goof rings

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  1. Ed K

    Ed K Member

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    I have a 73' deluxe with goof rings around the pickups. But, the pickups are minibucckers which I presumed are original. Does the goof ring necessarily indicate that the guitar has been routed somewhere along the way? Or did they use them on non-routed guitars as well?

    Ed
     
  2. circusboy28

    circusboy28 Senior Member

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    I've seen factory goof rings on Deluxes that haven't been routed for buckers, at least on one LP that I can remember seeing. I assume that you've had a look at the routs in yours?
     
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    Goof rings are for poor minihum routes done at the factory.
     
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    :hmm:

    I tend to think they were a design idea rather than a fix for a production error (poor routing). But either way, they were installed at the factory.
     
  5. Mildperv

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    Certainly could be. I have goof ring screw scars on my Deluxe but it's been routed for HB's so I can't comment on original route neatness. I don't mind the look of goof rings, but the sporadic use of them makes me think it's cosmetic.
     
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    when you consider how many thousands of Les Pauls they routed for P90s, I just can't see them all of a sudden not able to route properly.
     
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    goof ring is a misnomer; its a pick-up schroud
     
  8. Mildperv

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    Maybe not the router, but I have certainly had grain flaws and have had an edge flair from time to time. Particularly if it is flat sawn.
     
  9. Ed K

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    Circusboy,
    I've not taken the pickups out. I figured since the rings were seated with what looks like a nail or a tack, rather than a screw, I'd leave it alone. Thanks to all for the info.

    Ed
     
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    Yep, it's been a while & I'd forgotten that they were originally tacked not screwed. I was actually talking to a mate about this yesterday, he's been around a long time and he reckons that Gibson used them on guitars with minor finish issues around the pick up cavities...so there's another theory for you!
     
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    If I was to take off the rings what is the best way, so that the tacks will reseat when I put them back on?
     
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    Ok, I'll ask. What are goof rings? I've been here for a while, but this is the first I've heard that phrase.
     
  13. circusboy28

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    They're the extra white plastic outer rings that fit around the white plastic mini hum rings on some seventies LP Deluxes. I've never seen it but apparently they are on some LP Pros too.
     
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    hbar, Here they is....
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    Aah, I don't may much attention to Deluxes. Ebony board or stay home, I always say. :p
     
  16. John Vasco

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    I would suggest leaving them on. LP Deluxes will only go up in value over time. And those with goof rings, being a lot more scarce than those without, will, I believe, attract a higher value.
     
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    Goof rings and a 5-piece top! Superb. :applause:
     
  18. marantz1300

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    I need those outer ring to retro fit P90's to my routed 71.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it won't work. They're not for converting full humbucker holes back to P-90\Mini size. I suppose you could try though...
     
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    No, but they would make sure that the pickup didn't wobble around in the routed cavity. Remember how P90s are mounted...
     

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