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Old 08-02-2009, 07:05 PM   #1
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1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Is a Gibson 1960 Les Paul Classic considered a "reissue"???
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:09 PM   #2
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

No.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:12 PM   #3
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

But they say 1960 on the pickguard???




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Old 08-02-2009, 07:12 PM   #4
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

No. Reissues are custom shop guitars built like a specific model, example, the 1959 les paul standard reissue. Les Paul Classic is just a generally inspired by (what was it, 80s LPs?)
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:22 PM   #5
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Were they even making Les Pauls in 1960? Wasn't that when they came out with the SG/Les Paul, or "the Paul"?
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:25 PM   #6
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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Were they even making Les Pauls in 1960? Wasn't that when they came out with the SG/Les Paul, or "the Paul"?
'60 was the last year for the single cut Les Paul.. Some single cut Customs were made in '61.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:26 PM   #7
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

1960 was the last year for the Les Paul as we know and love it. The 'Classic' is just a regular, run of the mill production-line guitar. I have two, and they are very nice guitars, but are nothing extraordinary.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:37 PM   #8
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

1960 is on the pickguard as bait to get the uninformed to shell out cash for it.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:43 PM   #9
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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1960 is on the pickguard as bait to get the uninformed to shell out cash for it.
So $ 4800. is too much?
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:44 PM   #10
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

I'm middle-aged, poor & white, but i love this guitar.............



One piece Honduras mahogany body



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Graphtech saddles & Historic lightweight aluminum tailpiece.



Duncans SH-5 Custom, bridge & 59' neck.


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Old 08-02-2009, 07:45 PM   #11
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

The Classic, and Classic Plus, were the forerunners of the
Custom Shop Historic Reissues. They did not have the same
construction as the Historic Reissues, as seen below, they
are short tenon guitars.






The 1960's were called R6, and would have R6 in the pickup
cavity. The Custom Shop Historic Reissue R6 was a Reissue
of the 1956 Les Paul. The Custom Shop Historic Reissue R0
would have LPR0, and the paint code in the pickup cavity.
Both were usually hand written in ball point pen , and would
have a long tenon. The Custom Shop did not make any R0's
in 1993, and as far as I can tell only made one R0 in 1994,
the one pictured in the Sales Brochure. They did make a few
R0's in 1995.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:11 PM   #12
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Axe- for a run of the mill Classic absolutely way too much, the Classic Plus or Premium Plus maybe but still on the high end of things........
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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Axe- for a run of the mill Classic absolutely way too much, the Classic Plus or Premium Plus maybe but still on the high end of things........
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I wouldn't pay much over $2800. for a R8.
Here is my 04 Classic. under $1400. New.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:17 PM   #14
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Gotcha, but you got to watch them Fleabay sellers, I've seen them for more than they are worth.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:46 AM   #15
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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The Classic, and Classic Plus, were the forerunners of the
Custom Shop Historic Reissues. They did not have the same
construction as the Historic Reissues, as seen below, they
are short tenon guitars.






The 1960's were called R6, and would have R6 in the pickup
cavity. The Custom Shop Historic Reissue R6 was a Reissue
of the 1956 Les Paul. The Custom Shop Historic Reissue R0
would have LPR0, and the paint code in the pickup cavity.
Both were usually hand written in ball point pen , and would
have a long tenon. The Custom Shop did not make any R0's
in 1993, and as far as I can tell only made one R0 in 1994,
the one pictured in the Sales Brochure. They did make a few
R0's in 1995.
Hey D-gold, can we see some frontal pic's of the whole guitars???? What i can see is amazing.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:01 AM   #16
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Actually they are 1960 reissues, but not the sense that the forums tend to think of 1960 reissues! It was Ribloff's idea of a production model reissue that could be sold more cheaply than the traditional reissue line.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:13 AM   #17
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

The early ones (1990-1992) are really nice. They have a short tenon, but otherwise are every bit as nice as a Historic IMO. I've had several over the years and I still have a 1991 model. I used to like the thin necks, but I've really become accustomed to the thick necked Historics so this one doesn't see all that much action any more.

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Old 08-03-2009, 09:16 AM   #18
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

The 1991-mid 1993 reissues (preHistorics) took on most of the more accurate features of the Classic. That is, more accurate than the 1983-1990 preHistorics.
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:57 PM   #19
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

I love my 1990 Classic. The only thing I don't like about it that really doesn't matter from a player's perspective - and a player is what I am as I will never afford to collect - is that it's from the first run with round-edged fretboard inlays. Also the issue of the neck pickup cavity not being routed deep enough annoyed me for a while since the pickup sat badly slanted in there, but that was easily fixed with some elbow grease.

I think it's sad what Gibson made of the Classic after 1993. The green inlays weren't all that bad on all the newer ones, but replacing the ABR-1 bridge with a Nashville, thickening the only truly slim neck Gibson had throughout the period and making the top carve less pronounced were all terrible moves as far as I'm concerned.

Here's mine, on the right:
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Old 08-03-2009, 03:13 PM   #20
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.







Mine is a 1960 Classic, I believe from 90/91.. Love it! Really love it! It's relic'd and has poop load of character because of it IMO. I love it! Pickguard does say 1960 on it, and it says classic on the headstock like above said.

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Old 08-04-2009, 07:03 PM   #21
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

I had the first year they came out.
It was my first LP, couldn't get used to the thin neck.
And I didn't like the mismatched(diff. color) top.

Sold it for $100 more than I paid and bought an '00 R9
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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Mine is a 1960 Classic, I believe from 90/91.. Love it! Really love it! It's relic'd and has poop load of character because of it IMO. I love it! Pickguard does say 1960 on it, and it says classic on the headstock like above said.

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I also have a 91 1960 classic. It is just like yours except the whole guitar body(back and back of neck) is painted gold.

I have played Historics and Reissues and my LP is as good or better than what Gibson is offering now.

As a matter of fact other people who play my classic are astonished at how good it plays and how good it sounds.
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

While were on the subject of reissued 1960"s I just purchased one. Model LPCSHSNM ser. 080649. Is this the real deal? Did I go down in flmes or am I flying high? I gave the guy 1550.00 and its emaculate....Some one let me know.......Don
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

any pics?
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

I'll try and get some posted.. thanks
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

The Classic, and Classic Plus, were the forerunners of the
Custom Shop Historic Reissues. They did not have the same
construction as the Historic Reissues, as seen below, they
are short tenon guitars.




You are right about the short tenon, except that the picture you posted is of an actual 1960 Reissue (and not of a classic) aka R6 or LPR6, which was renamed R0 or LPR0 upon the official inception of the Custom-Art-Historic Division in 1993. In 1992, an R6 was considered as part of the Historic Collection (as opposed to Division).
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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Is a Gibson 1960 Les Paul Classic considered a "reissue"???
I have one, and.....no.
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

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While were on the subject of reissued 1960"s I just purchased one. Model LPCSHSNM ser. 080649. Is this the real deal? Did I go down in flmes or am I flying high? I gave the guy 1550.00 and its emaculate....Some one let me know.......Don
That is a 2008 Classic, I believe.
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

what's the difference between historics and reissues? what you guys call R8, R9, R0 etc... are historics or reissues?
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Re: 1960 Gibson Les Paul Classic.

Not all reissues are Historics, but all Historics are reissues. All Historics are Custom shop guitars, but not all Custom shop guitars are Historics.
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