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Old 06-13-2013, 10:38 PM   #1
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U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/wo...obal-home&_r=0

WASHINGTON The Obama administration, concluding that the troops of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria have used chemical weapons against rebel forces in his countrys civil war, has decided to begin supplying the rebels for the first time with small arms and ammunition, according to American officials.

The officials held out the possibility that the assistance, coordinated by the Central Intelligence Agency, could include antitank weapons, but they said that for now supplying the antiaircraft weapons that rebel commanders have said they sorely need is not under consideration.

Supplying weapons to the rebels has been a long-sought goal of advocates of a more aggressive American response to the Syrian civil war. A proposal made last year by David H. Petraeus, then the director of the C.I.A., and backed by the State Department and the Pentagon to supply weapons was rejected by the White House because of President Obamas deep reluctance to be drawn into another war in the Middle East.

But even with the decision to supply lethal aid, the Obama administration remains deeply divided about whether to take more forceful action to try to quell the fighting, which has killed more than 90,000 people over more than two years. Many in the American government believe that the military balance has tilted so far against the rebels in recent months that American shipments of arms to select groups may be too little, too late.

Some senior State Department officials have been pushing for a more aggressive military response, including airstrikes to hit the primary landing strips in Syria that the Assad government uses to launch the chemical weapons attacks, ferry troops around the country and receive shipments of arms from Iran.

But White House officials remain wary, and on Thursday Benjamin J. Rhodes, one of Mr. Obamas top foreign policy advisers, all but ruled out the imposition of a no-fly zone and indicated that no decision had been made on other military actions.
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.. So our intelligence agencies have "confirmed" this use of WMD's ...
.. ya know .. this seems familiar ..

.. My question is .. who are these people we are going to arm up .. and why are they any better than Assad ? .. if they gain control there will be mass killings just as there were in Iraq .. this is a religious civil war that is none of our business .. I am sorry for those being killed .. but this will end badly no matter what the US does.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:45 PM   #2
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

They said the red line has been crossed. What this means is a guess so far, but this countries appetite for another war is thin.

I would guess we'd employ drones, declare a no fly zone, maybe cut Assad loose using cruise missiles. No boots on the ground would be my guess.

And then we'd hope to have leverage with what central committee emerges from the rebel groups.
If not, we push for UN demarcation lines that could effectively cut the country in two and render it a non issue in the region for a long time to come.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:49 PM   #3
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

I'm wondering what the Russians are going to do?
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:49 PM   #4
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

I guess the question is "what would we stand to gain from aiding the rebels?" And that's a genuine question as I really haven't been following what's been happening in Syria. The extent of my knowledge is that sh*t's real bad.
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

where's that douche Neo? he'd sho nuff tell us how it is!
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:05 PM   #6
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.. This is going to be part proxy war with Iran among others .. I would suspect
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

Yeah, we can afford another war half way around the world, those are money makers.
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What, they found some old broken $hit that doesnt work to send away?
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

Iran and Hezbollah are all in. Saudi needs to put their big boy pants on, stop hiding, step up and play with the big boys.
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

When does this **** ever end well?
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

I'm sure this decision will end well. Decisions like this have always ended well in the past.

Oh, wait....
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Hezbollah, Al Queda, Russia, Iran, Israel, etc. This might get ugly.
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:15 AM   #15
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Hezbollah, Al Queda, Russia, Iran, Israel, etc. This might get ugly.
As well, Turkey, Quatar, Saudi Arabia, Muslim Brotherhood, These are all players actively suppurting the Al Qaeda rebels.

The Salafi Wahhabis are disgusting/// They are intent on implementing their version of Sharia and completely terrorizing and the population.

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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

Too bad the US can't realize (or admit, since they do realize it) that there are no good guys in this situation and just wash their hands of it.
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

If it's accurate, it's a bad mistake.
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I dunno... Did the defense industry create some new goodies that need battlefield testing?
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I'm wondering what the Russians are going to do?
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

we need to stay the hell out of other peoples business.

In the US they try to take your guns, then they wanna give guns to others...hypocrite much? ya fookin bastards

the whole thing is so f**ked

Jeezy Cries when are we going to stop wasting our money on other peoples BS?
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Has Obama heard about this?
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are they supposed to be Muslim? You can't eat blood, it's very forbidden. You're also not supposed to desecrate the dead.

Crazy f**ks!
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Mr. Obamas top foreign policy advisers, all but ruled out the imposition of a no-fly zone and indicated that no decision had been made on other military actions.

Here we go again.

Syria Civil War: US to Set up No-Fly Zone to Monitor Arms Delivery to Rebels - IBTimes UK
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

I'd be a little more comfortable if we had a clue about whom we were actually arming. There are no good guys in this equation (innocent civilians were pushed out of the equation by the islamo-facists a while ago).

This is the type of decision - made under duress and for political reasons (a la wag the dog) - that comes back to bite us in the ass. Those weapons will be turned on us and our interests as soon as practicable.
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Re: U.S. Is Said to Plan to Send Weapons to Syrian Rebels

Talking about things like this not ending well, I guess this country has forgotten the lessons given to it between 1959 and 1975. Next will be a "police action", then we are all in... again.
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I can't believe that the are actually using the WMD charade again. I just puked a bit.

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I'd be a little more comfortable if we had a clue about whom we were actually arming. .
There is a pretty darn good clue. That what is fvked up

Syrian rebels pledge loyalty to al-Qaeda
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What we need in the US is a law that forbids invading and/or maintaining a police presence in more than two nations at a time (including the US).
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What we need in the US is a law that forbids invading and/or maintaining a police presence in more than two nations at a time (including the US).
Its pretty messed up. They are trying to take America's guns away at the moment...yet will now arm the terrorists who are "trying to take our freedoms"

. How fvked up is that.
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