Tone Pot

Drayke · 08-05-2008, 11:50 AM

If one of the lugs has broken off the tone pot, as long as nothing is wired to that lug will the pot still work?

Drayke · 08-05-2008, 11:58 AM

meant to say the thin connection to the inside of the pot broke also with the lug

tarddoggy · 08-05-2008, 12:40 PM

should be OK,got pics?

WildeStarr · 08-05-2008, 12:54 PM

No problem, who needs tone controls anyway.

tarddoggy · 08-05-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WildeStarr

No problem, who needs tone controls anyway.

maaannn,

Drayke · 08-05-2008, 01:06 PM

I wired it to have Modern Independent volumes, then thought I would give 50's style Independent volumes a go, and fucked the pot!!!!!
I've put it back MIV, but the tone pot to my ear doesn't seem make any difference?
If the tone pot was broke completely would I get any sound or would the tone just not work, or is it because the Caps are shit? I waiting for some Vitamin Q's coming my way.

Cheers in advance for any help!!

jon_c · 08-05-2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drayke

I wired it to have Modern Independent volumes, then thought I would give 50's style Independent volumes a go, and fucked the pot!!!!!
I've put it back MIV, but the tone pot to my ear doesn't seem make any difference?
If the tone pot was broke completely would I get any sound or would the tone just not work, or is it because the Caps are shit? I waiting for some Vitamin Q's coming my way.

Cheers in advance for any help!!

Is that pot earthed/grounded? ie. Lug soldered to pot casing?

You should still get sound if the tone pot is broken. I burned out 2 pots with over exuberant soldering. Whilst I was waiting for new ones I fitted the 2 burnt ones for aesthetics so I coud fit the knobs. They were unconnected and I still got sound. In that situation, i think its like having the tone permanently at 10. Better caps will help, I went for sprague orange drops for a couple of quid and they are miles better than the stock Epi ones. So Q's should be a marked improvement.

If you do need a replacement pot(s) for the tone, I recently got CTS linear pots from allparts uk and they are great.

jon_c · 08-05-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WildeStarr

No problem, who needs tone controls anyway.

I went 3 months with no tone controls and it finally drove me mad

Drayke · 08-05-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon_c

Is that pot earthed/grounded? ie. Lug soldered to pot casing?

You should still get sound if the tone pot is broken. I burned out 2 pots with over exuberant soldering. Whilst I was waiting for new ones I fitted the 2 burnt ones for aesthetics so I coud fit the knobs. They were unconnected and I still got sound. In that situation, i think its like having the tone permanently at 10. Better caps will help, I went for sprague orange drops for a couple of quid and they are miles better than the stock Epi ones. So Q's should be a marked improvement.

If you do need a replacement pot(s) for the tone, I recently got CTS linear pots from allparts uk and they are great.

No it broke off, i suppose thats the problem then, Looks like allparts here I come

jon_c · 08-05-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drayke

No it broke off, i suppose thats the problem then, Looks like allparts here I come

don't forget to order the long thread ones.

tarddoggy · 08-05-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jon_c

don't Forget To Order The Long Thread Ones.

+1

Drayke · 08-05-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon_c

don't forget to order the long thread ones.

couldn't find them on the site??

jon_c · 08-05-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Drayke

couldn't find them on the site??

yep

they don't seem to have the linear taper in the long thread pattern. They do have the audio taper though

ONLINE SHOP | ALLPARTS GUITAR & AMP PARTS | Electronics | 500K pots | 500K audio pot CTS split knurled shaft w 3/4 inch long threaded bushing

To be honest, I'm not sure how different the effect of using linear taper is. My guitar and my brother in law's both have the same pickups, caps, and are wired 50's style. He used CTS audio taper for all 4 controls, whereas I used 2 audio and 2 linear. To my ears, I don't hear any disernible difference.

Drayke · 08-06-2008, 04:46 AM

Cheers will give them a go!

randelli · 08-07-2008, 01:31 AM

"I went for sprague orange drops for a couple of quid"

How much is a quid in US dollars?

RMC1 · 08-07-2008, 12:05 PM

This place is worth a look too Drayke.

Guitar parts spares online -Axesrus

Drayke · 08-08-2008, 04:56 AM

Nice one mate cheers

alligatorbling · 08-08-2008, 04:57 AM

you could fix that as long as there is some metal left from the lug at all on the other side, just solder a wire to whats left and then solder that to the back of the pot

jon_c · 08-08-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by randelli

"I went for sprague orange drops for a couple of quid"

How much is a quid in US dollars?

About 4$. We get ripped off on EVERYTHING

jon_c · 08-08-2008, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drayke

I wired it to have Modern Independent volumes, then thought I would give 50's style Independent volumes a go, and fucked the pot!!!!!
I've put it back MIV, but the tone pot to my ear doesn't seem make any difference?
If the tone pot was broke completely would I get any sound or would the tone just not work, or is it because the Caps are shit? I waiting for some Vitamin Q's coming my way.

Cheers in advance for any help!!

Does having that earthing plate make the wiring process any easier?

ZoomZilla · 08-08-2008, 08:46 AM

I wired mine outside of the guitar. my parts came in a box, so I just made holes in the box and put the pots on top of the box, then wired. Once I had everything wired up, I dropped the pots in, and connected the ground.

Drayke · 08-09-2008, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jon_c

Does having that earthing plate make the wiring process any easier?

I put a new pot in the end, and no the earthing plate is a pain in the arse!
Because to change one pot I had to take them all out of the guitar recess as they are all attached to it!!

thanks for all your help guys!!

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Drayke Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Peterborough, uk Posts: 537 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Tone Pot meant to say the thin connection to the inside of the pot broke also with the lug __________________ THE GEAR:- 1987 Wasburn USA 2004 Washburn Semi-acoustic 2007 Custom made Aged Les Paul w hot slag & rollin mill pups 2008 Slash Les Paul Standard with Luxe Bumblebee's Blackstar HT -5 Valve Marshall Class 5

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Drayke Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Peterborough, uk Posts: 537 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Tone Pot I wired it to have Modern Independent volumes, then thought I would give 50's style Independent volumes a go, and fucked the pot!!!!! I've put it back MIV, but the tone pot to my ear doesn't seem make any difference? If the tone pot was broke completely would I get any sound or would the tone just not work, or is it because the Caps are shit? I waiting for some Vitamin Q's coming my way. Cheers in advance for any help!! __________________ THE GEAR:- 1987 Wasburn USA 2004 Washburn Semi-acoustic 2007 Custom made Aged Les Paul w hot slag & rollin mill pups 2008 Slash Les Paul Standard with Luxe Bumblebee's Blackstar HT -5 Valve Marshall Class 5

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Drayke Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Peterborough, uk Posts: 537 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Tone Pot Cheers will give them a go! __________________ THE GEAR:- 1987 Wasburn USA 2004 Washburn Semi-acoustic 2007 Custom made Aged Les Paul w hot slag & rollin mill pups 2008 Slash Les Paul Standard with Luxe Bumblebee's Blackstar HT -5 Valve Marshall Class 5

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Drayke Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Peterborough, uk Posts: 537 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Tone Pot Nice one mate cheers __________________ THE GEAR:- 1987 Wasburn USA 2004 Washburn Semi-acoustic 2007 Custom made Aged Les Paul w hot slag & rollin mill pups 2008 Slash Les Paul Standard with Luxe Bumblebee's Blackstar HT -5 Valve Marshall Class 5

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alligatorbling Master Entertainter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Central VA Posts: 14,371 Thanks: 455 Thanked 549 Times in 121 Posts	Re: Tone Pot you could fix that as long as there is some metal left from the lug at all on the other side, just solder a wire to whats left and then solder that to the back of the pot __________________ "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti

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ZoomZilla V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The OB Posts: 2,574 Thanks: 38 Thanked 38 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Tone Pot I wired mine outside of the guitar. my parts came in a box, so I just made holes in the box and put the pots on top of the box, then wired. Once I had everything wired up, I dropped the pots in, and connected the ground.

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