Tone choke and notch filter in an Esquire Pics - Page 2

5F6-A · 01-10-2011, 07:48 AM

can you get with any of the setting something similar to the regular Tele neck tone?

jonesy · 01-10-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 5F6-A

can you get with any of the setting something similar to the regular Tele neck tone?

Yeah somewhat, I think when the Tone choke is on it makes that bridge pu sound more open and glassy, maybe a little like a Tele neck or even a Strat?

Listen to this Video with clean clips, I kinda like the "open & jangly" Tones at 2:03 and 2:40 much smoother and warmer sounding than a normal single coil bridge pu.

YouTube - Crunch Clips Esquire Notch Filter & Tone Choke.wmv

5F6-A · 01-10-2011, 08:53 AM

David,

you've got a winner here.

jonesy · 01-10-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 5F6-A

David,

you've got a winner here.

Hilario that means a lot coming from a "Tonefreak" like you, thanks!

Indyclone · 01-10-2011, 09:15 AM

Cool stuff Jonesy!

did you take any measurements of the inductor (choke)?

like inductance, resistance?

I think the one in the Gibson Varitone is a 1.5H, 4k Ohms.

jonesy · 01-10-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Indyclone

Cool stuff Jonesy!

did you take any measurements of the inductor (choke)?

like inductance, resistance?

I think the one in the Gibson Varitone is a 1.5H, 4k Ohms.

Thanks Indy!

It measures about 3.89K ohms, my meter does not measure inductance but spec sheet for this choke coil says 150 henries.

5F6-A · 01-10-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Hilario that means a lot coming from a "Tonefreak" like you, thanks!

wow! those are very kind ( and undeserved ) words!
The only thing if I had one of those

is that I'd miss the middle tele tone... any ideas???

Indyclone · 01-10-2011, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5F6-A

wow! those are very kind ( and undeserved ) words!
The only thing if I had one of those

is that I'd miss the middle tele tone... any ideas???

I think he has it wired to a push-pull so he can use it at will.

Chicago John · 01-10-2011, 04:02 PM

Hey Jonesy, many great sounds from that Tele!

jonesy · 01-10-2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5F6-A

wow! those are very kind ( and undeserved ) words!
The only thing if I had one of those

is that I'd miss the middle tele tone... any ideas???

Well deserved IMO, you are always chasing Tone. Just look what went into your "Pint O Stout" LP

I love an Esquire even with just the bridge pu, volume and tone, but I also like all the traditional Tele tones that you get from the neck and bridge. There are several ways to install this type of wiring in a variety of guitars, depends what you wanna do with it I guess. It's basically 60 year old technology, nothing new really

Mookakian · 01-10-2011, 04:33 PM

Mookakian · 01-10-2011, 04:51 PM

This is one of my favorite ideas for a single pup, amazing work Jonesy!!

jonesy · 01-10-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mookakian

This is one of my favorite ideas for a single pup, amazing work Jonesy!!

Thanks Mook

cynic79 · 01-12-2011, 01:13 PM

That sounds great!

I've been toying with the idea of building a fat necked Tele/Esquire. This would absolutely be what I'd want for the electronics. Probably not going to actually happen (I can barely solder, much less put together a guitar), but if I ever gut my G&L or grab another Tele, you and Zhang are on my list.

jonesy · 01-12-2011, 07:45 PM

New thread with a video of a Big D Varitone switch that I installed in my LP Jr. copy.

Video: Big D Varitone 6 way rotary Sheptone P-90 LP Jr.

Mouse · 01-14-2011, 09:04 AM

Excellent work Jonesy I'm enjoying these clips

jonesy · 01-14-2011, 09:23 AM

Thanks Mouse.

X–Ray · 01-24-2011, 02:17 AM

love the #3 position on the Big D Varitone

very classy - and the Fenderish volume knob works well

looks and sounds like a winner :~)

jonesy · 01-24-2011, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by X–Ray

love the #3 position on the Big D Varitone

very classy - and the Fenderish volume knob works well

looks and sounds like a winner :~)

Thanks Ray, I think #3 was one of the ones I liked a lot as well.

I installed that Witch-hat knob for a little extra Mojo

X–Ray · 01-24-2011, 11:13 PM

never too much Mojo :~)

eddie_bowers · 05-05-2011, 06:31 PM

150 henries? Wow, I thought maybe I had an inductor laying around that would do the trick, but nothing that high.

5F6-A · 04-10-2012, 12:03 PM

Love it...

1680dw · 04-13-2012, 12:23 AM

sir, this is very cool. thank you for sharing the results of your experiment. i like how you separated the choke from the varitone circut. and shared the cap values that worked best for you. this is definetly going to be a project for me very soon. i like this. i have a varitone pedal and like using it often,no batteries. since it is a plug in device, i can use it with any guitar. and also use the tone control on the guitar as well as the varitone, to get very dark hollow sounds. very cool, thank you

riekkes · 11-27-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Here is a pic of the wiring in the Esquire. 5 way rotary switch, notch filter and true bypass wired up with a Kent Armstrong TC1 Tone choke that is activated by the 500k push pull that is a master volume. That's all wired up to a Zhangbucker 9.5K Tele bridge pu that is really Fat and punchy.

I use this Esquire a lot for open tuning and slide work and this set-up will let me get a huge variety of Tones out of one pu. The rotatory has 3 fixed wah setting s and woman Tone setting as well as a bypass. I have the Tone choke wired up so it cut's out the lows and some of the mids and between that and the rotary there are lot's of interesting Tones.

Haven't had any time to make a video or sound clips but I hope to soon.

Hi, Jonesy,

i can not see a pic of the wiring in the Esquire!!
can you please email me that diagram

thanks

rik
gitaar@skynet.be

Syrus · 11-28-2012, 12:28 PM

How does the Tone Choke work?

Is it a single copper coil? Like a regular choke?

I am willing to stick one in project, as they are quite cheap.
Unfortunately, the exact function is a mystery to me.

jonesy · 12-02-2012, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riekkes

Hi, Jonesy,

i can not see a pic of the wiring in the Esquire!!

thanks

rik

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cynic79 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,082 Thanks: 81 Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Tone choke and notch filter in an Esquire Pics That sounds great! I've been toying with the idea of building a fat necked Tele/Esquire. This would absolutely be what I'd want for the electronics. Probably not going to actually happen (I can barely solder, much less put together a guitar), but if I ever gut my G&L or grab another Tele, you and Zhang are on my list. __________________ Dressing the Debutantes Facebook Alonetone Some songs http://soundcloud.com/cynic79

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eddie_bowers Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas Posts: 655 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Tone choke and notch filter in an Esquire Pics 150 henries? Wow, I thought maybe I had an inductor laying around that would do the trick, but nothing that high.

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5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sir Titus Salt's Land Posts: 8,008 Thanks: 396 Thanked 504 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Tone choke and notch filter in an Esquire Pics Love it... jonesy likes this. __________________ “The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.” Sören Kierkegaard

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1680dw Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Tone choke and notch filter in an Esquire Pics sir, this is very cool. thank you for sharing the results of your experiment. i like how you separated the choke from the varitone circut. and shared the cap values that worked best for you. this is definetly going to be a project for me very soon. i like this. i have a varitone pedal and like using it often,no batteries. since it is a plug in device, i can use it with any guitar. and also use the tone control on the guitar as well as the varitone, to get very dark hollow sounds. very cool, thank you jonesy likes this.

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Syrus Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Greyfield Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 12 Thanked 31 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Tone choke and notch filter in an Esquire Pics How does the Tone Choke work? Is it a single copper coil? Like a regular choke? I am willing to stick one in project, as they are quite cheap. Unfortunately, the exact function is a mystery to me. __________________

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