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Discussion in 'Vintage Les Pauls' started by TyrackT71, Sep 19, 2009.
which year is jimmy pages #1 les paul? ive heard its very simaluar to a 58' but has 59' features?
i think its a 58 could also be a 59 its a big myth and alot of rumours going round
yeah but i heard that gibson took a look at the inside and found 59 features, again only rumors...............
when gibson examined it to make the replicas, they said it was a 59. it could be an early 60 though. its not a 58 because it had a double white PAF in the bridge.
sides, did the 58 even come in plus top?
maybe you are thinking that 58s were plain tops because the 58 reissues are plaintops? gibson made 58s with various degrees of figuring. there was no "plus top" then.
yeah sorry im kinda a noob when it comes to the historics........
no worries, my friend. we all started somewhere.
i highly suggest buying a copy of The Beauty of the Burst. Very informative and lots of pics of tasty Bursts.
THX ill do that, i love the classics...
im going with gibson on that its a 59'. only joe walsh would really know from purchasing it in the first place.
there were other features that Gibson looked at to confirm it is a 59. His #2 is also a 59. The 58 myth started in the mid to late 70s with a misquote of Jimmy in a magazine article.
No double white PAF's until mid '59, #1 had double whites, hence it's a '59, not '58.
If Pages #1 was in fact a 1960 Les Paul - would that increase the value of all the other '60 LPs and bring down the cost of the '59s?
Funny if the true holy grail all these years is actually a 1960 LP.
Its not a possibility so no use pondering that thought.
Both his #1 & #2 are 59's.
His black custom was a 1960 customized, that guitar was stolen in 1970..
Well... Peter Green, Jimmy Page and others all bought a '59 Les Paul because they thought Eric Clapton's was one. Now it turns out Clapton's was a '60s, Green didn't like the neck on his '59 (too thick) and Page shaved the neck of his to make it thinner...
well everyone thought it was a 58 and the prices for 59's were still high.
As far as anyone can say with any certainty (the serial # being missing) it is a 1959.
Only one person with direct access to the guitar has ever claimed it was a '58. That was Tim marten who was Page's tech in the 1980s - a long time after the guitar was originally bought from Joe Walsh, and not someone that I've ever heard described as a "burst expert". Marten said it in print twice & the rumours have never died down since...
However: Page has only ever said it's a '59. Walsh said it was a '59. Gibson say it's a '59. The collected & combined opinions of countless LP experts from all over the world (admittedly only looking at photos) say that it's a '59.
Let this one die the death that it should have done...
pickguard on or off?
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Not at all.
'59s are sought after for what they are, not because of JP's guitar.
Amongst the real burst collectors #1 is thought of as a bit of a dog. It's an iconic guitar because of Page, but if someone else had owned it, it wouldn't be one of the most revered bursts by a looooooooong way.
i'll never stop loving that video