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Unread 01-08-2012, 01:09 AM   #4441 (permalink)
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Good stuff 57
Just had a jam with the DC, hot damn that is one killer little amp!!! The new cab helps, it sounds bigger than a lot of 412s.
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Unread 01-08-2012, 01:23 AM   #4442 (permalink)
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Just had a jam with the DC, hot damn that is one killer little amp!!! The new cab helps, it sounds bigger than a lot of 412s.
Do you play with the gain up? How do you set the rest of the controls?
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I generally play with the gain on 4-5, bass and treble on 5-6 and the mids at 5-7, I find the mids have as much control on the gain as the gain does.
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Good stuff - you should put them all in one Classic Rock - SIBLY clip,
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Here are a few clips with my SIBLY. This is just recorded in the room with my Ipad2 and no processing at all. I am not a great player but this might give you an idea of some tones.

Slow_Zep.MOV - YouTube


Allmans.MOV - YouTube


Some Zep - YouTube


Sabbath.mov - YouTube


2112.mov - YouTube
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Good stuff - you should put them all in one Classic Rock - SIBLY clip,
I'll try to figure out how to do that. Those were the first videos I ever made. I just used the camera on my Ipad which is not very high quality.
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thanks man! I was bummed when i checked the footage and realized that part didn't get filmed!
I really enjoyed that Alex! Thanks
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Here are a few clips with my SIBLY. This is just recorded in the room with my Ipad2 and no processing at all. I am not a great player but this might give you an idea of some tones.

Slow_Zep.MOV - YouTube


Allmans.MOV - YouTube


Some Zep - YouTube


Sabbath.mov - YouTube


2112.mov - YouTube
Is that a 6v6 or EL84 SIBLY? Sounds great by the way!
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El-84, and Thanks
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I really enjoyed that Alex! Thanks
thanks man. glad you liked it. just trying to show phaez doing some cleaner stuff! we all know they can bring the dirt!
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Just a quick question; the Phaez SIBLY amp is still a non PCB amp right?
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Just a quick question; the Phaez SIBLY amp is still a non PCB amp right?
My Dragonfly has a PCB. Don't know about the Sibly.
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Here are a few clips with my SIBLY. This is just recorded in the room with my Ipad2 and no processing at all. I am not a great player but this might give you an idea of some tones.
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Sounds fantastic. What cab/speakers? Was that using a boost on the Sabbath clip?
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Just a quick question; the Phaez SIBLY amp is still a non PCB amp right?
I believe it is a combination of point to point, and PCB, something Randy calls "3D Point TO Point". But you could ask Randy to be sure.

Both of my Phaez amps have a PCB. It's high quality.
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Just a quick question; the Phaez SIBLY amp is still a non PCB amp right?
How do you define a PCB amp?

If a builder uses a PC board for the power supply, and a turret board for most of the rest, what would you call that?

Do you feel that all PC boards are evil?

If some of the pre-amp tubes are mounted on the board with the power supply, how would that make you feel, and why?
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How do you define a PCB amp?

If a builder uses a PC board for the power supply, and a turret board for most of the rest, what would you call that?

Do you feel that all PC boards are evil?

If some of the pre-amp tubes are mounted on the board with the power supply, how would that make you feel, and why?

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Point-to-Point vs. Printed Circuit Boards « Soldano Custom Amplification


In the early days before circuit boards were designed, technicians relied on various “anchor points” to connect wires together. Primitive layouts consisted of terminal strips screwed to the chassis or even pieces of cardboard fitted with brass eyelets. Components and wiring were then soldered, point-to-point, to these terminals or eyelets to create the circuit. As time went on, clever technicians figured they could etch the wiring patterns into copper foil laminated to a strong and rigid phenolic board. The components could then be soldered directly to these copper “traces.” This was the beginning of modern printed circuit (PC) boards. In modern boards, epoxy reinforced glass fiber replaces phenolic and more than one layer of copper is now possible. When using PC boards, precise part placement and consistent wiring is guaranteed.

I feel that point-to-point wiring is still very useful when designing an amplifier prototype or building a custom one-of-a-kind amp. It’s quicker, easier, and cheaper to do than a one-off printed circuit board and it’s generally easier to make circuit modifications when using this method. Well done point-to-point wiring is also very nice to look at—if you’ve ever seen the inside an early Hiwatt, you’ll know what I mean.

In my opinion, however, it is far more cost effective and less labor intensive to use PC technology in a production environment. To the consumer, this means a better amp for less money. I believe that a guitar amp with well designed circuit boards is easier to work with, is far more consistent and reliable, and is more rugged mechanically than a point-to-point wired guitar amp. Another advantage is that, since the circuitry is clearly mapped out on the board, PC boards are also quicker and easier to service.

One should also bear in mind that there is absolutely no sonic difference between point-to-point and printed circuit board wiring. Detractors of PC boards have argued that they are less reliable due to cracked solder joints or failure prone to burned traces—neither of these complaints are ever an issue with a properly designed board.
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I'd bet that the stock SIBLY is PCB. I think Randy'll do ptp if you really want, but ya might want to think about what you really want.
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I emailed Randy earlier, his response is below. I don't have a beef with PC boards, I was just curious. I am well aware that a lot of high end amps use them, and I don't "feel" one way or the other about them as long as they are well designed.

"There are some boards used but even with the boards it is still point to point. The board I'd be using with the new SIBLY will be my latest board. The power supply and maintenance stuff is on the board, but is still point to point, the board just offering a base and eyelets (through-holes) to connect to. The audio path won't be PCB in a PHAEZ amp."
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i have no idea whats in my pair. never looked, never cared.

they sound too good for it to matter to me.
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Different amp but Ill bet the board is similar.

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I'd bet that the stock SIBLY is PCB. I think Randy'll do ptp if you really want, but ya might want to think about what you really want.
Randy uses a high bred board only the power section has traces ...the rest of the boards are anchor points no traces...as far as tube sockets on the boards he did in the past as of now none ...is it necessary to do pure PTP" no" a well designed board with eyelets is a modified PTP and when done right is no different....but if you asked Randy what he thinks he will tell you it is the final build process ,if he did feel his board was flawed he would go back to the PTP rats nest wiring...he puts a lot of time and work in designing his boards
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i have no idea whats in my pair. never looked, never cared.

they sound too good for it to matter to me.
Yours are old school PTP.
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Yours are old school PTP.
I love how your always telling him what he's got!
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Sounds fantastic. What cab/speakers? Was that using a boost on the Sabbath clip?
Thanks, all those clips were just plugged straight in with my R7 Goldtop. I probably had the gain toggle on for that one. My Goldtop has WCR Crossroads pickups and the cab is a Jenkins oversized 1x12 with an old Celestion G-1265.
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Thanks, all those clips were just plugged straight in with my R7 Goldtop. I probably had the gain toggle on for that one. My Goldtop has WCR Crossroads pickups and the cab is a Jenkins oversized 1x12 with an old Celestion G-1265.
Awesome, thanks. I was concerned about the Sibly being able to do higher gain, but it sounds like it should be fine for what I'm after. Going to have to pick one of these up sooner or later
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Awesome, thanks. I was concerned about the Sibly being able to do higher gain, but it sounds like it should be fine for what I'm after. Going to have to pick one of these up sooner or later
plenty of gain! i was doing van halen stuff just now with the gain on half!
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Yours are old school PTP.
thank you rich
i figured you would know.
i'm glad they are like me
"old school"

and thanks for the high quality work you did for me and the shirley here at the house.
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I love how your always telling him what he's got!
thats cuz rich is my amp guy.
he knows more about my stuff than i do for sure.
kind of a handy guy to have around
i've decided to keep him
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Awesome, thanks. I was concerned about the Sibly being able to do higher gain, but it sounds like it should be fine for what I'm after. Going to have to pick one of these up sooner or later
if possible , i would suggest sooner.
because the sooner you get your 1st 1.
the sooner youll order your 2nd
oh, it's going to happen
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if possible , i would suggest sooner.
because the sooner you get your 1st 1.
the sooner youll order your 2nd
oh, it's going to happen
It'll happen alright!
The bad part for me is that I can't afford my third yet
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