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Unread 07-04-2012, 12:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2x12 cab build started, *pics*

me and dad started on the vertical 2x12 cab today =)

here are pics of what we got done.



i plan to run a beveled "picture frame" strip around the front of it about the size of the piece of scrap i sat on the edge to show how it will sit. this will make the handles appear to be in the middle as well



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i plan to bevel the edges on the front frame, as well as the rest of the cab, this will give a nice clean look =)

im going to stain it fairly dark and use a black grill cloth.

ill be using two WGS greenback clones, and my phaez DC 14 to power them. I plan to build a matching head cab for the DC to match the 2x12 cab.
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Vert 2x12? Nice! And double nice with the finger joints.

Also dads seem to always be a good help with woodworking projects. My dad is no luthier or artist, but damn if he didn't make my 2x12 build a whole lot easier because of his general handyman and woodworking knowledge.

Can't wait to see how it turns out!
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Alright!! Good stuff Bling!! Subscribed.
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Stain, dye or french polish?

I saw stain, but what colour tint like? Yellow or reddish warm?

I'm getting into the french polish thing right now
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Stain, dye or french polish?

I saw stain, but what colour tint like? Yellow or reddish warm?

I'm getting into the french polish thing right now
im going with a dark brown/ash color, its hard to describe.... think black/brown/dark grayish.... it will favor the black grill cloth nicely =)

as far as method, im going to go with a stain.
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Vert 2x12? Nice! And double nice with the finger joints.

Also dads seem to always be a good help with woodworking projects. My dad is no luthier or artist, but damn if he didn't make my 2x12 build a whole lot easier because of his general handyman and woodworking knowledge.

Can't wait to see how it turns out!
indeed! dad has built tons of stuff over the years.... he can do quick figuring in his head with measurements.... something im still figuring out lol....

the dove tail joints are something new to both of us though.

i had never used a dove tail jig before this project, but once you get it set up its pretty fool proof if you take your time.
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I like the idea of a stain, but shiny is cool too
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Niiice.Keep the pictures comming.
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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

thanks everyone =D


whats the consensus on adding a support beam between the holes in the baffle?

ive seen folks leave it out, saying its not necessary.... then on the other hand ive heard folks say it should to be there....

i always notice that open backs almost never have it (obviously as its open in the space where it would attach) ...that is unless a place for it to attach is added... rare, but ive seen that too.

i plan to run three boards up the back to enclose the cab, all placed vertical as the cab wills stand, the middle one will be removable (convertible cab)
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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

Nice work, Bling!

Crafty.
Did you use a template for those "blind" dovetails, or did you draw them from scratch???
A hard technique to master (by hand).
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Nice work, Bling!

Crafty.
Did you use a template for those "blind" dovetails, or did you draw them from scratch???
A hard technique to master (by hand).
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i used a dove tail jig



i wasnt about to try them by hand on premium lumber as id end up messing up
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i wasnt about to try them by hand on premium lumber as id end up messing up
Good thinking. Still a very good job.
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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

what do you guys think for the head cab for the DC 14?

go big?

small?
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what do you guys think for the head cab for the DC 14?

go big?

small?
i just asked the wife

" bigger is better"

go big
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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

a little more progress

as the cab will stand when done



mock up of how the back will look

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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

Looking good!

I'd say no middle support, your cabinet wood is thick enough, than thing will be a tank.

Also make the head can match the 2x12 so it fits on top perfectly.
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Yeah I have no center support in my vertical 2x12, thing is so solid there's no vibrations at all.

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i have truly fallen in love with building these things!

and get this, i am starting to be able to read a ruler on the fly!

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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

matmont, seems like that cab is build like a tank. Does it look the same under the other 2 panels? If so that's the reason there are no vibration. It's framed out and as solid as can be.

Bling I think you should do this with yours. Add more wood inside creating a solid frame. Then you won't need the center support. Otherwise you may be risking some vibration.

Who knows though. You may like the vibes! People go both ways when it comes to cabs. I'm sure you've read those threads. Some love that the cab is "lively". Others want nothing to do with a vibrating cab. Again, another preference.
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Yeah, that framing surrounds the whole back panel, it's only there to give the center panel something to attach to in the middle. But I'm sure it helps with stability.

The whole cab is 18mm ply, I don't want any vibration from my cabs.

Bling, your's is coming along nicely, love the dovetails.
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That looks great Bling! I love the dovetails as well.
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The center support performs two functions.

1) Reinforce the baffle board at its weakest point which is between the two speakers. If you're not going to manhandle the cab or run thunderous power, it won't be necessary.

2) Reduce vibration in the rear panel. With an open back cab, this isn't a problem.


Nice job, Bling. It looks great! I build ALL my cabs with dovetail joints. The dovetail jig and circle cutting jig are two of my most valued tools.
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Nice! I just threw one together myself. I used pine for the resonance. It's mostly going to be used for the wet signal in a little W/D/W rig I'm setting up with a Silvertone 1482. I also cut a dato in the center that holds another baffle for better stereo separation.





In an attempt to make it vintage sounding I threw a pair of these '74 CTS alnicos in it.



I still need to buy tolex and grill cloth for. I was leaning towards tweed but it sounds like a PITA so I think I will just use standard tolex and cane style grill cloth.




Your dovetail jig looks very similar to one I picked up recently. It's a '80s Rockwell/Delta 5008 jig. I haven't tried it yet. I used a really crappy clamp on jig when I was doing the dovetails on this. Unfortunately it did a sloppy job which is why I'm going to cover it which is probably for the best anyway since pine is really soft. My old jig going in the trash can. My vintage power tool collection has stuffed my barn to capacity. Believe it or not vintage power tools have as much appeal to woodworkers as vintage tube amps have to guitar players. As most things, they don't make them like they used to. There are forums similar to this one where dudes trade & sell parts and discuss their latest aquisitions and restoration projects. The main difference between vintage woodworking machinery and vintage music gear is most people are not up to speed on their superior quality so machines are still easy to find at yard sale prices. This is both good and bad because it's pretty easy to get carried away. A little cleaning, some new bearings and fresh paint and you can have yourself a cool 60+ year old machine that looks and performs like it rolled off the factory floor last week. I've got several machines from the '30s through the '50s and a few modern items as well.

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My plan is to eventually assemble one complete, fully restored machine then sell of the other remaining one. I think these old bandsaws look really cool and this seemed like a nice easy little restoration project if I ever get time to do it.

Good luck on your build and keep the pics coming!
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Great post riffraff!!! I love old tools! Im only comfortable buying old hand tools though. Can't really get in trouble.

I'd love to restore something like that. Wouldn't know where to begin and the wife already complains about me buying other peoples junk. You're right they're all over a CL and yard sales. Awesome machines you got there!
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a radial arm saw would be nice!
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Re: 2x12 cab build started, *pics*

some more progress

baffle cut (daxmn thats a big ass 2x12 cab!)



baffle painted

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I take full and all credit for the vertical cab idea, even though I was knocked for it at the time! You can thank me in $$$. Or guitars. Or pedals. Or amps. Or 2x12 vertical cabs
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