The new 1 watt Marshall amps..

[AxeBuilder]

Originally Posted by Motorcycle

Haven't had a Marshall for awhile now. I have other amps that give me all I need. But I have been thinking about getting a small Marshall for some time and this seems like it'll fill the bill nicely. It is pricey, and it's not really hand-wired to any great degree, but from what little I've heard it sounds OK and the mini JTM head looks cool as hell. Guess I gotta go play one.

Don't do it unless you're ready to buy it - they are seductive!

[AxeBuilder]

I'm currently running my JTM-1 and JMP-1 in parallel through a 1960A (stereo mode), so they each have their own micro stack side by side. Using a Lehle P-split, I get both amps at once!

[allstar100595]

Hey guys. I, like most people here, thought the price tag made the amp an absolutely terrible buy, and I thought it was just a money grab. However, after seeing very very positive reviews from pretty much every person who bought one, I changed my mind a bit. I finally caved and bought a JMP-1C. It was the best decision I have ever made. I see that no one here has mentioned, IMO, the best feature of the amp.

These 1W heads and combos are able to act as a preamp, and allows you to go into a regular 50, 100, etc. watt amp and use it as a power amp. I kid you not, doing this has given me not only the best tone I've ever played on, by far, but the best tone I've ever heard in person. The ability to have a cranked JMP/Plexi sound pretty much to a T, WITH a master volume, is truly extraordinary. What I don't understand now is someone buying a boutique Marshall clone at a lower wattage, and not buying one of these and virtually any head they want to, to slave. Everyone who's saying these are not worth it should definitely think again.

[FFXIhealer]

Originally Posted by Ed hunter

great minds think alike!

Ah yes, but on the flip side: "Weak minds seldom differ."

[LesterNtele]

[QUOTE=allstar100595;4084320]

These 1W heads and combos are able to act as a preamp, and allows you to go into a regular 50, 100, etc. watt amp and use it as a power amp. What I don't understand now is someone buying a boutique Marshall clone at a lower wattage, and not buying one of these and virtually any head they want to, to slave. QUOTE]

So how, exactly do you do this?
1.Do you send the speaker OUT into the effects return?
2.If so, which ohm jack would you use? Would you use a speaker cable or instrumentr cable?
3. Would you have to set it at the .01 watt rating? If you havent noticed, the overall tone suffers loss on that setting.
4.Lastly, can you still crank the volume without hurting the slave amp?

[JCM900MkIII]

[quote=LesterNtele;4086401]

Originally Posted by allstar100595

These 1W heads and combos are able to act as a preamp, and allows you to go into a regular 50, 100, etc. watt amp and use it as a power amp. What I don't understand now is someone buying a boutique Marshall clone at a lower wattage, and not buying one of these and virtually any head they want to, to slave. QUOTE]

So how, exactly do you do this?
1.Do you send the speaker OUT into the effects return?
2.If so, which ohm jack would you use? Would you use a speaker cable or instrumentr cable?
3. Would you have to set it at the .01 watt rating? If you havent noticed, the overall tone suffers loss on that setting.
4.Lastly, can you still crank the volume without hurting the slave amp?

Speaker out to effects return will probably break something. Just a fair warning.

[blues_man_zep]

800$ id get a used guitar over a 1 watt amp

[LesterNtele]

[quote=JCM900MkIII;4089931]

Originally Posted by LesterNtele

Speaker out to effects return will probably break something. Just a fair warning.

I would think that is obvious.
Just trying to figure out a way to use the preamp of the jtm1 and power it with another amp.

[allstar100595]

This is all perfectly safe to do, many people directly affiliated with Marshall have told me so. What you have to do is:

1. Set the amp to .1 watt mode. This keeps it at a low enough wattage that allows you to run it like this.

2. Use an INSTRUMENT cable (not SPEAKER cable) to go from the speaker out on the 1W head to the FX return on your slaved head.

3. Set the FX DBv to +4. This should be on the back of most amps, and it's a small little screw looking thing, that says either +4 or -10. Set it to +4.

This gives you safe, pure, rocking tone at any volume you want, with the cranked sound you want. It's absolutely incredible to be virtually playing a JMP, JCM, JTM, etc. with the tone everyone knows and loves at any volume.

[Ob Com]

I picked up one of the JTM 1 combo's today.

Living in a flat, 1w and .01w is perfect for me therefore the cost vs wattage equation was not relevant.

Happy to pay £500 for a 1w amp if it sounds great.

Tried it in the shop and knew instantly how wonderful this thing is- no ambivilance at all.

For peeps wanting low wat marshall tones, this thing is very very classy sounding indeed.

Responsive, musical, beautiful compression and fabulous bottom end given the size of the cab.

both 8 and 16 ohm speaker outs to drive a cab.

I can not fault this amp, it is a complete tone monster.

Very happy with it indeed.

[patrickBOOTH]

Originally Posted by allstar100595

This is all perfectly safe to do, many people directly affiliated with Marshall have told me so. What you have to do is:

1. Set the amp to .1 watt mode. This keeps it at a low enough wattage that allows you to run it like this.

2. Use an INSTRUMENT cable (not SPEAKER cable) to go from the speaker out on the 1W head to the FX return on your slaved head.

3. Set the FX DBv to +4. This should be on the back of most amps, and it's a small little screw looking thing, that says either +4 or -10. Set it to +4.

This gives you safe, pure, rocking tone at any volume you want, with the cranked sound you want. It's absolutely incredible to be virtually playing a JMP, JCM, JTM, etc. with the tone everyone knows and loves at any volume.

Isn't that pretty much what Ritchie Blackmore did with the Marshall Majors? Just turns it into a master volume amp.

[trmckn]

Definitely safe to set the Marshall 1-watters to low power mode and into an effects loop (actually, in low power mode, they're closer to 0.02W at this setting.) I do it regularly with the Vintage Modern and JMD:1. It's particularly neat with the JMD:1 because the internal effects still work in this mode, the the JTM-1 is just another pre-amp (a full on tube one in this case) that can be selected from the footswitch loop select.

Here's a clip with the JTM-1 through the JMD:1. When you crank the JMD, it's a hell of a quad EL34 roar.

JTM1JMDPRS - YouTube

JTM1JMDPRS - YouTube

[LesterNtele]

Originally Posted by trmckn

Definitely safe to set the Marshall 1-watters to low power mode and into an effects loop (actually, in low power mode, they're closer to 0.02W at this setting.) I do it regularly with the Vintage Modern and JMD:1. It's particularly neat with the JMD:1 because the internal effects still work in this mode, the the JTM-1 is just another pre-amp (a full on tube one in this case) that can be selected from the footswitch loop select.

Here's a clip with the JTM-1 through the JMD:1. When you crank the JMD, it's a hell of a quad EL34 roar.

Yeah. That doesn't even sound like the JTM1 anymore. Nice tone. I prefer the saggy scooped sound of the JTM1 myself, so I would be looking for a different amp to run it through.

[trmckn]

Originally Posted by LesterNtele

Yeah. That doesn't even sound like the JTM1 anymore. Nice tone. I prefer the saggy scooped sound of the JTM1 myself, so I would be looking for a different amp to run it through.

Yeah...I know what you mean. That's sort of the neat thing about it though.....you can mix and match and get whatever you're looking for. I haven't made a sound clip of it, but my favorite amp to run it through is the 2466. The JTM-1 through 4 KT66's keeps the JTM flavor. Also, when you run the JTM-1 at a lower volume setting, but hit it with a clean boost, and then run it through the power amp of the 2466, it really sounds fantastic.

Using the JTM-1 with a 2466 certainly isn't a low-cost configuration, but if you have several amp heads with loops anyway, the JTM-1 is a great way to augment what you already have.

[Dino Velvet]

Just pulled the trigger and put a deposit on a DSL combo. And now the waiting begins.......

[Jeffguy]

Let us know how you like it!

[fretboarder]

heard my jmp-c yesterday round my mates(havent got a guitar yet) gotta say it sounds pretty damn good.

plenty of punch for a small amp thats only one watt, goes pretty loud for a house and then the drop down power switch is usable still sounds good, plus at lower volumes it still retains the tone.

great little amp perfect for what i want it for.

[LesterNtele]

OK, the big buzz going around is that Bad Cat amps has a product called the "Unleash". It's a small class D amp & load dummy that can take any amp from 1 watt up to 100 watts without coloring the tone.

They are not quite ready yet. John at BC amps told me they are very close and will unleash the Unleash very very soon, Cost? I have heard $299 & $399. Nobody is quite sure yet.

[Dino Velvet]

I was surprised to see a couple of the JCM combos on ebay NIB from dealers. I guess that thing where they were only alloted one of each model was not true.

[jw3571]

I just got my JCM1 head. I love the thing. It's perfect for home use. I probably be selling my Phaez Tarantula. This thing even sounds good clean.

[eaglewolf]

Originally Posted by jw3571

I just got my JCM1 head. I love the thing. It's perfect for home use. I probably be selling my Phaez Tarantula. This thing even sounds good clean.

Sell, the Phaez, huh? That's telling on the tone of the Marshall.

I received my JCM-1H today myself. Haven't had a chance to plug it in - I had a busy day and worked fairly late so maybe another day. Good to hear the tone is good at all levels. If it can do the JCM800-like tone at low volumes I will be quite pleased with it.

I will say the trio (JTM, JMP, JCM) make a nice stack!

David

[jw3571]

Yeah, The Phaez is just too damn loud.

[eaglewolf]

I understand how loud a Phaez can be - the MLP-35 is like that too, at least for playing in the house. It still sounds decent at low volumes, but it really shines when you crank it. Can't do that too often. It was a blast when I took it to a friend's house and we were able to turn it up.

Just for reference, Randy will build a low wattage amp as well as what his website shows. I was discussing a 1W Phaez myself.

However, if the Marshall works for you, then you are there. I'm looking forward to plugging in my JCM.

David

[joshuatree725]

Originally Posted by jw3571

Yeah, The Phaez is just too damn loud.

I use to have 18w Daisycutter which was super loud for home use so I sold it to a Phaez collector up in New England and replaced it with 8w Daisycutter and the volume is now perfect for home use. Phaez with single digit watts should be good for home use and maybe a small gig.

I also received JCM1 head today so I will be using it as a bedroom amp and home recording.

[Joeydego]

Originally Posted by Dino Velvet

Waiting for the other models to come out. I want more knobs for my $800.

I've found the less knobs on a Marshall, the better they sound. Just my experience.

[Xavier_32]

I know a guy that exclusively plays out of a 3w Silvertone 1448 amp-in-case. Is it loud enough to be heard over a drummer in a full bar? Hell no. That thing is barely loud enough to be heard over a room full of people talking at indoor volume. But mic'd up and shot out through the PA, I don't know anyone that can get even close to achieving such ridiculous live tone. Very Jack White.

THAT's what you'd pay $800 for a 1w amp for. That broken up, pushed to the limit sound that only a small, low-wattage amp can get. These just happen to also sound like Marshalls.

[Ob Com]

Originally Posted by Joeydego

I've found the less knobs on a Marshall, the better they sound. Just my experience.

agree,I continue to be amazed by the sounds in the JTM1.

[LesterNtele]

Originally Posted by Ob Com

agree,I continue to be amazed by the sounds in the JTM1.

Agreed, agree.
This is THE best sounding amp I have ever played. Period.

[eaglewolf]

Originally Posted by LesterNtele

Agreed, agree.
This is THE best sounding amp I have ever played. Period.

I love mine too, but I don't think it beat out the JTM45 for tone, which is the best sounding amp I've ever played. However, the big amp required being so loud as to be unusable for my application. In that sense the JTM-1 pulled ahead often 45.

David

[Classicplayer]

Would the JTM 1 get one in the range of Jimmy Page tones? I had been thinking that the JCM1 would be my fav of the series, but where I'm drawn to
Page's style and overall tone, the JCM 1 may not do it.


Classicplayer