Marshall vintage modern.

[Shawn Fate]

Is there any reason I should not get one of these ?
How close can it get to a JCM 800 sound ?

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Shawn Fate

Is there any reason I should not get one of these ?
How close can it get to a JCM 800 sound ?

Shawn, I tried one, I am sure with a bit of tweaking you can even nail better than JCM 800 sounds , even with added verb, if needed, They sound pretty damn good to me, Wish I could afford one now but damn way outta my budget, Theres a JCM 800 round at a friends shop I was playing thru recently, the Vintage Modern I think over all is a better amp tone and versititly wise < Best thing Marshall's done in ages, Cept for the handwireds I also cant afford

[Shawn Fate]

Thats good to hear, I live out in the middle of no where, so its hard to try a bunch of amps first hand, I have to rely on crappy mp3's and vids to hear how most amps sound.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Shawn Fate

Thats good to hear, I live out in the middle of no where, so its hard to try a bunch of amps first hand, I have to rely on crappy mp3's and vids to hear how most amps sound.

Well this one is first rate , If I could find somebody who wanted my Mesa Recto , Id trade straight across and I love the Mesa, and normally hate Mesa's . When I played the Marshall, I wasnt even using my best Les Paul, but my number two. Still sounded good, I think I test drove it for over 45 minutes, Surprised they didnt kick me out, I musta been doin somethin right

[Shawn Fate]

If I get one and decide its not for me, I might trade you.
I am a long time Mesa fan...Never had a recto, although I might be trading my vetta for a tremoverb this week.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Shawn Fate

If I get one and decide its not for me, I might trade you.
I am a long time Mesa fan...Never had a recto, although I might be trading my vetta for a tremoverb this week.

LOL Hmm I could do a deal like that Shawn, By the way I dont exactly live in any big city either, 35 miles into the Boondocks up in the Smoky Mountains, Asheville is BIG Town but not that big. Still has most of the good stuff but hard to get many R series guitars around here . We do have two places that deal Marshall, The combo walked into the newer store less than two weeks ago

[LoKi]

I hated the reverb on the Vintage Modern, but the tones were amazing. Its definitely a GREAT sounding amp... my only problem is that there is no footswitching available. The only volume control you get is that on your guitar... which it responds nicely too, but we do a lot of gigs lately without a soundman, so nobody is at the board to boost up solos. 1 trick ponies don't do it for me anymore, but its one helluva trick!

[Shawn Fate]

Originally Posted by LoKi

I hated the reverb on the Vintage Modern, but the tones were amazing. Its definitely a GREAT sounding amp... my only problem is that there is no footswitching available. The only volume control you get is that on your guitar... which it responds nicely too, but we do a lot of gigs lately without a soundman, so nobody is at the board to boost up solos. 1 trick ponies don't do it for me anymore, but its one helluva trick!

I can slam a boost pedal into the front of it, like i did my old 800.
looks like I will have to dust off the pedal board.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by LoKi

I hated the reverb on the Vintage Modern, but the tones were amazing. Its definitely a GREAT sounding amp... my only problem is that there is no footswitching available. The only volume control you get is that on your guitar... which it responds nicely too, but we do a lot of gigs lately without a soundman, so nobody is at the board to boost up solos. 1 trick ponies don't do it for me anymore, but its one helluva trick!

Man , Loki there has gotta be a footswitch, theres a button switch on the face of the amp, I thought or felt , for digital verb, It was pretty damn good myself but I guess thats subjective , Since I am more a blues guy than a rock metal guy, I loved it plugged straight in, IF it dosent have a footswitch option at all, would be one downside But I could swear in all the lit I read one is available and includes on and off reverb, and High/ Low gain settings

Just went to MF, and copied this

Marshall Vintage Modern 2266 Tube Combo Amp Features:

50-Watt valve 2x12" combo
Valve compliment: 4 x ECC83 (12AX7s) in preamp, 2 x KT66 in power amp
Master Volume with two Gain Controls Detail (highs) & Body (lows)
Two footswitchable Dynamic Ranges Low & High
Mid Boost switch
Footswitchable Proprietary digital Plate Reverb
Series FX loop with level switch and bypass
Celestion G12C 25 Greenbacks*
Made in England

*Note: the speakers developed especially for the Limited Edition Jimi Hendrix Super100JH stack

[Shawn Fate]

What do you know about the Marshall 6100 LM 30th Anniversary Head ?
Better option ?

Marshall Amps :: Heritage

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Shawn Fate

What do you know about the Marshall 6100 LM 30th Anniversary Head ?
Better option ?

Marshall Amps :: Heritage

I played thru one of those before, but let me give it to ya from some of my amp tech buddies points, they work well till they go down, Simplier is better, that thing is like a PRE JVM, alot of friggin circuts, when one goes bad, its a hell of alot of work and $$$$$$ JCM 900 early models would be a safer better bet

[LoKi]

The footswitchable dynamic ranges just add or remove gain stages, it doesn't actually go from clean/dirty or what-have-you. Still a 1 channel amp, but a few stompable options I guess. What a great tone though!

[Shawn Fate]

Just had a guy e-mail me about a Splawn...too many amp choices when money is burning a hole in my pocket.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Shawn Fate

Just had a guy e-mail me about a Splawn...too many amp choices when money is burning a hole in my pocket.

Take it Real slow and easy then Shawn, Keep us all posted . Curious what kinda tones are ya after? Crunch, Super Crunch, Flame Broiled extra crispy ?

[Shawn Fate]

yeah , i have been on all day checking out amps.
Every time I'm about to hit the buy button I stop myself.
I need a good mid-high gainer with screaming leads, in the Marshall flavor.
preferably El-34's 50-100 watts head.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Shawn Fate

yeah , i have been on all day checking out amps.
Every time I'm about to hit the buy button I stop myself.
I need a good mid-high gainer with screaming leads, in the Marshall flavor.
preferably El-34's.

Like I said earlier Try a JCM 900 , all the gain of an 800 with a bit more to boot, Two channels, one EQ Individual reverb controls , Indidvual Masters

[Big Mike]

I played one for the first time yesterday. Didn't dig it. I don't get the JCM800 comparisons, unless it's meant towards the 2205/2210 channel switchers.

I thought the 900's sounded better as well.

[Shawn Fate]

Thanks for the heads up about the 900's they seem to be a lot cheaper used as well.

[Big Mike]

Keep a look out for 2205's though. Or even 2204's with a pedal.

i got my 2204 (needs a little work though) in a homemade headshell for 600 bucks and there were vintage tubes in it.

[Fixxxer]

Originally Posted by Big Mike

I played one for the first time yesterday. Didn't dig it. I don't get the JCM800 comparisons, unless it's meant towards the 2205/2210 channel switchers.

I thought the 900's sounded better as well.

I totally agree with Big Mike on this one. I have played three, and kept thinking maybe I am not dialing this in right. Some people love them, I just can't get into them. I want to like that amp, but I prefer the stilleto and other non marshall amps.


For some reason, other people are building a better Marshall, than Marshall

[Blues Power]

i played that amp over at SA and was impressed. i liked the fat clean channel.

it had too much gain for my likings as im more of a chicago blues player

but if i were in the market for an amp it would be a top contenter regardless of the gain


+1 on the reverb issues, but i havent heard a marshall yet with great reverb.
my 900 is the dog in the reverb dept but i still bought it. lol

[LoKi]

Originally Posted by Blues Power

i played that amp over at SA and was impressed. i liked the fat clean channel.

it had too much gain for my likings as im more of a chicago blues player

but if i were in the market for an amp it would be a top contenter regardless of the gain


+1 on the reverb issues, but i havent heard a marshall yet with great reverb.
my 900 is the dog in the reverb dept but i still bought it. lol

I don't think I've ever owned or played a Marshall that had good reverb, a useful effects loop or an actual 'clean' channel...

I've jammed out on the new JVM as well... Not too impressed. Nice tones, but there is a delay in switching, and just WAAAY too much going on in there.

Marshall should stick to what they know. 1 channel master or non-master volume class a/b amps... and then take those amps and add a footswitch for a solo boost. Leave the actual modding to the 'pros'.

[Big John]

Originally Posted by LoKi

....1 channel master or non-master volume class a/b amps... and then take those amps and add a footswitch for a solo boost...

You gotta check out the 900 SL-X amps....foot switchable master volumes and an all-tube signal path. Most players lump them in with the other 900s which is a mistake, because all the other 900's have opamps in the signal path that produce distortion. On top of that, the SL-X's used the same transformers as the 800's. These are real sleepers on the used Marshall market, and I'll bet you my gold filling that they will be sought after someday. Great amps.

[LoKi]

Originally Posted by Big John

You gotta check out the 900 SL-X amps....foot switchable master volumes and an all-tube signal path. Most players lump them in with the other 900s which is a mistake, because all the other 900's have opamps in the signal path that produce distortion. On top of that, the SL-X's used the same transformers as the 800's. These are real sleepers on the used Marshall market, and I'll bet you my gold filling that they will be sought after someday. Great amps.

I used to have one... my only problem with it was that it was a GAIN MONSTER! No clean channel to speak of.

I loved the rock tones, but I couldn't get used to it at higher gain settings... Even with an overdrive it didn't work for me... but now I build my own overdrives and I'm sure I could make something specifically for a 900 that would smoke..

There is one in a shop here for $700. That hurts, since my first one cost me $300... but we'll see.

[Big John]

Try a 12AT7 in slot 1 and/or 2. That'll bring the available gain down quite a bit, maybe 30-40%.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by Big John

Try a 12AT7 in slot 1 and/or 2. That'll bring the available gain down quite a bit, maybe 30-40%.

I like trying 12AT7's then AU's if it really needs a huge gain cut

[Big Mike]

Originally Posted by Fixxxer

I totally agree with Big Mike on this one. I have played three, and kept thinking maybe I am not dialing this in right. Some people love them, I just can't get into them. I want to like that amp, but I prefer the stilleto and other non marshall amps.


For some reason, other people are building a better Marshall, than Marshall

That's why I became a Reinhardt dealer. I wanted to be able to have the best Marshallesque tones available. Bob does it.

[BOBBO]

I would suggest taking a look at Ebay for a nice used JCM800 .. I got mine a few years back pretty cheap and it rocks !!!!

[ReverendJWblues]

Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

Like I said earlier Try a JCM 900 , all the gain of an 800 with a bit more to boot, Two channels, one EQ Individual reverb controls , Indidvual Masters

Now Don I didnt think you cared for the 900s, now Im puzzled you wanna get rid of that Mesa now after I said dont buy it. Hell brother I think your gettin more screwed in the head than the old Rev here. Ive never found any fault in my 900, I really dunno why their cheaper than a 800 but then again I'm pretty stupid. I was lookin at a used 800 beat all to shit head today,and they wanted 1250.00 for it. I quickly took a towel and wiped the stupid off my forehead. My 900 50 watt will shove a stick up a persons ass in a heartbeat. Needless to say I passed on the 800 bought some strings scratched my ass and left. Now I the REV would like a few opinions on the 1960 vintage cab. Oh yeh I'm looking for a power brake too, if anyone has one they dont use. But please dont look for the stupid on my forehead.

[Darkburst]

I liked the 100w Vintage Modern head and cab I tried. Still, my late 2006 Splawn Quickrod does the JCM800 and hot-rodded JCM800 tones, plus it has a really nice clean channel to boot. I think the Vintage Modern series is overpriced for what it is.