendrix - Have You Ever Been (Electric Ladyland Cover)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSpbuFSr2o

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 01:33 PM

Here are what the "Guts" look like in the one I have now...

Can you tell what year it is from the manufac. code on the inside??

Beerdog80 · 01-08-2009, 03:10 PM

It's a late 70's/Early 80's version before they added the power adaptor

...but I have NEVER seen that inductor before!

I wonder what the hell that is?! I'm fairly sure that is not factory since I have never seen that before. Most of the ones from that era come with the stack of dimes (whats pictured in the wah I posted earlier) or TDK Inductor. A few even had a green Fasel.

Beerdog80 · 01-08-2009, 03:15 PM

what are the numbers on the pot? Thats really the best way to date these old wahs.

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerdog80

what are the numbers on the pot? Thats really the best way to date these old wahs.

I haven't checked out the #'s on pot, just numbers on casting inside cavity....
which one is the "Inductor" you speak of oh "Wha-master"

Beerdog80 · 01-08-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

I haven't checked out the #'s on pot, just numbers on casting inside cavity....
which one is the "Inductor" you speak of oh "Wha-master"

In the photo you took, that would be the black cylinder looking thing in the upper left of the PCB. That is NOT stock so you might have something unusually special there. For that model, it should look like the picture I posted yesterday or this TDK...

Based on the picture, everything else looks stock though

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerdog80

In the photo you took, that would be the black cylinder looking thing in the upper left of the PCB. That is NOT stock so you might have something unusually special there. For that model, it should look like the picture I posted yesterday or this TDK...

Based on the picture, everything else looks stock though

"Mystery-Mojo-Inductor" way cool bro, I have to say it does sound killer! I have played these wahs for years and never tweaked or modded one. I am learning a lot dog, thanks man. Can't wait to get the other crybaby her and open it up.

***Led Zep Fan*** · 01-08-2009, 09:04 PM

As much as I loved my crybaby when I first got it, the Area 51 upgrade made it 1000 times better.

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Led Zep Fan

As much as I loved my crybaby when I first got it, the Area 51 upgrade made it 1000 times better.

What did the 51 upgrade kit cost you bro?

slowhand0461 · 01-08-2009, 10:09 PM

jonesy,I purchased that pedal "used" from the Sam Goody in Raleigh NC the summer before I started high school....the inductor could have been swapped out,I have only changed batteries in it over the years..I did adjust the sweep to make it a little "sweeter"...the only reason I quit using it was that I purchased a Snarling Dogs Wonder Wah II that replicated the sound of "White Room" almost identically(and I just had to have it,haha). I never really noticed a really detrimental volume or tone loss,being that it's not true bypass..I just prefer to keep my vintage stuff out of bars and parties we play at..I did at one time also own a Crybaby 535Q,and was never really satisfied with it(after playing the one you now have you should understand why)..I do know that there are ways to make it true bypass..but I didn't fell like doing that to a pedal that old....I hope you enjoy it for years to come!

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 10:14 PM

Hey thanks I was going to PM you and pick your brain anyways, I am really happy with it Martin, thanks again for hooking me up I really appreciate it bro

slowhand0461 · 01-08-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Hey thanks I was going to PM you and pick your brain anyways, I am really happy with it Martin, thanks again for hooking me up I really appreciate it bro

My pleasure,sir! I wasn't using it...you needed it..tada!

jonesy · 01-08-2009, 10:19 PM

It's going to practice with me tomorrow and I know my bass player and drummer will be digging it for sure. We just booked a gig for Valentines day, it's on a Saturday night. We don't play out much and I am stoked to get out and jam in front of a live crowd.

Beerdog80 · 01-08-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

What did the 51 upgrade kit cost you bro?

$140 plus shipping. It's a complete kit. Board, Jacks, switch...everything. Drop in, no soldering required. The entire wah from them is $200.

And they do sound sweet!

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Beerdog80 · 01-08-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

"Mystery-Mojo-Inductor" way cool bro, I have to say it does sound killer! I have played these wahs for years and never tweaked or modded one. I am learning a lot dog, thanks man. Can't wait to get the other crybaby her and open it up.

Hey man, if it works and sounds great, thats all that matters!

Are there any sort of marking on that thing? Kinda curious to see what it is...

***Led Zep Fan*** · 01-09-2009, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

What did the 51 upgrade kit cost you bro?

Area 51 Online Store: Vintage Italian Wah Kit - "Drop in" Version

jonesy · 01-09-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerdog80

Hey man, if it works and sounds great, thats all that matters!

Are there any sort of marking on that thing? Kinda curious to see what it is...

Hey man I checked out that Mystery-Inductor...it is a pewter gray color and there are no markings or numbers on it at all as far as I can see?

Beerdog80 · 01-09-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Hey man I checked out that Mystery-Inductor...it is a pewter gray color and there are no markings or numbers on it at all as far as I can see?

Hmm...mystery mojo...I love it!

gui524 · 01-10-2009, 05:23 AM

I said no, I prefer my Vox

But I would get one if I had the money

alligatorbling · 01-10-2009, 05:31 AM

mines modded like CRAZY i think ive done everything i can do it it lol.... even custom paint job. i love it. i even have a switch where i can flip it so its a bass wah =D

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jonesy Capacitor Ambassador Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Land of Mojo, Indiana USA Posts: 8,141 Thanks: 206 Thanked 438 Times in 76 Posts	Re: I Love My Crybaby Wah, Do You? Here are what the "Guts" look like in the one I have now... Can you tell what year it is from the manufac. code on the inside?? __________________ Soundclips mp3's Jonesy's Sound Clips Tonemojo Videos on Utube Tonemojo.com & jonesyblues custom shop You can contact me at jonesyblues@yahoo.com GOD ROCKS!

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Beerdog80 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5,522 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I Love My Crybaby Wah, Do You? It's a late 70's/Early 80's version before they added the power adaptor ...but I have NEVER seen that inductor before! I wonder what the hell that is?! I'm fairly sure that is not factory since I have never seen that before. Most of the ones from that era come with the stack of dimes (whats pictured in the wah I posted earlier) or TDK Inductor. A few even had a green Fasel. __________________

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Beerdog80 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5,522 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I Love My Crybaby Wah, Do You? what are the numbers on the pot? Thats really the best way to date these old wahs. __________________

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slowhand0461 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wendell,NC USA Posts: 1,293 Thanks: 51 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: I Love My Crybaby Wah, Do You? jonesy,I purchased that pedal "used" from the Sam Goody in Raleigh NC the summer before I started high school....the inductor could have been swapped out,I have only changed batteries in it over the years..I did adjust the sweep to make it a little "sweeter"...the only reason I quit using it was that I purchased a Snarling Dogs Wonder Wah II that replicated the sound of "White Room" almost identically(and I just had to have it,haha). I never really noticed a really detrimental volume or tone loss,being that it's not true bypass..I just prefer to keep my vintage stuff out of bars and parties we play at..I did at one time also own a Crybaby 535Q,and was never really satisfied with it(after playing the one you now have you should understand why)..I do know that there are ways to make it true bypass..but I didn't fell like doing that to a pedal that old....I hope you enjoy it for years to come! __________________ "Crank up the Drums...Crank up the Bass....Crank up My Les Paul in your Face" MOJO'd

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