Need Help Appraising a 1997 Gibson Les Paul Classic

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  1. MBaker

    MBaker Junior Member

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    I am somewhat confused on this matter, and there is not much of a market for them at all. Honestly, i don't know where to draw my line on how much to give for it at all. It's in great shape, hardshell USA case included and all of that good stuff, but I can't find ballpark prices anywhere. I'm also looking to buy, if any of you guys have nice Les Pauls up for grabs. Thanks!
     
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    McLovin Senior Member

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    Have you check ebay? I see dozens of classics there.
     
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    Classics go for less than Standards if it is in good shape $1200 to $1300
     
  4. MBaker

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    Alright guys, thanks. I didn't know I there was anything significant about the model or not. It is in mint condition, might as well be new. I just wanted to know the price range of a '97 one Because that specific year is relatively tough to find.
     
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    HOT-BRIT V.I.P. Member

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    if you check Ebay you will have to do an advanced search to find completed listings, it will show you all the ones that have been sold in the last 60 days
     
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    space Senior Member

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    why the difference in price between the classic and the standard?
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    HOT-BRIT V.I.P. Member

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    the classic is not as desirable of a model as the Standard
    ceramic magnets in the pickups, greenish inlays
    it gas been discontinued by Gibson
     
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    space Senior Member

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    Other than these, They are the same correct?
    Thanks
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  9. MBaker

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    On eBay it appears that classics are going for around 1,450 or so, and some are even up to 1,800 or so! Why is this? Any clue? Also hot Brit, are you talking about USD when you mention amounts?
     
  10. lespaul01

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    Here are your comparables, all these wold in the last 2 weeks on ebay. there are all les paul classics. good luck man.

    a 2000 classic sold recently for $1540.00,
    a 2003 classic sold for $1549.00
    a 2001 went for $1400.00
    2, 2004's went for $1265.00 and $1373.00 respectively
    a 1999 went for $1400.00
    a 1999 went for $1589.00
    a 1886 gold top went for $1749.00
    a 1999 hertiage cherry went for $2000.00
    1990's went for $1513.13
    a 2005 reissue went for 1589.00
    a 1999 went for $1475.00
    a 2002 reissue went for $1500.00
     
  11. MBaker

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    '78 Les Paul Standard or '97 Les Paul Classic: I want A great guitar and both of these are available for purchase at the moment. I need some input, and what do you guys think that standard is worth?
     
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    lespaul01 Banned

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    78 les paul standards

    one just sold for $1125.00
    one just sold for $1999.00

    according to that seller says the book value is $2000 to $2500.00

    1977 just sold for $2400.00
    1980 sold for $1940.00
    1982 sold for $1500.00
    1982 sold for $4000.00

    Hope this helps. Cheers
     
  13. MBaker

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    So, being older and a standard instead of a classic, why is that '78 not far more valuable than the '97? I can get the '97 Classic for $1400. Absolutely flawless, and the '78 Standard is $1,050.
     
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    It as well has been beautifully taken care of. The only owner of it has never even worn a belt when playing it. It's not got a scratch on it except for pick marks on the pickguard!
     
  15. rockstar232007

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    It's not that there "is no market for them". It's actually quite the opposite. The reason you don't see many for sale is, because nobody wants to part with them...unless they're in a jam (bills, etc)?

    This is one of the main reasons I stay away from Fleabay. The prices of most guitars are heavily inflated (especially Gibsons). I bought my '01 LP Classic through Craigslist almost 2 years ago for $1,250 (the original asking price was $1,400). I swapped out the snot-green inlays, changed all of the plastics (blacked out), and I'm still not even close to being into what I paid for it.

    The problem with ebay is YOU (the bidder) set the prices, and there's no room whatsoever to haggle.

    ...anyway, depending on the model (Classic (USA), Premium/Premium Plus (CS), etc) the prices are anywhere between $1,200-$1,800. IMHO, WAY more bang for the buck than a Standard.
     
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    I just bought a 2006 Classic in Wine Red for $1300 out the door in excellent condition. It's a great guitar. Bought it in a local guitar store. Mom and Pop guitar strores seem kind of hungry right now. I talked 'em down $200 bucks.
     
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    $1050 for a Standard is a steal if you ask me. Hard to decide, you gotta play both. The 78 could be a boat anchor in weight. Remember too that Classics only have slim taper necks and uncovered pickups (unless they've been changed). The Std may have Tim Shaw pickups (highly recommended here) and a beefier neck. Whatever floats your boat my man.
     
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    The older Classics are a much better value than same era Standards. The '90s and early '00 Classics had an ABR-1 bridge, which, too me, is the best tone element for any modern Les Paul. Yes, the stock pups blow, but those are replaceable. Classics also have the thinner necks.
     
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    You guys are making this tough! Rather than one being a clear cut better guitar, I now want both! lol should I let them both pass by, or is one definitely one that should be bought, and if so, which? lol
     
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    The early classics seem to be more desirable than the standards at that time. If you can get a classic before 1997 they have a very slim neck and are a bit less wieght relieved. I have a 1991 classic and it weighs in at 10 pounds. It also sounds great. I did swap the pups for an old 72 t-top in the neck position and a Dimarzio dp100 for the bridge. The original pups I did not care for. I also rewired the gtr to an original 50's style wiring setup. I have played quite a few classics and I like the early ones more. The inlays don't bother me a bit. I likem. If you can get an early one in good shape. I would say grab it. I Believe they will retain thier value a bit better because they didnt make them very long. And in years future people will be looking for that model for that type of reason. But standards are nice too. It depends on the gtr realy. And what you want in it. (cheers).:cool:
     

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