Fender 57 tweed deluxe

heavy blueser · 03-20-2009, 11:03 AM

so i just skimmed thru some guitar mags i have lyin´ round the house and an aticle about the reissue of the legndary 57 tweed dleuxe amp from fender caught my eye( yeah yeah i know its been out for some time, but well......).

everyone from bfg ( gibbons that is) to countless nashville session players dig that amp so i want to know which mlplers use that lil´ monster!?!

i personally havent played one i only have bassman experience.
but since that reviewer hollered how fuckin amazing that amp is i thought i might get some more opinions from the mlps amp experts.
seems that that ´57 is even capable of bedroom playing ( i mean good sound at low volume settings), or am i mistaken?

***b-squared*** · 03-20-2009, 11:06 AM

I've played through one...it's a great amp!

If I got rid of my tweed Bassman I might get something like that to replace it.

BB

heavy blueser · 03-20-2009, 11:08 AM

yep bassmans are cool but a bit ( and thats an understatement) loud for my purposes!
how is the 57 compared to that?

Stowburst · 03-20-2009, 03:22 PM

I would have a 57 Deluxe anytime.. cash is the problem

***b-squared*** · 03-20-2009, 03:44 PM

The tones are alike, but a little different...different circuit of course.

When I got my Bassman it had a replacement OT...the chassis is currently down in Texas at Kendrick amps...Gerald Weber is a Fender Guru (Billy G. goes to him all the time), and I'm getting one of his hand-wound Bassman OTs as well as an overhaul.

Gerald also make a great attenuator for the Bassman, cuts the dbs down to a respectable level with out sacrificing tone.

BB

5F6-A · 03-20-2009, 03:57 PM

listen to this demo... my Strat through a tweed deluxe clone

YouTube - relic style strat rockin' with a tweed Deluxe amp

heavy blueser · 03-20-2009, 05:22 PM

hey man thanks for sharin the video with us.

and since you have a clone of that amp i guess you can answer the question ( cause of your experience).
how loud is that amp?
i hear the drums on your video plus you jammin´ away pretty balanced so i guess that thing can compete with a tame playin drummer......

5F6-A · 03-21-2009, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavybloozer

hey man thanks for sharin the video with us.

and since you have a clone of that amp i guess you can answer the question ( cause of your experience).
how loud is that amp?
i hear the drums on your video plus you jammin´ away pretty balanced so i guess that thing can compete with a tame playin drummer......

at 10 it is loud enough to play with a medium hitter drummer.... just.

ES350 · 03-22-2009, 06:08 PM

10-12 watts with a bright, efficient speaker (a Blue, for instance) can be pretty loud, but not necessarily very clean...I can only use mine for semi-acoustic gigs (w/ unmiked standup bass, acoustic piano, etc).

Horse · 03-26-2009, 01:47 PM

so what is fender's modern equivalent?

ehren · 03-26-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Horse

so what is fender's modern equivalent?

There really isn't one. The closest thing I can think of is the Pro Junior, but even that amp is a better choice for a band situation. The tweed deluxe is a sweet sounding amp, but gets much too compressed and mushy at full volume. I tried to gig with one and it just wasn't able to cut through a mix. And yes, Neil Young uses one, and he mics it and amplifies it through a pretty complex solid-state set-up to get to appropriate stage volumes. I would think it would be fine for maybe a 3 piece blues band that played small bars, but it gets lost in a mix fast, IMO, of course.

refin · 03-29-2009, 12:38 AM

I've used my original '57 quite a bit---it doesn't have much headroom,but sounds good at around 4.

Horse · 03-29-2009, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ehren

There really isn't one. The closest thing I can think of is the Pro Junior, but even that amp is a better choice for a band situation. The tweed deluxe is a sweet sounding amp, but gets much too compressed and mushy at full volume. I tried to gig with one and it just wasn't able to cut through a mix. And yes, Neil Young uses one, and he mics it and amplifies it through a pretty complex solid-state set-up to get to appropriate stage volumes. I would think it would be fine for maybe a 3 piece blues band that played small bars, but it gets lost in a mix fast, IMO, of course.

thanks for the info, i wouldnt gig with it, just for home recording. yeah they are sweet sounding, lovely tone

***b-squared*** · 03-29-2009, 05:08 AM

I mentioned the attenuator Gerald Weber (Kendrick Amps) makes...I spoke to him Friday about it. It's called "The Decrescendo" and is a pretty simple box. It has 3 settings: true bypass, -6db, and -12db.

He said the -6db takes it down enough to take out the hiss when you crank it, but is still loud enough for a drummer...about 11 watts. In the -12db mode it goes down to around 3 watts, and is quiet enough to play in the house with it cranked.

I should get it back late this week, or early the next--I'll be sure and record some clips with it!

BB

03-20-2009, 11:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
heavy blueser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 468 Thanks: 1 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	Fender 57 tweed deluxe so i just skimmed thru some guitar mags i have lyin´ round the house and an aticle about the reissue of the legndary 57 tweed dleuxe amp from fender caught my eye( yeah yeah i know its been out for some time, but well......). everyone from bfg ( gibbons that is) to countless nashville session players dig that amp so i want to know which mlplers use that lil´ monster!?! i personally havent played one i only have bassman experience. but since that reviewer hollered how fuckin amazing that amp is i thought i might get some more opinions from the mlps amp experts. seems that that ´57 is even capable of bedroom playing ( i mean good sound at low volume settings), or am i mistaken? __________________ I told you mister I ain't got no house Ain't got no car I got me a 1950(s) Les Paul guitar

03-20-2009, 11:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
*b-squared* 'MLP Mid-West' Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 13,918 Thanks: 378 Thanked 246 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe I've played through one...it's a great amp! If I got rid of my tweed Bassman I might get something like that to replace it. BB __________________ 'Do it again on the next verse, and people think you meant it.' Chet Atkins

03-20-2009, 11:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
heavy blueser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 468 Thanks: 1 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe yep bassmans are cool but a bit ( and thats an understatement) loud for my purposes! how is the 57 compared to that? __________________ I told you mister I ain't got no house Ain't got no car I got me a 1950(s) Les Paul guitar

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Stowburst V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,019 Thanks: 34 Thanked 22 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe I would have a 57 Deluxe anytime.. cash is the problem __________________ My vids: www.youtube.com/stowburst Im learning to fly.. But I ain't got wings

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*b-squared* 'MLP Mid-West' Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 13,918 Thanks: 378 Thanked 246 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe The tones are alike, but a little different...different circuit of course. When I got my Bassman it had a replacement OT...the chassis is currently down in Texas at Kendrick amps...Gerald Weber is a Fender Guru (Billy G. goes to him all the time), and I'm getting one of his hand-wound Bassman OTs as well as an overhaul. Gerald also make a great attenuator for the Bassman, cuts the dbs down to a respectable level with out sacrificing tone. BB __________________ 'Do it again on the next verse, and people think you meant it.' Chet Atkins

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03-20-2009, 05:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
heavy blueser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 468 Thanks: 1 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe hey man thanks for sharin the video with us. and since you have a clone of that amp i guess you can answer the question ( cause of your experience). how loud is that amp? i hear the drums on your video plus you jammin´ away pretty balanced so i guess that thing can compete with a tame playin drummer...... __________________ I told you mister I ain't got no house Ain't got no car I got me a 1950(s) Les Paul guitar

03-22-2009, 06:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
ES350 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 267 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe 10-12 watts with a bright, efficient speaker (a Blue, for instance) can be pretty loud, but not necessarily very clean...I can only use mine for semi-acoustic gigs (w/ unmiked standup bass, acoustic piano, etc).

03-26-2009, 01:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
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03-29-2009, 12:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
refin V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 980 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe I've used my original '57 quite a bit---it doesn't have much headroom,but sounds good at around 4. __________________ "Play skillfully with a loud noise." PS. 33:3 MyJams http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=330460 "Sometimes you have to gag on fancy before you can appreciate the plain".

03-29-2009, 05:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
*b-squared* 'MLP Mid-West' Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: About 15 minutes from the LOU...(STL) Posts: 13,918 Thanks: 378 Thanked 246 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Fender 57 tweed deluxe I mentioned the attenuator Gerald Weber (Kendrick Amps) makes...I spoke to him Friday about it. It's called "The Decrescendo" and is a pretty simple box. It has 3 settings: true bypass, -6db, and -12db. He said the -6db takes it down enough to take out the hiss when you crank it, but is still loud enough for a drummer...about 11 watts. In the -12db mode it goes down to around 3 watts, and is quiet enough to play in the house with it cranked. I should get it back late this week, or early the next--I'll be sure and record some clips with it! BB __________________ 'Do it again on the next verse, and people think you meant it.' Chet Atkins

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