Skatterbrane Pickups [merged]

[captcoolaid]

:lol

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by captcoolaid

Not clear on the last ?

Quoting you: "People have tried but with all you winders it never works."

I would NEVER try to clone another winders pickup, it was just a joke, a satirical, ironic observation. But other winders, I mention above, are quite successful and it "works" for them. Not the cloning, but the making, marketing and selling of their great pickups. I do not think I lack a great product, is my main point.

[captcoolaid]

What does, the fact they they all wind great pups. Yes they do. As far as the joke went I got it right off just making some comments for those who may not have.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by captcoolaid

Here I will say it. I love your neck pups some of my fave clips. But I like my bridge to be hotttttttt and I have yet to hear one as good as my UV20. If you make one I will praise it in an open forum. We all need to stay together.

Ah, I understand, but HOT is not PAF territory. I am not interested in making pickups for modern tone or metal. I am into the blues, and classic rock territory. Even jazz! But never 80s hair band stuff or metal. I can't make what I do not dig.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by captcoolaid

What does, the fact they they all wind great pups. Yes they do. As far as the joke went I got it right off just making some comments for those who may not have.

Oh and I totally appreciate it.

[captcoolaid]

I am not a huge PAF fan. They have there place but I play alot of motherlovebone meets AC/DC meets gind core. However I have a deep love of the blue so the neck comes in handy there. Yeah bud your neck pups just kill it for me. they have that low end clarity with out that weird mid compression that I hear a lot. When I get some flow I am planning on getting a neck from ya.

[overdriver]

AT 400$ a set I can see why ya don't sell many

[PINKBITS]

Now I say this purely to offer my opinion Skatt and maybe give you some ideas.

I do find your website a little hard to follow and a bit boring so to speak. Please take no offense

Most winders like WCR, BKP, WB etc have clear explanations on each of there winds and technical specs like approx output etc, what sort of tunes they are suitable for etc. Their websites are detailed with plenty of pics etc.

I leave them feeling I have a good idea of what they are offering in their products.

Also, you have your Skatterbrane standard nickel cover priced at $295. Are you able to get raw nickel covers on your standard set? It doesn't say anywhere.

IMO these are reasonably expensive considering the current world financial situation. However I think WCR and BKP are expensive too.

Maybe offering MLP members a discount would be a good thing, IDK. Would be good for us members anyways

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Ah, I understand, but HOT is not PAF territory. I am not interested in making pickups for modern tone or metal. I am into the blues, and classic rock territory. Even jazz! But never 80s hair band stuff or metal. I can't make what I do not dig.

This also is possibly an issue. I would say that guys like WCR, WB, BKP and Wolfetone would sell a lot of their modern winds.

Even offering a bridge pu around the 9 to 10k mark could be usefull.

I too like a hot bridge for some applications.

[overdriver]

A disscount LOL have to be aleast 60% off IMO ;no thanks not for me when I can get these J S Moore Pickups - Home

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by overdriver

AT 400$ a set I can see why ya don't sell many

I wonder why people always quote my more expensive ones to make this point? There are other winders who have $400-$750 sets! BN? Tom Holmes? My standard set WITH nickel covers AND shipping to USA is $295.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

I wonder why people always quote my more expensive ones to make this point? There are other winders who have $400-$750 sets! BN? Tom Holmes? My standard set WITH nickel covers AND shipping to USA is $295.

Because the way your site is set up , it says 295 a pickup then 400 a set its confusing. And what makes one set more exspensive than another ? I will go look again but it looked like they where 295. a pup

Other winders like Tom and them LOL ,if suckers what to pay that much thats their Problem IMO , Moore makes pups as good or better than ANYONE and even his price is a tad high IMO .

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

I wonder why people always quote my more expensive ones to make this point? There are other winders who have $400-$750 sets! BN? Tom Holmes? My standard set WITH nickel covers AND shipping to USA is $295.

I did

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by PINKBITS

I did

did what ?

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by PINKBITS

Now I say this purely to offer my opinion Skatt and maybe give you some ideas.

I do find your website a little hard to follow and a bit boring so to speak. Please take no offense

Most winders like WCR, BKP, WB etc have clear explanations on each of there winds and technical specs like approx output etc, what sort of tunes they are suitable for etc. Their websites are detailed with plenty of pics etc.

I leave them feeling I have a good idea of what they are offering in their products.

Also, you have your Skatterbrane standard nickel cover priced at $295. Are you able to get raw nickel covers on your standard set? It doesn't say anywhere.

IMO these are reasonably expensive considering the current world financial situation. However I think WCR and BKP are expensive too.

Maybe offering MLP members a discount would be a good thing, IDK. Would be good for us members anyways

Every attempt to offer discounts and my specials have all gone unfulfilled. I have a special now, and I had another up until July 4th. No, you cannot get raw covers on my standard set! You have to buy my raw set. I do not offer a mix and match or a smorgasbord. I have defined sets and they are explained on my "contact and payment" page. I make it clear that I have only one wind. The tonal differences are from the covers, magnets, and pole screws. But I make only one wind. If I were to offer hotter pickups I would be getting into poly covered 43 or 44 awg wire. That is not PAF. I ONLY do PAF style pickups. (and now P90s as well)

I admit my website is a bit much. But once you get to the contact and payment page, all my options and different sets are right there, many having pull down menus for magnet options. The bobbin options are separated out. I find it logical. I know other guys have a pickup and then add bobbin options or cover options for each type of set. I, on the other hand, separate the bobbin options and put magnet options under each. I have separte listings for nickel, raw and the Mar-T I-V and the R-K I-Q set, and each of those have either magnet options or cosmetic options.

But if you have any questions just email me. No need to ask about the readings because ALL the necks are around 7.5K and ALL the bridges are around 8.3K. ALL of the clips are with pickups with these readings and the differences are magnets or covers.

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by overdriver

did what ?

Mentioned his standard set @ $295

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by PINKBITS

Mentioned his standard set @ $295

Oh I see now !Still Too MUCH IMO.


The clips sound good Skatter. Bring your prices down and I bet you sell more.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Tell me what is confusing about this page? Top of the page explains the R-K and the Raw set. I tell you I only do ONE wind (one each for bridge and neck actually) I tell you that you can choose your magnet, and each selection has a bit about what they are, pictures at the bottom of the page:

https://www.skatterbrane.com/ORDERING_AND_PAYMENT.html

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Every attempt to offer discounts and my specials have all gone unfulfilled. I have a special now, and I had another up until July 4th. No, you cannot get raw covers on my standard set! You have to buy my raw set. I do not offer a mix and match or a smorgasbord. I have defined sets and they are explained on my "contact and payment" page. I make it clear that I have only one wind. The tonal differences are from the covers, magnets, and pole screws. But I make only one wind. If I were to offer hotter pickups I would be getting into poly covered 43 or 44 awg wire. That is not PAF. I ONLY do PAF style pickups. (and now P90s as well)

I admit my website is a bit much. But once you get to the contact and payment page, all my options and different sets are right there, many having pull down menus for magnet options. The bobbin options are separated out. I find it logical. I know other guys have a pickup and then add bobbin options or cover options for each type of set. I, on the other hand, separate the bobbin options and put magnet options under each. I have separte listings for nickel, raw and the Mar-T I-V and the R-K I-Q set, and each of those have either magnet options or cosmetic options.

But if you have any questions just email me. No need to ask about the readings because ALL the necks are around 7.5K and ALL the bridges are around 8.3K. ALL of the clips are with pickups with these readings and the differences are magnets or covers.

I understand what you are trying to achieve and that you are obviously passionate about PAF buckers.

I like many others enjoy a smorgas board .

If I am going with a custom winder I want pretty much what ever I ask for within reason.

People like choice. You see I don't understand why you wouldn't offer your standard winds with raw nickel covers .

I personally don't like the shiny nickel covers. If I was interested in your standard set but you didn't offer them with raw nickel aswell I would look elsewhere.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by PINKBITS

I understand what you are trying to achieve and that you are obviously passionate about PAF buckers.

I like many others enjoy a smorgas board .

If I am going with a custom winder I want pretty much what ever I ask for within reason.

People like choice. You see I don't understand why you wouldn't offer your standard winds with raw nickel covers .

I personally don't like the shiny nickel covers. If I was interested in your standard set but you didn't offer them with raw nickel aswell I would look elsewhere.

Well if they have the much more expensive replica 1958 raw covers, then they would not be the Standard set anymore, would they?

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Tell me what is confusing about this page? Top of the page explains the R-K and the Raw set. I tell you I only do ONE wind (one each for bridge and neck actually) I tell you that you can choose your magnet, and each selection has a bit about what they are, pictures at the bottom of the page:

https://www.skatterbrane.com/ORDERING_AND_PAYMENT.html

For example as in my previous post. The fact you don't offer raw nickel covers with your standard wind.

The winders I have looked into before will do pretty much what ever cover style you like.

Again I am certainly not having a crack at you Skatt, just trying to offer a helpfull opinion.

[SKATTERBRANE]

I have wound some special requests, and guess what? They did not like them as much as my original! Why do you think I wind the sets that I do? Because they sound good.

I know people would rather go to 31 flavors to buy their vanilla icecream. Even people who ONLY want vanilla would NEVER buy from someone only offering vanilla.

[overdriver]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Tell me what is confusing about this page? Top of the page explains the R-K and the Raw set. I tell you I only do ONE wind (one each for bridge and neck actually) I tell you that you can choose your magnet, and each selection has a bit about what they are, pictures at the bottom of the page:

https://www.skatterbrane.com/ORDERING_AND_PAYMENT.html

Well an example look at this page J S Moore Pickups - Home clearly states where and how to navigate the site clear cut descriptions of products and pricing. Even if you had a thing to click on that said PRODUCTS, a person could just click on without tring to decide which thing to click , would show products.

[alligatorbling]

if they were a true clone they would take a long time to get there.... it adds to the experience....

[mrpesca]

Every pickup is a copy of the original. Who cares if you copy another winder who copied from somebody else? You guys are all making your own version of the Seth Lover design no?

I have a feeling that if you tried to copy Wills pickups, it would end up sounding like a Skatterbrane anyway.

An interesting question anyway.

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by PINKBITS

For example as in my previous post. The fact you don't offer raw nickel covers with your standard wind.

The winders I have looked into before will do pretty much what ever cover style you like.

Again I am certainly not having a crack at you Skatt, just trying to offer a helpfull opinion.

Well I CAN put raw covers on my Standard set, but it would cost you another $100, thus you get my Raw set. Does that make sense? The standard nickel covers (that are shiny) are MUCH different than the shiny nickel covers on my R-K I-Q set! The Standard set has modern, common and inexpensive covers. The Raw set have repro PAF covers and the R-K set have shiny PAF repro covers. It would not make sense to put the expensive Raw covers on my Standard set, because then they would not be my standard set anymore.

I know other guys have a building block approach, I just separate models differently.

[overdriver]

You really feel a dollar upcharge to flip a mag or two is called for and 50$ to reverse wind.?

[SKATTERBRANE]

Originally Posted by overdriver

Well an example look at this page J S Moore Pickups - Home clearly states where and how to navigate the site clear cut descriptions of products and pricing. Even if you had a thing to click on that said PRODUCTS, a person could just click on without tring to decide which thing to click , would show products.

So the choice on the top of my site is confusing? What is confusing about "contact and payment" and then you see all my product and you click add to cart for each one? On the other guys site, it seems you order Humbucker and then have to explain to him what you want later? or before? I mean he has a whole list of Humbuckers to choose from, but they do not have individual payment selections.

[alligatorbling]

heres my 2 cents on boosting sales....

run a special discounting them wicked cheap and let the pups speak for themselves...

times are hard... most common folks done even have 200 bucks for a set of pups, and if they do they saved for a while to get it....

figure up what your selling now... how much it cost to wind them, how much time you have, and how much you will make back... then think about how many more you will sell, and how having a word of mouth thing going because you sold more for less

[PINKBITS]

Originally Posted by SKATTERBRANE

Well if they have the much more expensive replica 1958 raw covers, then they would not be the Standard set anymore, would they?

I understand Skatt but why don't you offer a standard raw nickel cover?

I personally just prefer the look of raw nickel to the bright shiny covers. Again, it's personal preference and the ability to choose. Choice is good .

IMO if you cut down on your prospective clients options/choices you will inevitably cut out some of your prospective clients as a result.