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Discussion in 'The Backstage' started by VictorB, Sep 4, 2009.
China's national flag to go up in White House on Sept 20
"Many Americans admire China due to the success of last years Beijing Olympics," said Chen.
This country was ebroiled for almost 5 decades in a Cold War against USSR and Communism. A lot of men and women DIED for that cause.
Now our own White House is gonna fly the Chinese Flag, eh? I guess since we're kinda owned by China now...I suppose maybe we're gettin' off easy, eh?
Well, color me Red Comrade. Isn't that just too damned fitting....
Our sellout to the Chinese began with Nixons 1972 trip to China:
"President Nixon assured the People's Republic of China during his historic 1972 trip to Beijing that the U.S. would not support, but could not suppress, the Taiwan independence movement.
These assurances, made in secret and not repeated in public for 25 years, are the basis for President Bush's current statements opposing independence for Taiwan - a constant in U.S. policy ever since Nixon. The documents posted today complete the delayed declassification of the Nixon trip materials, and include discussions revealing China's anxiety over the possibility of Taiwanese independence - contrary to Henry Kissinger's memoir account that they "spent very little of our time" on Taiwan.
During Nixon's trip, Kissinger also gave the Chinese a top secret intelligence briefing on Soviet forces arrayed against China. In their detailed memoir accounts of the trip, neither Nixon or Kissinger mentioned this briefing, now declassified in full and included ...."
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kissinger on Taiwanese independence:[/FONT]
"I told the Prime Minister that no American personnel ... will give any encouragement or support in any way to the Taiwan Independence Movement.
What we cannot do is use our forces to suppress the movement on Taiwan if it develops without our support."
--Kissinger to Nixon and Zhou En-Lai, 24 February 1972
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kissinger on intelligence briefing:[/FONT]
"none of our colleagues know that we have given you this information and nobody in our government except for the President and these people here know that we have given you this information. The intelligence people do not know that we have given you this information."
--Kissinger to Chinese, 23 February 1972
Nixon's Trip to China
haha china wins!!
i like chinese food, so i'm not that bummed on the imminent take-over.
Damn... How about the original Reds?? "We" lost a ton of lives in the Revolutionary War, maybe we should go invade England...
Hoisting the Chinese flag, bowing to a Saudi king..
Hiring communist czars,
accepting gifts from Chavez,
throwing Israel under the bus,...
Did I leave anything out?
dude, now i'm pissed. let's go get those jerks. tax us without representation 250 years ago!?!!? it's on now!
Logic and facts.
yeah you left out israel throwing themselves under the bus by killing over 1000 civilians in the gaza strip and just 200 militants in a "war" just this past january.
The first 'Czar' was appointed by Richard M. Nixon... the Energy Czar in 1972, I believe. Obama is following in a long line of Republican policies and doctrines.
I'm really starting to believe that Obama is a devout Republican Conservative as defined by his actions.
One of Nixons brilliant GEOPOLITICAL moves.
During the late 60s, deep thinkers (particularly of the US left) questioned how the US could ignore the PRC -- a country with ¼ of mankind. You heard this weekly on the news from the political "pundits".
At that time of course, the real threat to the US came from the Soviet Union; and we did everything possible we could to poke sharp sticks at them. Of interest to the US, the PRC and the USSR had a serious ideological falling-out in the the 60's, and in 1969 began a real shooting war with one another along their common border; the Ussuri River (tributary to the Amur River).
Nixon the pragmatist determined that by recognizing the PRC, he could get good press and placate the lefties, while at the same time vigorously stirring the pot between the two communist giants.
Quite well played, indeed.
I am not otherwise defending the Nixon Presidency.
Marxist-Leninist-Trostkyite-Socialist-Islamic-Jihadist in the back pocket of multinational corporations and anarchist hippies. Man, that's what I call multi-tasking!
Silly Geo! don't you know that the gubmint never did anything bad until Obama became preznit?
He's a Seekrit Mooslim!
You forgot 'Nazi.' that's a big one nowadays.
"Name the time and place bitch!....I mean old chap".
I understand what you are saying, my only disagreement to this is that our general tactic of pitting governments against eachother has been shown to fail miserably. It has created far more problems that it has solved.
Supporting Iraq -> Iran, Bin Laden -> USSR in Afghanistan, not to mention the intallation and support of all the puppet governments throughout Central America, South America, Africa, and South East Asia.