Beano Tone?

[johnbeloe]

Originally Posted by 767400

Replica is a Bartlett and here is the rig. The guitar in the recording is not the one in this picture.

ha looks just like my old bartlett...wait, is it?!

[767400]

No this is the sister to yours. I've owned this since her conception.

[5F6-A]

nice, nice....

[dretot]

Frank,
Are you using Mullard pre's? Man, I'm lovin' that tone.

I just read your pm....... sorry, I don't check my pm's often. I sent you one back.

thanks,
dre

[rocknhorse1]

Originally Posted by 335Reasons

What about the guitar, photos and video...

Sheesh dude, have some decaf.

Awesome clip BTW, thanks for taking the time to do it. My favorite amp of all time.

[767400]

You know it's been so long but I remember V1 is a Bugle Boy, V2 Mullard, and V3 I couldn't tell you for the life of me. Thanks for the compliments.

[AbbeSauniere]

That sounds awesome! I think that pretty much settles the "did Clapton use a Rangemaster" debate. That's as close as I've ever heard anyone get and certainly much closer than any Les Paul>Rangemaster>Marshall clip I've ever heard.

[rocknhorse1]

Yep, the treble booster on Beano is debatable. There are a few parts that may resemble that sound, but he had that amp set with everything on ten, so a twist of a volume knob, with the tone knob on ten, could have a similar effect. I have read interviews with some of the people involved with that recording, and they all say there was no pedal, even Clapton said there was no pedal.

[dretot]

Originally Posted by 767400

Any recording made on a small camera is a tone killer. I thought it sounded pretty good but in my case I have three mics on three different spots on the cab. Not just a small, easly over saturated camera mic. I assume the Beano session was just one mic probably set pretty far away. I've tried that and my room sucks for that technique.

Curious is your 1967 Marshall a 20w or 25w?

Frank,
What mics and positions on the speaker/cab did you use?

thanks,
dre

[767400]

Royer 121 center cone, close in, Avantone CV-12 center cone 12" back, Sennheiser e609 edge of cone, close in. I'll be honest, I don't know sh#t (I gave up swearing for lent) as far as recording goes. I just give it a semi-educated guess on the mic position. I turn the mics preamp gain all the way up, and isolate the microphones output. With headphones on I listen to the amps hiss through the mic and fine tune from there. My assumption is the louder the hiss the closer to the sweet spot for finding the speakers high's, then I know the edge of the cone gives more mids.

[dretot]

Originally Posted by 767400

Royer 121 center cone, close in, Avantone CV-12 center cone 12" back, Sennheiser e609 edge of cone, close in. I'll be honest, I don't know sh#t (I gave up swearing for lent) as far as recording goes. I just give it a semi-educated guess on the mic position. I turn the mics preamp gain all the way up, and isolate the microphones output. With headphones on I listen to the amps hiss through the mic and fine tune from there. My assumption is the louder the hiss the closer to the sweet spot for finding the speakers high's, then I know the edge of the cone gives more mids.

Can't go wrong using your ears..... I think you did a great job. The tone is thick, clear, up front and natural. Of course, you had some nice gear to start with.

I like your "isolate the hiss" technique.

thanks,
dre

[767400]

Thank you.

[Luke Gibson]

Guys, as great as this sounds recorded I can tell you all it sounds even better in person, this is the best sounding Vintage Marshall I've ever had the pleasure to play!!! JTM45 + PAF's = Tone Heaven!!!

[IndySouthPaw]

Aside from that one guys demanding banter and criticism, I love hearing MLP members playing! I don't give a crap if it was Beano, Bonno, or Blo Blo = Green Jacket, Gold Jacket, Who gives a s@#t! You both sounded great and keep posting clips. Some of us on here type too much and don't play enough . I might have very lame gigs 2 times a week but at least I am consistently improving my tone and staying active........ get paid and drinks are free!!!!!!!!!! I would play for a crowd of 0

[IndySouthPaw]

BTW: I have no shame. I am a small bar, backing track jammer with a great sax player at the moment (actually having more fun than playing with a band you don't like). We play all over from fancy Martini bars to Hispanic Flea Markets. You guys making videos sound kick ass and don't need to bother with the "I used to play all of the time elitist dreamers." Wow sorry for my tone I am usually much nicer than this.

[767400]

I wish I could find a band to jam with. Small gigs or no gigs. I would still enjoy it very much. I love blues and old British based blues. It's hard to find guys interested in just that genre.

[beanx]

Originally Posted by IndySouthPaw

BTW: I have no shame. I am a small bar, backing track jammer with a great sax player at the moment (actually having more fun than playing with a band you don't like). We play all over from fancy Martini bars to Hispanic Flea Markets. You guys making videos sound kick ass and don't need to bother with the "I used to play all of the time elitist dreamers." Wow sorry for my tone I am usually much nicer than this.

hey southpaw, your from indy right? Im from terre haute! What bars do you play at? Do you ever come to terre haute?

[Quill]

Originally Posted by 767400

She is (my pride and joy) a late 1963 or possible very early 1964 JTM 45 running on GEC KT-66's.

Oh yeah. Beautiful.

{edit} Oooo I wrote that before I saw the picture of the amp and now I've seen the picture, ooo what a dreamy rig that is. Fantastic - who doesn't love those old Mark II's? Hm? Nobody doesn't love 'em, that's who.

[IndySouthPaw]

Originally Posted by beanx

hey southpaw, your from indy right? Im from terre haute! What bars do you play at? Do you ever come to terre haute?

Nice to know a fellow Hoosier! I play mostly downtown Indy. Every Saturday I play at Sushi on the Rocks, I play at Adobo, Blu Ultra Lounge, ICE, Kilroy's, Pearl Street, Oceanaire, and a few of the hotels. As mentioned before, I used to play at this Hispanic Fleamarket for like 6 hours at a time every Sunday. It was rowdy and probably one of my favorite places ever. They had some trouble and it went out of business. Damn I miss that place. I have never made it to play in Terre Heute but have a bunch of buddies from Rose U. We will have to meet up sometime. I played 14 days straight all over for the whole Super Bowl madness. My apartment is on the strip on Meridian and was literally in Super Bowl Village. I wish I got you sooner so we could have hooked up and jammed......the Playboy party was nuts! I lucked out so bad to open up that party

[charlie chitlins]

Sounded killer!
Great tone and great chops.
Your voice even sounds just like Mayall's!
Har!

[767400]

"Voice like Mayall's".....That's an insult!

[charlie chitlins]

Originally Posted by 767400

"Voice like Mayall's".....That's an insult!

I always figured his biggest talent was choosing guitar players!

[NowGibson]

Nice tone and phrasing, thanks for posting and good luck with finding some players.

[Jakeislove]

Great jobs, guys!

[artguy47]

Late to the party/Just found this, and absolutely love the tone and playing. Beautiful, simply beautiful to my ears.

[767400]

Thank you guys for all the nice comments.

[homenote]

Originally Posted by 767400

I don't play like Clapton so be warned . But, I thought this recording sounded pretty close to the elusive "Beano Tone". If anything the sustain was spot on at least. Amp's Volume on 7, no effects in front but a little reverb added in Protools after the recording was made. Les Paul Replica, PAF Bridge pickup, volume on 10, and tone on 5.




The rig was: Marshall JTM 45 and a Marshall 4x12 with 20w Greenbacks.

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[Brad737]

Those clips sound awesome. I have a Metro JTM Bluesbreaker combo loaded with Scumnico speakers. To me, the "Beano" tone is what started it all. My 2nd-favorite tone of all-time. If I may add my 2 cents, I also agree there was no treble booster. My amp sounds best cranked through an attenuator, with the bass rolled back a bit.

[mcphaul]

767400 - sounds great

What part of Atlanta are you in?

[767400]

Way south near Peachtree City.... How about you?