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Unread 02-06-2009, 01:34 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

I tried the Dr Blues (10's) on my R0 and the A string would not intonate properly at all - I did not stretch the strings at all. I even flipped the saddle trying to get it right but to no avail. I took off the "A" and put on a different brand string and was able to intonate it fine. The Dr's also felt tighter than what I had on there before (EB super slinky's) which makes sense because the EBs are a lighter guage. So, I took all of them off and put on a set of EB 10's (regular slinkys). Much easier to bend compared to the DR's. I have one more set of the DRs so they will get a 2nd chance - however, I'm not a fan at his point.
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Unread 02-06-2009, 03:07 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

my strings arrived in the mail yesterday from "just strings" (2 sets of DR blues, 1 set of TI bebops..)
installed the TI's on one guitar, and I am absolutly loving them...
while the tension is a little higher than I would have liked (11-47 set), they sound beautiful. This is the guitar I kind of do some jazz stuff with, and these strings just changed the personality of it.
The high E string sound really nice now, before , other string brands high E always sounded harsh, or did not quite mesh with the other strings, kind of hard to explain.
I cannot put this instrument down...
As for the DR blues, I will put a set on my other guitar this weekend give them a go...


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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

i just strung up some Dr Pure Blues and I love them. They blow D'adds out of the water and I like them better than my Slinkys too. The sound a feel of them is great.

Although, when I was stringing up I snapped the G, so I had to go into my second package...
But other than that these are my favorite new strings.
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

Great thread! I've been using pure-nickel strings on and off for a few years. Recently I've been focusing on my Teles and like Elixirs to get some great twang. This thread will get me to restring with Thomastik Blues Sliders (like them) and Pyramids (didn't like them the last time I played with them, but will try again since I have a few sets). I noticed the price of the Blues Sliders at juststrings.com has gone up a few dollars - must be the dollar/euro exchange rate, but that's improved a lot in the past couple months, so maybe we will see a price reduction. I still have some in my stash. Thanks for the tip about not stretching strings, I've been guilty when restringing. I just ordered a set of Bare Knuckle Mules tonight and am looking forward to installing them with a set of pure nickel strings!
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

Excellent Thread

I have also been using the DR Blues for a while and I really like them, they don't seem to last that long but I'd rather have great tone for a shorter period of time than crap tone for a year lol.

I couldn't get and DR Blues this time so I am currently using Dean Markley "Jimi Hendrix" Pure nickels and they seem very good as well.

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i swear by ducks deluxe, cheap, tonefull and i just like them
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

Well, I'm sold.

I posted a couple of weeks ago about how I'd put a set of DR Pure Blues 10's on my R8, but didn't top wrap them like I had been with previous strings (Fenders), and how they felt stiff in comparison.

I top-wrapped a 2nd new set of the Pure Blues onto the R8 last night, and all I can say is Holy Land 'o' Lakes, Batman! Just silky smooth, really great dynamics on vibrato, especially bending up to a vibrato, and what sweet tone out of the amp. Once I chew through my last set of Fenders, which I think I'll reserve for my '06 Les Paul Special reissue, I'll be sticking with pure nickel for now...

I still disagree with the thread's author about stretching...I certainly didn't experience any serious or rapid decline in tonal quality with the first set of the Pure Blues as a result of stretching the strings until they held to pitch. In fact, as I think I indicated in my original post, they seemed to hold up way longer and retain their tonal dynamics a lot better than the Fenders I replaced them with, even after I put them through the same stretching routine as I normally do. While I, too, would prioritize making sure your new strings are stretched out before a gig, I don't know why you'd want to screw around with your strings routinely going out of pitch while you are practicing by yourself, let alone with bandmates.

One last question --- anyone have a good suggestion as to where to get individual Pure Blues (or other pure nickel) replacement strings? Thanks in advance....
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

I'm glad you're enjoying the strings!
I dont' know of anyplace where you can get the DR's individually, maybe someone else on here does?

And again, as far as the stretching/non-stretching issue, I've stretched the Pure Blues before. It works fine, but it will substantially shorten the lifespan of the string, and towards the end of its life, it will be harder to tune.

Maybe it's because of the round core, but the windings are much more prone to displacement or damage if you stretch them.

Using the DR, S.O.B., Thomastik, or Pyramid strings, and installing them
using Erlewine's method, or the similar one posted by JamesD, I've found that the strings are reliably in tune within a few minutes of normal playing, and stay in tune much better with a long life.

Even on Bigsby or Stetsbar-equipped guitars, the tuning is consistent and reliable very quickly. if it weren't, I would stretch them: I make my living playing guitar and can't afford to be out of tune.


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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

Been using that winding technique for years and, like you say, it's basic to playing in tune. I don't know --- maybe it's a difference in stye in playing in style, or its just whatever works, to each his own, different ways to skin the same cat, etc.

Regardless, I just appreciate you getting the whole thread kicked off --- pure nickel wouldn't have hit my radar screen otherwise. Thanks again.
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

well, im still undecided on the DR blues...
simple reason, after playing the guitar with the TI bebops, I installed a set of blues on a strat of mine. While they sound nice, they feel a lot "looser" than the TIs. Im kind of liking the feel of the TIs, but cannot see paying 16 bucks a set, plus shipping and exchange.
I think I may order a set of 11s in the blues and give those a try....

Damm, this unending search for the perfect tone is a pain.... and more so when your local music stores do not carry, or want to bother to order in what you want...

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...Damm, this unending search for the perfect tone is a pain.... and more so when your local music stores do not carry, or want to bother to order in what you want...

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Trust me my good man,you´re lucky. You have no idea how hard is to find decent strings in music stores here...ONLY Ernies & Darios! If I want other brands thant those I have to buy from internet e suffer with high customs fees and so...
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

Has anyone tried the Gibson L-5 pure nickel strings? I like the idea of their wound G string. Or does anyone know of any other pure nickel brands that have a wound G? Thanks for your help.
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I prtefer nickel coated strings for heavier rock styles, but I can see where plain nickels would kill for blues. However, I have had issues with buzzing and intonation/tuning stability with round core! For my own style, its GHS Boomers for classic rock and hard rock. Good tone, feel and tuning stability.
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....Damm, this unending search for the perfect tone is a pain.... and more so when your local music stores do not carry, or want to bother to order in what you want...

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Yeah, and it's erratic as hell depending on where you live. Last week I'm on the East Coast, in a small college town of about 3,000 people. Pop into the local music store just to see what' hanging on the wall, and notice they have the Dr. Blues in stock. $6.50.

My local guitar shop, in a ski town of 12,000 or so, it takes two weeks to get 'em after ordering and they set me back 10 bucks with tax...
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You guys were talking about how the G/B/E Strings also feel different now that you've chosen Pure Nickel Strings but:
Is there anything like a Pure Nickel Plain String?
I always thought that the Plain Strings and the Core Wire are always made of Steel. It's just the Wrapping that's made of different materials, Nickel or Nickelplated Steel.
Am I wrong?
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I guess I'll have to buy a few packs of nickel strings next time I buy strings, and try them out.
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my strings arrived in the mail yesterday from "just strings" (2 sets of DR blues, 1 set of TI bebops..)
installed the TI's on one guitar, and I am absolutly loving them...
while the tension is a little higher than I would have liked (11-47 set), they sound beautiful. This is the guitar I kind of do some jazz stuff with, and these strings just changed the personality of it.
The high E string sound really nice now, before , other string brands high E always sounded harsh, or did not quite mesh with the other strings, kind of hard to explain.
I cannot put this instrument down...
As for the DR blues, I will put a set on my other guitar this weekend give them a go...


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exactly!! those strings put some magic into the tone.... or shall i say some tone onto the tone.... I love mine!!
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Re: Why You Should Try Pure Nickel Strings

TI's strings are the best in the business. Or I should say, the best in the business along with a few select others.

I love the warm, but clear tone of the Thomastiks. I have a vintage (it's 30 years old now, I think it qualifies,) Tobias/Benedetto archtop that just sings with the Thomastiks. It's a very unique guitar, and until I tried them, I couldn't find a string that could do it justice.

My weirdo Squier Venus XII, (here's one that looks like mine)
has Pyramid strings on it, and it's one of the best sounding 12-strings I've ever heard. It's a warm, woody sound that can still jangle. (BTW, if you ever come across these guitars, give them a shot. Fender Japan made them in the late 90's, and they're strange looking, but are beautifully made, with great woods, fine craftsmanship, and a great set of custom US Seymour Duncan "Fender XII" split-single coils, that are humbucking, but sound like singles.)
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Just bought 6 sets of Pure Blues 11's. I'll give my reviews when they get here and I put em on.
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You guys are great for the economy! I just took the bait and bought 7 sets of Pure Blue's 10's for $35. I've been a pretty staunch supporter of D'Addario XL's but have recently tried the Gilmour strings from GHS (liked em). Findings to come...
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You guys are great for the economy! I just took the bait and bought 7 sets of Pure Blue's 10's for $35. I've been a pretty staunch supporter of D'Addario XL's but have recently tried the Gilmour strings from GHS (liked em). Findings to come...
5 a pack for Pure Blues? You got a pretty good deal there!
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You guys are great for the economy! I just took the bait and bought 7 sets of Pure Blue's 10's for $35. I've been a pretty staunch supporter of D'Addario XL's but have recently tried the Gilmour strings from GHS (liked em). Findings to come...
That's a good price. And they'll save money over d'add's and GHS in the long run, because their DR strings will outlast any regular set of nickel-plated strings, or even those bigger companies nickel strings, which use a hex core, and wear out unevenly and prematurely.
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Yeah the good price is why I jumped on them. Its the only way to fly.
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You guys were talking about how the G/B/E Strings also feel different now that you've chosen Pure Nickel Strings but:
Is there anything like a Pure Nickel Plain String?
I always thought that the Plain Strings and the Core Wire are always made of Steel. It's just the Wrapping that's made of different materials, Nickel or Nickelplated Steel.
Am I wrong?
Maybe I can help answer your question on the plain strings and then some. Yes they are made of steel but not all manufactures use the same steel. A lot of manufactures use Swedish steel and are tin plated. Pyramid strings for example uses German steel with Silver plating. German steel is a better quality and is more flexible than the Sweedish steel. The type of plating used adds to a different tone also as well as to the cost. There is no way a manufacture is going to sell strings for 5 or 6 bucks for a high quality string set. Those sets are made with a lower grade of materials. You get what you pay for in this world. The Nickel used to wrap the strings is no different, Pyramid uses the highest quality Nickel available this is why they are so expensive.
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Just got a couple packs of Pure Blues 11-50
After about an hour of playing the only differences are that that they seem a lot harder to bend than the previous set of Ernie Ball 11-48. And when unplugged it is LOUD, significantly louder than with the old Ernies.
The Jury is still out on whether I will buy some more of these, I need more playing time
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Pyramid strings it is!
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anybody had experience with D'angelico strings? PM me?
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Wow, I've been using nickel strings on LPs forever. I like Ernie Ball nickels the best. I don't like nickels on strats.
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Maybe I can help answer your question on the plain strings and then some. Yes they are made of steel but not all manufactures use the same steel. A lot of manufactures use Swedish steel and are tin plated. Pyramid strings for example uses German steel with Silver plating. German steel is a better quality and is more flexible than the Sweedish steel. The type of plating used adds to a different tone also as well as to the cost. There is no way a manufacture is going to sell strings for 5 or 6 bucks for a high quality string set. Those sets are made with a lower grade of materials. You get what you pay for in this world. The Nickel used to wrap the strings is no different, Pyramid uses the highest quality Nickel available this is why they are so expensive.
Thanks for the additional info.. I'm looking at the Pyramid site and I don't see round core listed (maybe I'm just missing it - or it's a 'given'). PYRAMID Flatwound Strings for Guitar, and Bass
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Just got a couple packs of Pure Blues 11-50
After about an hour of playing the only differences are that that they seem a lot harder to bend than the previous set of Ernie Ball 11-48. And when unplugged it is LOUD, significantly louder than with the old Ernies.
The Jury is still out on whether I will buy some more of these, I need more playing time
DR Pure Blues use a heavier core wire than most. They advertise this and is one reason for their claim to last longer. It will feel harder to bend for this very reason when compared to other manufactures that use smaller core wires for the same gauge strings. I had a set of DR Pure Blues I tried on my 335, they were 10-46 set. I had a set of D'addario 11's Nickel plated steel on my LP and the DR's felt just as stiff as the D'addario set, both different gauges, and types of strings.
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