A question to those who put EMG's in LP's

jrnic · 10-26-2009, 03:02 PM

I was wondering if when you put EMG's in your Les Paul, did you re-use the metal plate that holds the pots, or did you remove it and just install the pots right into the cavity without the plate?

This brings me to another question. I know if you re-use the plate, you would have to use the long shaft pots. But if you put the pots straight into the wood, do you still need the longer pot shafts, or will the shorter ones work?

I have a set of EMG's I'm considering putting in my LP Studio, but I only have short pot shafts and I haven't removed the stock pots and plate yet to take a look. Thanks.

captcoolaid · 10-26-2009, 03:48 PM

Are they active EMG's.

bryvincent · 10-26-2009, 04:04 PM

you still have to use the long shafts even if you don't use the metal plate.

jrnic · 10-26-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bryvincent

you still have to use the long shafts even if you don't use the metal plate.

Great, Thanks very much for your help!!

jrnic · 10-26-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by captcoolaid

Are they active EMG's.

Yes they are. I actually have an 81, 85 and an 89. I was thnking of putting in the 81 in the bridge and the 89 in the neck. I've seen long shaft pot sets from EMG on eBay that have the push/pull switch I would need for the 89.

The_Sentry · 10-26-2009, 08:08 PM

I pulled the plate...and used long shafted pots. (You can order the pots and caps in a full harness from guitarpartsdepot.com if you don't want the ZW EMG 81/85 set)

EDIT: And I upgraded to Seymour Duncan Blackouts...

On a side note...the EMG X series pickups might be as good, but IMHO those Blackouts blow the regular EMG's out of the water...(but the EMG harness and wiring can be used with the Blackouts....so either way...)

zeppelin101 · 10-26-2009, 08:41 PM

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

frankfalbo · 10-27-2009, 12:26 AM

Wow, Sentry thanks for the compliments!

FYI we will send people long-shaft pots at no charge if they need them. I'm not sure if we make you prove that you have a Blackouts receipt or not, but that's our policy if you call in. Maybe they can just make you read the job code on the bottom of the pickup or whatever. But it is free of charge.

The_Sentry · 10-27-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by frankfalbo

Wow, Sentry thanks for the compliments!

FYI we will send people long-shaft pots at no charge if they need them. I'm not sure if we make you prove that you have a Blackouts receipt or not, but that's our policy if you call in. Maybe they can just make you read the job code on the bottom of the pickup or whatever. But it is free of charge.

Frank....I love my Blackouts....in fact, it's my "go to" guitar....here's a pic of my Studio...

And I like the fact that you're willing to offer up long shafted pots like that...but hear me out.....

The EMG harness setup is really sweet. Really sweet. I know there's probably patent and copyright issues, but is there any way SD could offer up something like that for their Blackouts? I'd love to see someone put something out there like another solder-less setup...and something that could not only be installed in minutes, but would have a quick-connect and disconnect so a set of pickups could be changed out in a matter of minutes...(and without a soldering iron.)

Although I think people appreciate the free pots (even though that might be a trojan horse. "OH yeah...I got me a dozen sets of Blackouts here!"

)...I really think it would be cool if there was something that would allow for installation with minimal tools.

(Sorry...it's sort of this burr under my saddle. I love active electronics if it makes a player's life easier. This is related...)

How to improve the PCB board

Kiwirocker · 10-27-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

Or Active pickups for that matter.

MrRhoads · 10-27-2009, 02:18 AM

Active pickups do have their qualities and it´s a matter of taste as well.
Stop being so prejudice, no one´s forcing you to use it

The_Sentry · 10-27-2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

Or Active pickups for that matter.

I use both. I have use of both.

Tell you what....want me to change out all my guitars to passive pups? Send money.

Kiwirocker · 10-27-2009, 02:50 AM

Wow, i've been back on this forum for like 5 mins and im already pissing people off.

nice guitar btw.

Nigel T. · 10-27-2009, 05:48 AM

I have a 85/60 pair in my Les Paul... Long shafts, no metal plate.

MrRhoads · 10-27-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

Wow, i've been back on this forum for like 5 mins and im already pissing people off.

nice guitar btw.

Nah, you didn´t piss me off, just trying to point out that even thoug you don´t seem to like active pickups they do have their qualities.
Have you tried some actives?
The more gear you try the more experience you´ll gain and the more you´ll learn about tone

The_Sentry · 10-27-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

Wow, i've been back on this forum for like 5 mins and im already pissing people off.

nice guitar btw.

Nah, it's cool.

I just don't understand the spite towards a product untried. If someone had tried Blackouts in their guitar and didn't like 'em...that'd be one thing.

As far as actives go, never heard too many people complain about David Gilmour's tone. Just sayin'.

Kiwirocker · 10-27-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Sentry

As far as actives go, never heard too many people complain about David Gilmour's tone. Just sayin'.

You have got a point there.

And I suppose their kind of stereotyped to being more metal, higher output and all. I suppose thats just not for me, but i'll never know till I try some out.

The_Sentry · 10-27-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

You have got a point there.

And I suppose their kind of stereotyped to being more metal, higher output and all. I suppose thats just not for me, but i'll never know till I try some out.

TBH I don't play much metal at all. My style leans more towards funk/blues with a lot of leads on top...but that's why I got 'em...the cleans are very thick, very full and they sustain well, and the leads are killer!

I know that not everyone shares this opinion, but it's cool to have at least one guitar with actives in it.

MrRhoads · 10-27-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

You have got a point there.

And I suppose their kind of stereotyped to being more metal, higher output and all. I suppose thats just not for me, but i'll never know till I try some out.

Gary Moore used a EMG 81 in his Super Strats back in the 80s and you don´t really think of EMG or Metal when you hear Gary Moore

jrnic · 10-27-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

Because we CAN and WANT TO!

PS: Thanks to all those here who gave me the answer I was looking for!

Kiwirocker · 10-28-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Sentry

TBH I don't play much metal at all. My style leans more towards funk/blues with a lot of leads on top...but that's why I got 'em...the cleans are very thick, very full and they sustain well, and the leads are killer!

I know that not everyone shares this opinion, but it's cool to have at least one guitar with actives in it.

Wow, I've been strangely swayed by this thread. I 'may' actually get an active Pup, thick, full, well sustained leads are my cup of tea. (and I don't even like tea)

Mr_Wormwood · 10-28-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

they are just filling up the holes and providing me with my LP until my Wolftone Legends arrive

then they go right back into the BC Rich Warlock

The_Sentry · 10-28-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

Wow, I've been strangely swayed by this thread. I 'may' actually get an active Pup, thick, full, well sustained leads are my cup of tea. (and I don't even like tea)

Kiwi...I wouldn't state this if I wasn't willing to put my money where my mouth is. I really like the sound of actives in some guitars.

This is one of 'em..(I did a demo comparing a resomax bridge against a Gotoh in the same guitar...and it was all done cleanly...with active pickups.)

Gotoh vs. Graphtech Resomax bridges

Kiwirocker · 10-28-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Sentry

Kiwi...I wouldn't state this if I wasn't willing to put my money where my mouth is.

Oh believe me I AM willing, funds just don't check out at the moment.

Nigel T. · 10-28-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

One of the main goals I had when I set out to upgrade my six strings was to enhance all sustain and get the entire assembly to have the same output level. The sounds I heard from EMGs, whether that is Judas Priest, Mark Knopfler or David Gilmour told me that I liked them.

Tuya Customs · 10-28-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

THANKYOU!. ive had emg actives and passives in my LP. YUCK. dont castrate youre LP by putting emgs!! once i put rockfields in mine it was such a difference! you dont need high output pickups use the gain from your amp. emgs are the least versatile pickups ive ever heard. put them in a jackson not a gibby

Kiwirocker · 10-29-2009, 01:12 AM

Ouch, this could get nasty :O

Personally i'd prefer passive.

The_Sentry · 10-29-2009, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

Ouch, this could get nasty :O

Personally i'd prefer passive.

*shrugs*

To each their own. I'd love to hear a tone demo...

Paragon · 10-30-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

my question to people who put EMGs in their Les Pauls: WHY????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwirocker

Or Active pickups for that matter.

My question to you.. have you tried them? No? Well every time I heard EMG or active (especially together) I always thought of heavy rock. You know.. the usual loud and distorted.
Well I got a set for a friend to throw in a Kramer and I got to tell you.. you can get some nice tones out of it (which reminds me I don't think I have had a chance to play it on the good amp yet - I just played on the practice amp) But anyhoo.. cleans up nicely and can get some great blues sound out of it.. Hmm.. next time I am over.. I will have to mess around with it again.
Overall, I was quite pleased with them and totally not what I expected. I look upon them differently now.

Tuya Customs · 11-04-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paragon

My question to you.. have you tried them? No? Well every time I heard EMG or active (especially together) I always thought of heavy rock. You know.. the usual loud and distorted.
Well I got a set for a friend to throw in a Kramer and I got to tell you.. you can get some nice tones out of it (which reminds me I don't think I have had a chance to play it on the good amp yet - I just played on the practice amp) But anyhoo.. cleans up nicely and can get some great blues sound out of it.. Hmm.. next time I am over.. I will have to mess around with it again.
Overall, I was quite pleased with them and totally not what I expected. I look upon them differently now.

EMG's are too scooped for blues...

10-26-2009, 03:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
jrnic Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 384 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	A question to those who put EMG's in LP's I was wondering if when you put EMG's in your Les Paul, did you re-use the metal plate that holds the pots, or did you remove it and just install the pots right into the cavity without the plate? This brings me to another question. I know if you re-use the plate, you would have to use the long shaft pots. But if you put the pots straight into the wood, do you still need the longer pot shafts, or will the shorter ones work? I have a set of EMG's I'm considering putting in my LP Studio, but I only have short pot shafts and I haven't removed the stock pots and plate yet to take a look. Thanks.

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frankfalbo Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A question to those who put EMG's in LP's Wow, Sentry thanks for the compliments! FYI we will send people long-shaft pots at no charge if they need them. I'm not sure if we make you prove that you have a Blackouts receipt or not, but that's our policy if you call in. Maybe they can just make you read the job code on the bottom of the pickup or whatever. But it is free of charge.

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