ECC83, who has the best?

[lp_junkie]

my current amp is a Marshall VS100, it has 1 ECC83 in the preamp, I am looking at changing it out since it has been in there forever (since 1997).
who makes the best ones?

I have an Engle tube preamp that needs new ones as well so I figure I might as well get them all now.

[Bowhunterwt]

I installed a set of JJ's in mine Marshall the beast came to life after the swap. I seem to have more of the Marshall crunch and the tone was greatly improve~!!!

[overdriver]

^ JJ IMO or mullard NOS if ya can find any resonable. IMO the new reissue mullard are not any better than the JJs. just cost more. Do you know of this vendor www.kcanostubes.com good place.

I shop at www.thetubestore.com only because I am in Canada

[overdriver]

Should have said you can find NOS mullard etc. but man cost way too much for the average Joe

[ledfree]

All depends on what flavour you want.
Don't worry, I am going through the same crisis myself at the moment.

[coldsteal2]

Originally Posted by overdriver

Should have said you can find NOS mullard etc. but man cost way too much for the average Joe

NOS tubes cost more than alot of amps

[lp_junkie]

I read awhile back that modern designs were built around current production tubes so putting NOS tubes might be a waste of money.

I used to use GT's for preamp tubes in my 2204s, but it has been over 15 years since I last bought tubes.

[lexluthier]

JJ's have nice gain but are kind of dark sounding (good to mellow out bright amps). Shuguang makes a good sounding 12ax7 and they are cheap and reliable.
I would stay away from EI Yugo 12ax7's, they are prone to being microphonic, though they do have nice tone.

If I do use a NOS preamp tube like an old Mullard, I'll put it in the V1 position and use new production tubes in the other positions.

[drewbertca]

I use JJ 12ax7s and JJ El84's When I have cash My Windsor is getting some "Winged C" EL34s and My ycv40 has Fender/Groove Tubes 6L6s in her.....

[JW123]

If you have the cash a NOS Tesla Ecc83 would probably sound great in there.

If you can find one it might be 100-300 dollars.

[coldsteal2]

Did you know that the JJ ECC83 is built to the
exact specs as the Tesla ECC83?

[JW123]

I didnt know that Coldsteal.

I need a couple of tubes to try in my Roadster, maybe I'll try a couple of JJs. If I dont like them they would make good spares.

Do you know what an alternate to a Mullard 12at7/CV4024 would be out of curiousity?

A buddy keeps telling me to put a Tesla in my V1 and a Mullard in the V2 and V3 slots.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by JW123

I didnt know that Coldsteal.

I need a couple of tubes to try in my Roadster, maybe I'll try a couple of JJs. If I dont like them they would make good spares.

Do you know what an alternate to a Mullard 12at7/CV4024 would be out of curiousity?

A buddy keeps telling me to put a Tesla in my V1 and a Mullard in the V2 and V3 slots.

You mean what JJ ? that would be an ECC81......... also I find the Electro Harmonics 12aT7wc to be a very good new production tube.

[Steve Gambrell]

Well, I'm new here, don't want to butt in, but JJ's have been my tube of choice for a couple of years. They sound OK, they don't fail (often), and they're not expensive. And nowadays, NOS tubes are too easy to fake.

[coldsteal2]

Originally Posted by JW123

I didnt know that Coldsteal.

I need a couple of tubes to try in my Roadster, maybe I'll try a couple of JJs. If I dont like them they would make good spares.

Do you know what an alternate to a Mullard 12at7/CV4024 would be out of curiousity?

A buddy keeps telling me to put a Tesla in my V1 and a Mullard in the V2 and V3 slots.

I think the Electro Harmonix 12AT7 is pretty close

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by coldsteal2

I think the Electro Harmonix 12AT7 is pretty close

Yeah the EH 12at7wc are good not any better IMO and cost a few buck more though.