Skatterbrane Pickups [merged]

[180gROC]

For 2 million bucks I would try to shit a humbucker, but would I accept a dime for what I came up with?

It's cool enough to not be into it, but you got pretty specific about what you believe goes into getting that tone, and I disagree. I don't believe it's all in pedals and SS amps. That's my opinion.

Actually, a ton of it is from the pickup... go figure.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by 180gROC

For 2 million bucks I would try to shit a humbucker, but would I accept a dime for what I came up with?

It's cool enough to not be into it, but you got pretty specific about what you believe goes into getting that tone, and I disagree. I don't believe it's all in pedals and SS amps. That's my opinion.

Actually, a ton of it is from the pickup... go figure.

I believe you, but I could not discern it with my own ears.

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

180gROC I would NEVER expect someone who appreciates metal to agree with what I suggest. I am only putting that forth because that is all it means to me. Would you want ME to wind you a metal pickup? Would you want Rambler to make you a Muscle car? (they made a few) I would not trust me to make a metal pickup!

IMO there is a distinct difference between appreciating something compared to actually liking it .

[180gROC]

Everything I've heard says you wind a mean 7.5K/8.3 set of pickups. I'll not doubt you there.

I bet with a modded MT-2 and an eq pedal I could make dem bitches wail too!

Ok I'm kidding man! Well... not really (I dig PAFs for metal, no mt-2 required), but I'm not trying to tweak your nose anymore than the that. Peace!

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by PINKBITS

IMO there is a distinct difference between appreciating something compared to actually liking it .

Oh I completely agree, I do not like metal, but I appreciate the talent of the musicians, but I just cannot appreciate the tone. I can appreciate the talent it takes to make Sashsimi, but I cannot appreciate the taste of raw fish.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by 180gROC

Everything I've heard says you wind a mean 7.5K/8.3 set of pickups. I'll not doubt you there.

I bet with a modded MT-2 and an eq pedal I could make dem bitches wail too!

Ok I'm kidding man! Well... not really (I dig PAFs for metal, no mt-2 required), but I'm not trying to tweak your nose anymore than the that. Peace!

I am sure, processed properly YOU COULD make my pickups sound decent for metal. But I know there are better pickups out there designed for that purpose.

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Oh I completely agree, I do not like metal, but I appreciate the talent of the musicians, but I just cannot appreciate the tone. I can appreciate the talent it takes to make Sashsimi, but I cannot appreciate the taste of raw fish.

I wish you the best of luck.

[180gROC]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

I am sure, processed properly YOU COULD make my pickups sound decent for metal. But I know there are better pickups out there designed for that purpose.

Wouldn't take any processing at all really. PAFs wrapped in a Les Paul straight into a jcm800 with an equalizer in the loop about does it.

Maybe not for downtuned numetal, but who listens to that crap??

[st.bede]

here is a few of my thoughts:

I think that you have some really great PUs...you web site is a bit confusing but, I believe that you did update so that there are some clips, if I remember right....

It is all crazy, people tend to be drawn toward a certain maker or another...for example Lollar is barley mentioned here but, I have two sets of his PUs...

I have started to think about your PUs so, you got my attention...and that means there must be more...

I could make some suggestions but, I really can not say, anything because I have no knowledge of business stuff....

I would say one thing...IMHO, you could be a bit more actively speaking about your product....not pushy, but explaining what and why it is a good choice...at the same time giving respect where it is due....

I hate the idea of you having to work day job...I am so happy having all these great PU around....

When I went to buy a HB sized P90...I wanted harmonic design but they were back ordered for months...the web page was cool and they got great reviews...but, I went with Fralins...I hated thier web page but, I said no one else is doing this so, I had no choice...When I got Lawrence PU it was for a very certain vibe...they were suggested to me from a guru and, being cheap it was no problem...When I got my WBs it was because of the level of pure worship of WBs, here on MLP....I just happened along Lollars and decided to do it after reading harmony central...before that I did not even know that there were better PUs then SD and I was never super happy with my SDs and I had tried a lot....WCR was just a here and harmony Central thing....I really can not tell you why I went with them....

IMHO The one thing is to find a niche or a way of presenting your PUs in a nichy way...the old school PAF PU market is pretty full of many great choices...and it might be at a point where it is just hard to get the recognition.

Also, if you look at WB's and WCR's web pages and names of PUs they are "artsy"...I got confused with your letter thing....

I respond well to you cool phaty frog logo but, then again I really do not know what to say....

I wish you the very best. Peace

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

It seems it is you who has lost his cool. I tend to do that with people by trying to get to the bottom of things. I frustrate people.

Hey I only lose my over BIG THINGS not small B.S. like this.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Well I personally do not like when pickups are named after famous guitarists, famous albums or songs, or famous rock n roll venues etc. It implies that the pickups will SOUND like that person, song or album. I get people asking me what pickup will sound like Page or Bloomfield etc. I humor them, and they are happy "Wow it nails the Bloomfield tone" Or "I sound just like Page" well, they are both the SAME pickup!--a good P.A.F. clone.

If your style emulates your hero, and you use certain amp settings and you take your time tweeking your setup with a good set of P.A.F. clones, you are going to sound like who you want to sound like (if you have the talent) My pickups are neutral enough for a wide variety of tones.

[SKATTERBRANE]

I have always had loads of clips on my site under "toneclips video" and "just some audio clips" Maybe it is not clear that I have 10 pages you can navigate too? But after the home page there is only one other page you need to get to that has product description and to order.

[MrRhoads]

After reading all posts this is my opinion;

Hats of to you Skatterbrane
My mom said to me long ago "why don´t you start a cover band and make some money ouf of your talent on guitar?"
I wan´t to do my own thing and if people like it and pays for it that´s a bonus
So you´ve got my respect for doing your own thing and sticking to it.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Thanks. I would love to do this forever....to actually make a living in the process.

[Led Zep Fan]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

But whenever someone tries to speak for me, they either get ignored or run off the forum! My marketing technique is not very effective I must say. I would say that most of my customers are not from the forums, and my review on Premier Guitar, my ads there and my sponsership here has not yielded a single sale.

Holy Christ, I wonder why?

[SKATTERBRANE]

Well there is certainly no reason for this forum to treat any of my customers who post here, poorly.

[andykoctopus]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Tell me what is confusing about this page? Top of the page explains the R-K and the Raw set. I tell you I only do ONE wind (one each for bridge and neck actually) I tell you that you can choose your magnet, and each selection has a bit about what they are, pictures at the bottom of the page:

https://www.skatterbrane.com/ORDERING_AND_PAYMENT.html

the problem is that it doesn't explain your products very well. I have no idea what R-K I-Q means. I don't know what Mar-T-IV is.

If you only make one wind type, explain that clearly and then explain what each option means.

I found your site confusing and hard to navigate.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by andykoctopus

the problem is that it doesn't explain your products very well. I have no idea what R-K I-Q means. I don't know what Mar-T-IV is.

If you only make one wind type, explain that clearly and then explain what each option means.

I found your site confusing and hard to navigate.

I modded it last night. Is it any clearer now, the different models?

SEE: https://www.skatterbrane.com/ORDERING_AND_PAYMENT.html

[180gROC]

Suggestions and opinions all.....

The website looks like it was put together by somebody who's really good at winding pickups.

You're pickups aren't cheap, but the web page looks like it is.

My suggestion would be to contact somebody who's passion is HTML, and express your passion for PAF's to him. Together you can create a website that looks like it's selling a high end boutique product. You don't have that now.

It would seem to me that the reason to only offer one wind would be simplicity. Your web page takes simplicity and kicks its ass. I stopped reading when I got to the super secret code named pickups. I can see not wanting to name a pickup "The Page", but surely something simple that doesn't hurt the eyes and create more questions than it answers might help.

Suggestions and opinions. That's all they are. I wouldn't take the time if I didn't care...

[SKATTERBRANE]

I am not sure what a name matters? But I agree with you, my website looks cheap, because I do it myself and have no talent or passion in that area.

[Jason]

I know what you mean SB... I'm good with graphics, and I did get into doing web design for awhile, but after a couple of clients I just got sick of the html side of things... I got kind of flaky and unreliable and then just quit it altogether.

[180gROC]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

I am not sure what a name matters? But I agree with you, my website looks cheap, because I do it myself and have no talent or passion in that area.

Ideally the name of a marketed product should not create more questions than it answers.

Maybe if you let us know what the codes mean or what you were thinking when you named them?

If you are not sure why the name matters, you obviously don't have a passion for marketing either. Cool enough if it's a hobby, but you've expressed a desire to do it full time.

[Jason]

Here's a site I did: Valley Mule Company

The graphics and the layout were a ton of fun... but then the guy wanted me to update it constantly and add new stuff... and he wasn't at all computer literate so it was a bitch and a half. He wouldn't communicate via email. I tried to get him up to speed with stuff so he could just email me pictures to put on the site, but he just didn't have time to learn it all... so I ended up having to scan a poopload of pictures, and retype a bunch of customer emails that he'd printed and then deleted... and then continually having to figure out how to code new features into the site.... bah! After the creative/inventive aspect is done it's a lot of grunt work.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by 180gROC

Ideally the name of a marketed product should not create more questions than it answers.

Maybe if you let us know what the codes mean or what you were thinking when you named them?

If you are not sure why the name matters, you obviously don't have a passion for marketing either. Cool enough if it's a hobby, but you've expressed a desire to do it full time.

No offense intended, but I think that advice is a bit outdated. In the age of the internet, we're actually finding that the name of the company is insignificant as long as the branding can make it memorable. (I've done a bit of marketing myself)

[alligatorbling]

Originally Posted by Jason

Here's a site I did: Valley Mule Company

The graphics and the layout were a ton of fun... but then the guy wanted me to update it constantly and add new stuff... and he wasn't at all computer literate so it was a bitch and a half. He wouldn't communicate via email. I tried to get him up to speed with stuff so he could just email me pictures to put on the site, but he just didn't have time to learn it all... so I ended up having to scan a poopload of pictures, and retype a bunch of customer emails that he'd printed and then deleted... and then continually having to figure out how to code new features into the site.... bah! After the creative/inventive aspect is done it's a lot of grunt work.

MULES!

jason you da MULE MAN MANG!

jason made da mule page! he deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it!

[Jason]

Originally Posted by alligatorbling

MULES!

jason you da MULE MAN MANG!

jason made da mule page! he deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it!

That's right! I learned a shitload about mules in the process too... and gained a great respect for them and as well as asses.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by 180gROC

Ideally the name of a marketed product should not create more questions than it answers.

Maybe if you let us know what the codes mean or what you were thinking when you named them?

If you are not sure why the name matters, you obviously don't have a passion for marketing either. Cool enough if it's a hobby, but you've expressed a desire to do it full time.

I am taking ALL the advice very seriously. I changed the names now. Basically I have Standard, Standard Plus, Raw and Premium. Does this help, and if this was the reason you did not buy, would you consider buying now? Am I closer to making things simpler and more clear?

[alligatorbling]

Originally Posted by Jason

That's right! I learned a shitload about mules in the process too... and gained a great respect for them and as well as asses.

i am dying laughing over here.... thinking about you sitting there plunking away at the keyboard designing a mule website.... i dont know why i find this funny... but i sure as hell do, im fucxking cracking up right now

[alligatorbling]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Am I closer to making things simpler and more clear?

pickup 1, pickup 2, pickup 3, pickup 4, pickup 5

[SKATTERBRANE]

I could call them "Fillmore East" "Fillmore West" "The Montereys" "Skypuppies" "The Greenish" etc.