KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) - Page 2

Beerdog80 · 01-20-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Voltage matters a lot with amps, but very little for Guitar Tone caps. The voltage size does have a little bit to do with the size of the filter.

I love your new avatar man! Did you make that?

jonesy · 01-20-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerdog80

I love your new avatar man! Did you make that?

Thanks man I love it to, RMC1 came up with it today. I hope to get some stickers made up for some of the guys that have already bought "mojo" and will probably use that Logo on the back of my Black T's

bfcg · 01-20-2009, 08:37 PM

It is hillarious that the russians were stuck in 40' and 50's technology for so long that they were still producing this stuff well after the rest of the developed world moved on.
Capacitors, vacuume tubes and shoes too. Too bad all of the factories that made this stuff are finally closing or re-tooling for newer technology. Some companies have bought some of the old russian tooling in an attempt to reproduce some of the old glory.

banditguitarist1 · 01-20-2009, 09:37 PM

man I really need to get some cash to order some caps from Jonesy!

Beerdog80 · 01-20-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by banditguitarist1

man I really need to get some cash to order some caps from Jonesy!

yes, you do.

Beerdog80 · 01-20-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Thanks man I love it to, RMC1 came up with it today. I hope to get some stickers made up for some of the guys that have already bought "mojo" and will probably use that Logo on the back of my Black T's

Man, I need to get him to hook me up with something like that! That is freaking awesome!

scoobyzjr · 01-20-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Thanks man I love it to, RMC1 came up with it today. I hope to get some stickers made up for some of the guys that have already bought "mojo" and will probably use that Logo on the back of my Black T's

Oh man - I would love one of those T-shirts!!! Let me know if they become available and I will buy one....or two!

jonesy · 01-20-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scoobyzjr

Oh man - I would love one of those T-shirts!!! Let me know if they become available and I will buy one....or two!

For sure just keep an eye open in the business section, I post updates from time to time.

jonesy · 01-20-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerdog80

Man, I need to get him to hook me up with something like that! That is freaking awesome!

Rich is a very talented man for sure, I was blown away when I saw it.

RMC1 · 01-21-2009, 02:06 PM

A totally Shameless,in your Face Advert for my mate David

jonesy · 01-21-2009, 02:14 PM

Beerdog80 · 01-21-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RMC1

A totally Shameless,in your Face Advert for my mate David

that is beyond bad ass bro! Excellent work!

jonesy · 01-22-2009, 01:41 AM

IMO...RMC1 Has taken "Bad Ass" to an entire New Level

dwagar · 01-22-2009, 12:35 PM

fantastic logo work, well done

Zoshquin · 02-20-2009, 12:38 PM

I find those green ussr caps warm and crispy.. and somewhat bright and kinda vintage... well that's just me but I'm quite happy with it XD

jonesy · 02-20-2009, 12:54 PM

Thanks Josh, As long as you are happy bro

jmorrero · 10-02-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dwagar

I finally found a bit of time to run a quick test of Jonesy's new Russian kaps, er, caps.

I found them both (the top 2, silver and green) to be very vintage sounding, what we're looking for in a really good PIO caps. If you don't look at them, I think they'll fool you into thinking they are vintage caps.

If I was going to put one of the two in my R9, I'd pick the silver one. I found it a tiny bit less harsh on full treble, and a tiny bit more hollow sounding on full roll off. BUT, that could simply be that the silver is +/- 20% and the green is +/- 10%.

A quick caveat, I prefer .015s and these are the "normal" .022s. I know Greg prefers .010s, maybe his ears are more toasted than mine are

. So, especially on full roll off, I don't like to get too dark. That could explain why I like the Silver better, if it's say .022-20%=about .018. [yeah, I broke my meter] If you prefer .022s, either one would probably satisfy your ear.

I also tested that brown beauty that Jonesy sent me quite some time ago. And of course, a real Bee.

My order of preference in this batch is Bee, Beauty, Silver, Green.

But, I seriously doubt if I'd be able to tell the difference, even in my own guitar, without having them on a test bed that I could switch instantly to compare them. They are all that good.

With caps, I think you have to find your comfort zone, as I said above, Greg has his zone, I have mine, others are different. Guitars are different. And if you are chasing that PIO tone, I think you can get into Russians far cheaper than Bees.

I'm not sure, but I think these Russian PIOs are the basis for Luxe caps. I've never tested a Luxe, but if these are the base, I can see why they are so highly recommended.

If you want PIO tone, and don't want to drop the bucks on Bees (especially .022 Bees), I'd say go for these Russians and keep the rest of the money for something else. Like strings. Or picks.

does the russian pio caps has polarities? when .022 mark is towards volume pot (brighter), when .022 mark is towards tone pot, mellower

kysrsoze · 10-02-2009, 01:21 AM

I've got those gray Russian caps in 2 of my guitars. They're just plain awesome. Got them for 5 bucks apiece on Ebay. I can't see spending the extra $$$ for Bumblebees or Jensens.

diceman · 10-02-2009, 01:56 AM

This is an older thread, but I'll mention that I have both the green and silver caps from Jonesy as shown in the first post. Both sound fantastic!

Rock Johnson · 11-05-2009, 10:48 PM

Anybody ever used the orange Russian caps?

matthornet · 11-05-2009, 11:25 PM

just ordered a pair of vitamin Q's from Jonesy... Can't wait for them to arrive.

5F6-A · 11-14-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by matthornet

just ordered a pair of vitamin Q's from Jonesy... Can't wait for them to arrive.

Rock Johnson · 11-19-2009, 12:08 AM

I just dug out the orange Russian PIOs I have. They look identical to the silver ones, but they're a sort of brownish orange.

They're marked K40Y-9 B (followed by a diamond).

Then on the second line, in Cyrillic letters, it says 0,022 MKF +/- 10%

Jonesy, if you know anything about 'em, I'd love to hear it.

In fact... I just found this ebay auction. These are identical to what I have:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Russian-PIO-Capa...item588468da91

jonesy · 11-19-2009, 08:06 AM

I remember having one pair of those I picked up somewhere but did not do any extensive Tone testing on them. They should sound good since they are k-40 paper in oil but may have slightly different audio properties than the green or silver cased Russian caps.

01-20-2009, 08:37 PM	#33 (permalink)
bfcg Under shop arrest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mountains Posts: 2,036 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) It is hillarious that the russians were stuck in 40' and 50's technology for so long that they were still producing this stuff well after the rest of the developed world moved on. Capacitors, vacuume tubes and shoes too. Too bad all of the factories that made this stuff are finally closing or re-tooling for newer technology. Some companies have bought some of the old russian tooling in an attempt to reproduce some of the old glory.

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banditguitarist1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Rochelle,NY Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 55 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) man I really need to get some cash to order some caps from Jonesy!

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RMC1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere in the UK Posts: 2,113 Thanks: 4 Thanked 280 Times in 14 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) A totally Shameless,in your Face Advert for my mate David __________________ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/

01-21-2009, 02:14 PM	#41 (permalink)
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jonesy Capacitor Ambassador Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 5,757 Thanks: 164 Thanked 247 Times in 51 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) IMO...RMC1 Has taken "Bad Ass" to an entire New Level __________________ Soundclips mp3's Jonesy's Sound Clips Tonemojo Videos on Utube Tonemojo.com & jonesyblues custom shop You can contact me at jonesyblues@yahoo.com GOD ROCKS!

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Zoshquin Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Japan Posts: 2,536 Thanks: 41 Thanked 19 Times in 9 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) I find those green ussr caps warm and crispy.. and somewhat bright and kinda vintage... well that's just me but I'm quite happy with it XD __________________ For every passing second comes a 2nd chance.. OUR GOD ROCKS XD DUAL CAP MODDER PICS OR DIDN'T HAPPEN!

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jonesy Capacitor Ambassador Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 5,757 Thanks: 164 Thanked 247 Times in 51 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) Thanks Josh, As long as you are happy bro __________________ Soundclips mp3's Jonesy's Sound Clips Tonemojo Videos on Utube Tonemojo.com & jonesyblues custom shop You can contact me at jonesyblues@yahoo.com GOD ROCKS!

10-02-2009, 01:21 AM	#48 (permalink)
kysrsoze Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 166 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) I've got those gray Russian caps in 2 of my guitars. They're just plain awesome. Got them for 5 bucks apiece on Ebay. I can't see spending the extra $$$ for Bumblebees or Jensens. __________________ . . ================================================== ================================= Gibson LP Studio Silverburst, Epi LP Custom, Epi Firebird Studio Worn Cherry, Kramer Focus 2000, Fernandes FR-40, Crate V33-212 Roland TD-9SX, 2 PD-125's, 3 PD-105's, VH-11, Tama HP900PTW, Roland PM-30, These drums go to 11! ================================================== =================================

10-02-2009, 01:56 AM	#49 (permalink)
diceman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16,331 Thanks: 308 Thanked 91 Times in 32 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) This is an older thread, but I'll mention that I have both the green and silver caps from Jonesy as shown in the first post. Both sound fantastic! __________________ My Band: www.comeupswingingmusic.com or www.myspace.com/comeupswinging

11-05-2009, 10:48 PM	#50 (permalink)
Rock Johnson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Columbus, Georgia Posts: 359 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) Anybody ever used the orange Russian caps?

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matthornet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: KL, Malaysia Posts: 353 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) just ordered a pair of vitamin Q's from Jonesy... Can't wait for them to arrive. __________________

11-19-2009, 12:08 AM	#53 (permalink)
Rock Johnson Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Columbus, Georgia Posts: 359 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) I just dug out the orange Russian PIOs I have. They look identical to the silver ones, but they're a sort of brownish orange. They're marked K40Y-9 B (followed by a diamond). Then on the second line, in Cyrillic letters, it says 0,022 MKF +/- 10% Jonesy, if you know anything about 'em, I'd love to hear it. In fact... I just found this ebay auction. These are identical to what I have: http://cgi.ebay.com/Russian-PIO-Capa...item588468da91

11-19-2009, 08:06 AM	#54 (permalink)
jonesy Capacitor Ambassador Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 5,757 Thanks: 164 Thanked 247 Times in 51 Posts	Re: KGB Kaps test (Jonesy's new Russian Caps) I remember having one pair of those I picked up somewhere but did not do any extensive Tone testing on them. They should sound good since they are k-40 paper in oil but may have slightly different audio properties than the green or silver cased Russian caps. __________________ Soundclips mp3's Jonesy's Sound Clips Tonemojo Videos on Utube Tonemojo.com & jonesyblues custom shop You can contact me at jonesyblues@yahoo.com GOD ROCKS!

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