Guitar case lining affect nitro finish?

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  1. kevin65

    kevin65 Senior Member

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    I'm looking at getting a case for my new LP 60's tribute, but was wondering if anyone ever had issues with a guitar case lining affecting their LP finish? I'm looking at getting a Gator case, which looks like a reputable brand.
     
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    gtr-tek Fumble Fingers Premium Member

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    I've had no issues with a good case affecting any of my guitars finish. Gator is fine as are SKB and TKL among others.
     
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    Thanks. I looked at a Gibson case originally, but it's difficult to justify the extra cost over a decent aftermarket case. There was a post here about guitar stands affecting the finish on LPs, so just wanted to check if anyone had any issues with the internal lining of their guitar cases.
     
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    The answer is "Yes", but surprisingly, it's been Gibson cases that have affected the nitro paint on LPs. Every now and then you'll run into one that's actually embedded "hairs" from the fur lining into the back of the guitar, and the rumor is that Gibson went to a white lining after there were complaints of the dye in the purple/red versions being horked up (technical term) by the lacquer on the back of some guitars. Particularly noticeable on white guitars, natch.
     
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    I kinda thought that was why the Gibson case interiors are white, to avoid any potential for affecting the guitar finish. However, the section of the case interior that comes in contact with the fretboard section seems to stain easy from examples that I have seen, so the ideal interior is one that doesn't affect the guitar finish and is not prone to staining.
     
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    Well, they're not. One of mine is hot pink, the other maroon. :hmm:

    I've only seen such damage documented once - pink lining affecting parts of a white Custom. It actually looked really cool. But I like pink. :naughty:
     
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    My white Gibson USA case ate away at my studios neck
     
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    Yes I bought a Gator case from thomann along with my 50s tribute, great case for the money - only 50 compared to the 150 rrp for the original Gibson case.

    I have heard of the dyed lining of Gibson cases transferring colour onto white LPs before, not so sure how common this is though.
     
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    My white custom had a slightly pink tinge to it for some time after it was kept in it's case for a month or two at the store when I put on on layaway.

    It's gone now but at the time I remember hoping that it wasn't a permanent feature...
     
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    My 05 Std had a really soft finish for about a year. It would need a good cleaning to get the fur transfere off if it spent too much time locked up. I do not think that is common though.
     
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    I don't have anything to back this up except a bit of chemical sensitivity, but I suspect the adhesives used to glue in the linings of hard cases eat nitro and it's a matter of how much was used, how carefully it was applied and how long it was allowed to dry vs. how well-cured the nitro finish on the guitar is.

    I also suspect there are pink stains on LOTS of non-white guitars that people don't notice because it isn't visible against the color of the guitar.
     
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    I'd bet money on your being right. I replaced a really beaten-up case for my Studio with a new Gator. When I opened the case for the first time, the out-gassed adhesive fumes filled the room. During two consecutive days, I put the open case outside in the sun and allowed the odor to dissipate, which resulted in it completely going away.

    Now I'm sure my '92's Nitro has cured, but that smell is something I don't want to encounter again. Just MHO.
     
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    I decided to get a newer replacement Gibson case with white lining. This pink staining happened after storing the guitar 4 days in the case! Don't know if it's the glue causing this. I tried sanding; but it appears that the stain migrated throughout the thickness of the nitro. The LP is a 2008 that I always kept on a stand.

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    Many years ago I made the stupid mistake of leaving my Hamer Sunburst in my black car, all day, in the summer. I opened the case and wanted to cry. The fuzz stuck to the finish and the finish was all "orange peeled" where it touched the case. What a sick feeling.

    Anyway, I managed to make that my first attempt at finish repairs and I pulled it off. I used very fine sandpaper followed by steel wool then a buffing compound. You'd never know it happened. There was one spot in the back of the neck where the finish bubbled. The bubble was small but still there. When the guitar cooled off, I managed to chip the bubble off which left me with bare wood in that one little spot. I filled it with super glue, let it harden and carefully scraped it flush with the rest of the neck, sanded then polished. Viola!

    Moral of the story; heat and nitrocel don't get along well, even with a cured finish.
     
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    Glue that holds a guitar together loosens up around 120F. If you ever need a neck reset, that's how they'll take the neck off, by heating up the glue in the joint. Of course they'll do it selectively, just heating that particular bit of glue. Bringing your whole guitar up to 120F+? Ouch.

    A good rule of thumb is to never leave your guitar somewhere you would not feel safe/comfortable. Like a pet :)
     
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