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Old 05-29-2010, 09:57 PM   #1
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Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

I've seen on a couple of episodes of Greatest Guitarist on BBC2, that Angus's SG's have grey duct tape on them? I've seen it on the back previously, but tonight it was on the front as well? Any ideas? (Performance from '78-80)
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

running repairs, usually.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

Sweat. Major sweat. water logging sweat. The tape could help keep some sweat off of the internals and some parts of the wood body, that got nevertheless water logged.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

It's part of how he gets his tone.


So much for thinning nitro giving tone if you have duct tape on your guitar.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

Yeah, there are numerous stories about how the man is a sweat hog. And I don't mean one of these guys:

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Yeah, there are numerous stories about how the man is a sweat hog. And I don't mean one of these guys:



Seriously though, he DOES sweat A LOT! I saw one of his guitars awhile back, and the metal parts (screws, bridge posts, etc) were almost completely rusted away! Not to mention, the guitars themselves are like sponges, and absorb the brunt of it.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

I really think it's because of the sweat...
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:57 AM   #9
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

He used to tape the patch cord so it would be directed back and not create a "big loop" right at the guitar. Also, the rodies used to let the slack out onto the stage as Angus would run around, and then pull it back in as it became slack. So by taping it on the guitar it would limit the tension put on the input jack as the pulled it back in (in the event they pulled to hard)

The only other time he used duct tape, was on one of his first guitars, and that was to hold the toggle switch in the treble position. at least those are the only reasons I know for the Duct tape.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

This was one of the ones I was thinking of
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

Here is another one
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

..... and here is a pic of Angus doing his famous " duct walk " :

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Old 07-15-2010, 02:56 AM   #13
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

I dont see how the duct tape would have helped with sweat...? Like repell it off the guitar you mean, acting like a "tape condom"?

I dont think so, but I could be wrong. If it aint messing anything up on stage, I don't think they were too concerned about it. If the guitar got the rots, they would cross that bridge when they got there. I am sticking with my reasonings
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

I am will find you a picture with teh toggle taped, cant find it now, and its getting late.... Time to dream of front row and being showered with Angus sweat
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

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I dont see how the duct tape would have helped with sweat...? Like repell it off the guitar you mean, acting like a "tape condom"?

I dont think so, but I could be wrong. If it aint messing anything up on stage, I don't think they were too concerned about it. If the guitar got the rots, they would cross that bridge when they got there. I am sticking with my reasonings
I could be wrong too, as I don't recall where (and if) I read it.
I think they were putting large amounts of tape on the back, over the control cavity box, to prevent sweat from entering such box.
I know for sure (this I read on Jaydee's article on Angus' guitar) that the roadies had (and now have) to literally dry the guitar(s) after the show using a hair drier, because of the massive amount of wet all over it. Control cavities, pickup cavities, wood itself would be soaking wet and the wood would rot away (so as metal parts) immediately.

But I do welcome any other possibility, as I am always re-searching and good info is always welcome for me
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

From the photos, the tape is securing the guitar's input jack and cable plug together. Perhaps he was having a problem with the 1/4" plug coming out of the jack, so they just taped it down.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

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I could be wrong too, as I don't recall where (and if) I read it.
I think they were putting large amounts of tape on the back, over the control cavity box, to prevent sweat from entering such box.
I know for sure (this I read on Jaydee's article on Angus' guitar) that the roadies had (and now have) to literally dry the guitar(s) after the show using a hair drier, because of the massive amount of wet all over it. Control cavities, pickup cavities, wood itself would be soaking wet and the wood would rot away (so as metal parts) immediately.

But I do welcome any other possibility, as I am always re-searching and good info is always welcome for me
The tape on the control cavity is an intersting one, I could definately see that being useful. I have never seen a photo of that though, does anyone out there have one?

I did know that the roadies/guitar tech, have to physically dry the guitar by any means necessary after the show (due to sweat and bodily fluids). That has also been explained why he takes 6-10 guitars on tour with him, not because of what he's "in the mood for", but they (techs) are often working on them. Read lots about it, but like i said, havent seen to many pics other than the ones of the patch cord and the toggle switch.

good thread guys
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

I like this thread too. No foolish arguing, just listening to each other. The way it should be.

BTW Pancake, I found images of the control cavity (on the back) duct taped. Plenty of them on the 1980 concert movie (Let There Be Rock) in Paris. I am trying to freeze a decent frame for us all to see.

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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

maybe the way he wings around his guitar, they were worried about the wireless unit coming apart? Not coming out of the jack, but physically coming apart. I think I read he was one of the first guys to go wireless.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

The tape was pre-wireless, but I can see where you are coming from. Funny you should mention him being one of the first guys to go wireless, It's almost like they made it specifically for him. Who else is runnign 23 miles at a 1 hour show !

Here's Angus writing in to a company,

"Dear patch cord company,

Could you please invent a device that allows me to run for an hour non-stop while a flail my body around and jump off 12 foot stacks with out gettign tangled up in my patch cord? I have gotten pretty used to it by now, and have come up with a few tricks to limit me from gettign tangled in it, minus when I spin on my back. but, my singer Bon just cant seem to stay away from the thing. Between dodging Cliff swinging the bass and Phil flicking boogers at me, I need something that allows me to do my job. Anything is better than my current set-up of a 150 ft cord.

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The tape was pre-wireless, but I can see where you are coming from. Funny you should mention him being one of the first guys to go wireless, It's almost like they made it specifically for him. Who else is runnign 23 miles at a 1 hour show !

Here's Angus writing in to a company,

"Dear patch cord company,

Could you please invent a device that allows me to run for an hour non-stop while a flail my body around and jump off 12 foot stacks with out gettign tangled up in my patch cord? I have gotten pretty used to it by now, and have come up with a few tricks to limit me from gettign tangled in it, minus when I spin on my back. but, my singer Bon just cant seem to stay away from the thing. Between dodging Cliff swinging the bass and Phil flicking boogers at me, I need something that allows me to do my job. Anything is better than my current set-up of a 150 ft cord.

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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

Because he saw Mark Farner with scotch tape on his in 1971?
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From the photos, the tape is securing the guitar's input jack and cable plug together. Perhaps he was having a problem with the 1/4" plug coming out of the jack, so they just taped it down.
Agreed...that's what it looks like.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

I buy into the sweat argument, as I remember seeing pictures where there was duct tape patched around the pickups (sans covers) so that the moisture could not easily make its way down into the coil wire.
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Sweat. Major sweat. water logging sweat. The tape could help keep some sweat off of the internals and some parts of the wood body, that got nevertheless water logged.
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

Just found something I had already dug out:

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In the late 70’s I had my first workshop tucked around the back of a garage. It wasn’t the best location but at the time
it really didn’t matter, I was doing something that I had only dreamed of. A few guitar repairs were coming my way
to start the ball rolling, along with the occasional order for a custom instrument. Around that time one of the road crew
from AC/DC turned up with one of Angus Youngs Gibson SG’s. It was in a bit of a state to say the least, but the main
problem it had was a broken truss rod. Someone in Australia had previously attempted to repair it but without success.

I removed the fretboard so I could see what was going on and I discovered that
the fixed end of the truss rod had been damaged by excessive use of a brazing
torch, where the wood surrounding the truss rod had been charred. Consequently
the rod could not take the tension anymore and was near to total collapse.
I rebuilt the Inside of the neck with new timber (Mahogany) and the final repair was
as good as new. That guitar was a Walnut colour with an aged cream double sided
pick guard.
This repair obviously went down well because it wasn’t long before I had another to
contend with. This time it was electrical and mechanical, whereby the bridge,
tail stock, pots and the selector switch were completely solid and no amount of
lubricant would free them up. The pick-ups were also the victims of the dreaded
‘Angus sweat’ which must be like acid because it ate through the coils. All the
electrics and bridge were changed, and the pick-ups rewound. This time they were
set in a two pack resin so it couldn’t happen again. I also had to change the pole
piece screws as these had rusted to nothing. I replaced them with socket cap screws,
which are visible on the old posters of Angus.
It didn’t stop there. The next was a body repair where the whole of the control area
Had been eaten away by the ‘Angus sweat’, and the odd knock clinched it to make it
unusable. This time it wasn’t worth repairing so I made a new one neck and all,
including the lightning flash inlays, again in the Walnut finish. The only original thing
left on the guitar was the head face with the Gibson logo. The constant appearance
of the crew members with yet more SG’s for servicing or pick-up rewinds led to the
suggestion of making a guitar for Angus. In the midst of all this Angus was not aware
of his pick-ups being rewound. The road crew thought it would be better if he didn’t
know, in case he didn’t like the idea. Anyway, the thought of making a guitar for Angus
gave me a real buzz. That instrument was finished in time for the Donnington festival
when the Slade boys were supporting. That was the first time I had ever met Angus
and Malcolm, they were really nice guys. The best thing of all was to see that Angus
was so pleased with the guitar that he just went straight out on stage in front of
thousands of people and played the whole gig with that guitar with no fuss
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Re: Why the duct tape on Angus SG's from late 70's?

By the way,
I "found out" why Angus had his SG taped in the late '70s.
It was specifically around from August 1977 onward, for one or two years.

The Schaffer-Vega is the reason/answer.
Angus had a wireless unit - which immensely changed his sound, too - and the transmitter was fitted in the guitar control cavity for a time.
The guitar cable would come out directly from the cavity. All around it was taped.
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By the way,
I "found out" why Angus had his SG taped in the late '70s.
It was specifically around from August 1977 onward, for one or two years.

The Schaffer-Vega is the reason/answer.
Angus had a wireless unit - which immensely changed his sound, too - and the transmitter was fitted in the guitar control cavity for a time.
The guitar cable would come out directly from the cavity. All around it was taped.
Wait. Wait. How did they actually get such a big transmitter into a small cavity box ???
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