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Unread 10-02-2008, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old English Lemon oil???

OK.. I am sorry to start a new thread because I am sure this has been discussed many times before .But I am looking to condition the rosewood fret board on my LPs but before I go and mess something up hopefully you guys can correct me. I have read allot of web articles and posts about Lemon Oil. I found Old English Lemon Oil at Wal-Mart. Will this work or damage the guitar?
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

Thats what I use....
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I've used it a few times too, on my Les Paul, and my Ibanez.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

I wouldn't recommend Lemon Oil for the fret board. Boiled Linseed Oil or Bore Oil seem to be the recommended oils for that.
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Bole needs to comment in here, he was using food grade lemon oil before getting some fret Dr.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

Howdy. Tom in Albuquerque here. I found this Googling "lemon oil guitar" trying to find out exactly what to use on my beloved '73 LP Custom. I think I found the answer in an instruction manual PDF at godinguitars.com:

"To avoid drying out your fingerboard apply lemon oil
on a soft cloth and then to your fingerboard. Allow the ebony to soak in
the oil for a few minutes before removing the excess. This should be done
with the strings removed and at least once every year."


I oiled my baby's fretboard last night, wiped off the excess, and let her sit over night. And today she does look sexy. The ebony looks darker and shinier. I'll put up some pictures post them later.
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you could use baby oil if you wanted to.
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OK.. I am sorry to start a new thread because I am sure this has been discussed many times before .But I am looking to condition the rosewood fret board on my LPs but before I go and mess something up hopefully you guys can correct me. I have read allot of web articles and posts about Lemon Oil. I found Old English Lemon Oil at Wal-Mart. Will this work or damage the guitar?
Old English Lemon Oil isn't really lemon oil, but mineral oil. Pure Lemon oil is an extract and acidic, not to mention expensive.

Mineral oil works fine.
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I would not recommend garlic infused oil for your fretboard.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

I'd only use Fret Doctor on my fretboard
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

30 Plus years I have been using Old English Lemon oil! It is on many of your hero's guitars.
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30 Plus years I have been using Old English Lemon oil! It is on many of your hero's guitars.
Works for me its all i ever use.
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Where can I buy these in Canada?
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Guitar Honey. Good stuff man and not to expensive either. Why take the chance for a couple of bucks man????
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

Old English.. Isnt that a Malt Liquor?

I just use whatever the stuff is they sell at the guitar store.
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Where can I buy these in Canada?
You can buy old english in most grocery stores....it's close to where the pledge and that kind of stuff is in our local grocers store.....
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You can buy old english in most grocery stores....it's close to where the pledge and that kind of stuff is in our local grocers store.....
Thanks buddy! I'll get some later.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

I hate to break the news to ya, but Old English Lemon Oil is nothing more than baby oil, with a yellow coloring and fragrance added to it.

And baby oil is white food grade mineral oil with a fragrance added to it. This mineral oil is the same stuff they use in food processing plants to lubricate machiney. It is also used as a wood treatment to moisturize and preserve the wood of furniture, butcher blocks, fingerboards, ...it's also used as a mild laxative.

It's also used to make your skin softer than a baby's behind

Real lemon oil is processed and can be made into an essential oil which is used as a fragrance and food flavoring (pressed from the peel) . It can also be distilled and transformed into a mild solvent like orange oil. This process is more costly.

Don't let the name fool you. The only thing in Old English Lemon Oil that may come from actual lemons may be the fragrance. Unless it's an artifical fragrance. Most fretboard treaments on the market contain white mineral oil as their main ingredient.

The link below contains the MSDS (which all chemical producers must provide) that gives you a breakdown of the ingredients in their products as well as the hazzard ratings.

http://www.monsterjanitorial.com/msd...03/4803293.pdf

Food grade white mineral oil is also considered a petroleum distillate.
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OK.. I am sorry to start a new thread because I am sure this has been discussed many times before .But I am looking to condition the rosewood fret board on my LPs but before I go and mess something up hopefully you guys can correct me. I have read allot of web articles and posts about Lemon Oil. I found Old English Lemon Oil at Wal-Mart. Will this work or damage the guitar?
Just make sure it's not Fake Old English Lemon Oil. Plenty of fake stuff coming out of England. Dodgy ba*@#ards!
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Guitar Honey. Good stuff man and not to expensive either. Why take the chance for a couple of bucks man????
take the chance? old english lemon oil has been tested more than almost any other fretboard product...i would wager if you bought a used guitar that more than 3 people have owned its had old english applied in it's lifetime either by the owner, luthier, or guitar tech.

imo you are taking a greater risk with all these boutique mystery bottles you find online and at guitar stores.

just my opinion. i oil my fretboard once every few years anyway. i dont really see the point in doing it all the time unless its really really dry.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

How can you have 'Old English lemon oil' ?

We don't even grow lemons in this country.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

Why is it that people feel compelled to root through their local hardware store or under the kitchen sink looking for the next best thing in fretboard conditioning?

Use a product that is designed to do the task and you wont have to post questions about if a product is good or not.
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Re: Old English Lemon oil???

As mentioned previously we don't grow lemons in England so all the 'Old English' stuff we send across to the states is about as genuine as a nine bob note. In England we use a mixture of unsalted Devonshire butter churned with blossom honey and depending on what olde world county you come from herbal extracts such as rosemary or Lavendar are also added. Up here in God's own county of Warwickshire we use Sage which is grown in abundance for pork pie production. The mixture of butter, honey and sage needs to be left on the fretboard for at least forty-eight hours with a damp muslin cloth over the top to prevent it drying out. After forty-eight hours it can be carefully removed and used as a fantastic accompaniment for roast pork. Now, how many bottle of Old English Lemon Oil did you want?
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As its Christmas I'm thinking of giving my guitars a treat and whipping thestrings off for a good old coating of brandy butter. I'll be sure to let you know how it goes
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This is what I am currently using, same thing as lemon oil but this has petroleum distillates.
If your fretboard is really dry it can cause your frets to start popping out or shrinking away. The lemon oil will eventually evaporate away and the rosewood will dry out again. So at Times I have taken 3 in 1 oil and applied a liberal coat to the rosewood, cleaning the frets and any gunk that may have built up, then I let that oil soak in. Darkens wood and gives it an aged look, seen on older necks. Then I take a light coat of the Dr. Stringfellow's lemon oil and wipe off the excess 3 in 1 oil. Board stays oiled longer and you only need to do this a couple of times a year depending on conditions.
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3-IN-ONE Oil is just a pure mineral oil with citronella just like a lemon oil.

3-In-One Oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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