Tiny Terror vs. Laney GH50L

[Paul_Cat]

I'm starting another thread cuz my Line6 was fried during a thunderstorm .
I'm really into the Orange TinyTerror cuz I tried one cranked in the shop and it blew my mind (but maybe I'll need an overdrive/distortion pedal for leads?). I also cranked the Laney GH50L in another shop and it also blew my mind. I'm a toob noob so which should I shell my Line6 out for?
The GH50 went for $999, and the TT was aboot $640... Would it be cheaper to have the TT and a nice reverb/overdrive? Hmm... I'm starting to love the cute little thing...

[Termanator7]

how bout a Marshall MG50DFX for 400.00?

[diceman]

Originally Posted by Termanator7

how bout a Marshall MG50DFX for 400.00?

How about not even in the same league.
__________________________________________________ ____

Paul - you know you want it: (Laney Spam....)











Although... I'm sure you'll be gutted to hear that I got my GH50 HALF STACK for under $1 large.

[ninny404]

I hear a lot of good things about orange. I figure if they both blew your mind go for the cheaper one and get the pedal(s) you want to accompany it. Although, I do like those laney's.. So it's really up to how much you want to spend. Both would be great, so either way you can't go wrong

[ninny404]

Originally Posted by Termanator7

how bout a Marshall MG50DFX for 400.00?

I believe he said he wanted a tube amp. Besides, either of these amps he listed would blow that Marshall out of the water

[diceman]

For real though - I've never touched a Tiny Terror - you're in the perfect position to decide, having been able to play both of them! I absolutely love my Laney - sometimes I wish I had reverb and a 2nd channel, but, for my purposes, the GH50L and a tube OD box suit me perfectly. Best of luck with your decision - I can't vouch for the Orange, but I have had nothing but great luck w/ my Laney and wouldn't trade it for anything!

[diceman]

Originally Posted by ninny404

I believe he said he wanted a tube amp. Besides, either of these amps he listed would blow that Marshall out of the water

Yeah - slaughter. Our other guitarist has a Marshall MG250DFX (which is a step up)... Its not even fair to put the two of them in the same room together... but as long as I keep my Laney under 1.5 on Master and Gain, it can keep up. No bullshit... my Laney setup is 10x the rig that he's running. Just because it says "Marshall" across the front of it, doesn't mean that it isn't a piece of shit!

[Paul_Cat]

Haha, thanks guys. I don't like combo amps... Huge and in your face is the name of the game . I'm taking the step into tube land and am sort of leaning towards the Tiny Terror. The thing gets pretty darn loud for 15watts... You should really try one when you see one, Diceman!

[diceman]

I shall. I'm looking at a Laney LC30 next - its a lil' 30w 2x10 combo - and I friggin' love it! Its probably THE BEST sounding amp I've ever played through (well, within reason - Dr Z takes the cake, but at twice the price).

Also, Term - I'm just fuggin' with you - its not a bad suggestion - just a little different genre of amp is all. My buddy that has the MG 2x12 really likes it - it SOUNDS nice, but doesn't have the same nuts that a tube amp does. If you're able, get yourself a nice tube combo - a 30w+ tube combo w/ 2x12's will blow a solid state half stack out of the water. The Epi Blues Custom is in that same price range, and is twice the amp that those lil' solid state Marshalls are. Bugera makes a killer 120w tube 2x12 as well - my brother just got one for a lil over $500, and I love it!

[diceman]

For the record, I've tossed back almost my wieght in locally brewed IPA's and Scotch Ales - again, just for the record...

[155]

dfx=pile of shit please dont suggest this to people, im speaking from experience

[ninny404]

Originally Posted by diceman

Just because it says "Marshall" across the front of it, doesn't mean that it isn't a piece of shit!

To be fair, Marshall used to make pretty nice amps. Not sure what happened, but every one i've plugged into sounded really crappy. I've been looking at tube amps too.. Most likely no time soon, but i'm really liking that you really do get more for your buck with those things. Not to mention they are powerful, they take on solid-state amps with 2x the watts and still are louder haha

[Paul_Cat]

Ya, I learned that after I started shooping. My stupid Line6 is 150watts and the TinyTerror is 7/15watts and it was already winning in the volume race... Tone-wise, my Line6 was pretty good up until it was fried and I lost all my hard earned settings. The TT had the sound I wanted with three knobs...
3 knobs vs. like.. 12 knobs that don't always work!!

[diceman]

Paul - I don't think you can go wrong either way. Just make sure that TT is enough for you - I'd go nuts w/out a treb/mid/bass control...

[Termanator7]

Originally Posted by diceman

How about not even in the same league.
__________________________________________________ ____

Paul - you know you want it: (Laney Spam....)











Although... I'm sure you'll be gutted to hear that I got my GH50 HALF STACK for under $1 large.

Wowza..geez sorry, was just trying to recgomend a good amp..

[diceman]

Originally Posted by Termanator7

Wowza..geez sorry, was just trying to recgomend a good amp..

All good bro - read my later posts - I was just playin!

You want to go tubes buddy - I'll never get another solid state amp again, unless its for low volume home practice. They just don't do it for me!

[Termanator7]

Hmm, any tubes that are under 500? I kind of think I should do more solid state because I play more in my room at home than out live with my band. Any recgomendations on watts that are good for home and good out live?

[diceman]

Two suggestions:

Epiphone Blues Custom

Or

Bugera 6262 120w tube 2x12 combo:
SameDayMusic.com: Bugera 6262-212 Guitar Combo Amplifier (120 Watts, 2x12 in.)

My brother got the Bugera for like $530 at our local shop. Hell of a nice amp - I friggin' love it. Two channel, reverb and presence, clean / crunch / drive, two channels - comes w/ a great foot switch as well. 5 12AX7's in the preamp, and 4 6L6's in the power amp.

[Paul_Cat]

Toobs

[Termanator7]

I don't know. I might be leaning more towards the Solid Sate Marshall. Just don't know which one. 30 Watt or 50 Watt? I need it so its not too loud at the house and its ripping out and competing with the drums during band practice and performing. I play more at home though.

[diceman]

The tube amps mentioned sound fine at low volumes - and you'll thank me for going w/ tubes when you do play with a full band.

That Bugera is a sweet ass amp for the money - I think it sounds friggin' awesome - and the price is right. I think you'd be crazy to spend almost the same money on a solid state Marshall.

(and hell - lets face it - they're BOTH made in China - "Marshall" or not...)

[Termanator7]

Yeah, but I saw that it doesn't have that many effects, how bout a Laney Tube? Are they any good? Is the price ok?

[diceman]

You'll spend more on a Laney (British made Laney anyways).

What effects do you need, exactly? I'd suggest getting a great sounding amp, and then a few pedals or a multi-effects processor, rather than going w/ a gimickey "modeling amp" that has a bunch of onboard 'models' but no soul of its' own.



I'll say it again... that Bugera ROCKS for the money! It sounds awesome, and will easily keep up w/ a 120w solid state FULL STACK... and its portable!

Sorry for the thread hijack, Paul.

[Termanator7]

Hmm, its just that none of my local shops have the bugera, trust me, if they did, i would go there tomorrow and try it out. Im kind of looking for like Flanging, Chorus, Delay, and Reverb.

[ninny404]

Originally Posted by Termanator7

Hmm, its just that none of my local shops have the bugera, trust me, if they did, i would go there tomorrow and try it out. Im kind of looking for like Flanging, Chorus, Delay, and Reverb.

Usually the onboard effects sound really cheesy. Like Diceman said, go with the better amp (Tube) and get some pedals. Digitech and Boss make great pedals with nice sounding effects, you'd be a lot happier.

Now, what was that you were saying about "thread hijacking" in the Antique Ivory thread? haha, i'm kidding

[grozza]

Originally Posted by diceman

...and you'll thank me for going w/ tubes when you do play with a full band.

He's right, especially with a good head and quad box

[needlespauls]

Solid State? Onboard effects? Bedroom to gig volumes? I haven't played anything better for the money than the Roland Cube 60. Paul and Term, since both of you are discussing tube amps in this thread, and both are into harder rock type of tones, ever try out the Krank Rev. Jr. There was a great review in Guitarworld last month. Check out the first sound-clip on this page............ROCKS. This clip is using a Bad Monkey OD pedal for a boost. It doesn't need to get any heavier than this........

netmusicians.org - the guitar gear mp3 database

[Scooter2112]

What effects do you need, exactly? I'd suggest getting a great sounding amp, and then a few pedals or a multi-effects processor, rather than going w/ a gimickey "modeling amp" that has a bunch of onboard 'models' but no soul of its' own.

I'll play Devil's advocate and have to disagree with you there. "Gimmicky modeling amps" are not all created equal. If tube amps were all you would ever need, it doesn't make sense to spend $500 on an amp, only to have to follow with another $300-$600 or more for effects and cables to "get the sound you want".

[diceman]

Originally Posted by Scooter2112

I'll play Devil's advocate and have to disagree with you there. "Gimmicky modeling amps" are not all created equal. If tube amps were all you would ever need, it doesn't make sense to spend $500 on an amp, only to have to follow with another $300-$600 or more for effects and cables to "get the sound you want".

Clearly, there is a market both for solid state and tube amps. I have a solid state practice amp, and I really like it (simple to use and maintain) - but it doesn't hold a candle to any tube amp that I've ever played. The Bugera that I mentioned will put out virtually any overdrive sound that you want - from light crunch to metal fuzz - and has onboard reverb. Adding a pedal or two down the road is in my opinion smarter than getting a SS amp loaded with effects that are most often times a pain in the ass to access anyways.

I stand by my original post and opinion, but welcome yours as well. I'd take a nice tube amp any day over a solid state that "models" after said tube amp and a few others. Call me old fashioned, but all I need is a great sounding tube amp w/ a nice clean channel, a good tube overdrive pedal, and a guitar. I've got a multi effects processor that I pull out on occasion, but not very often. I've had my share of solid state amps, and have yet to own or play on one that I liked more than a tube amp of similar size. I'm still of the opinion that the 500+ "effects" are gimickey, and don't at all do it for me. Again, just my opinion, as I know that there are a lot of people with modeling amps who really like them.

[needlespauls]

KICK ASS clip with the Blackheart Little Giant 5/3 watt Class A Head with a 4x12 cab and a Behringer VT999 pedal!!!!! Nice!!

http://www.netmusicians.org/files/77...;20Shuffle.mp3