Pickup for British Sound

MrRhoads · 03-21-2009, 07:26 AM

What would be a good pickup for that old british rock sound?
The British sound has more mids and highs compared to the USA sound which is more bass & treble.
That´s the general difference

5F6-A · 03-21-2009, 07:48 AM

The difference was mainly the difference between EL34s used in Marshalls ( UK ) and 6L6s used in america. Not the pickups to blame but rather the power amp valves, my friend.

MrRhoads · 03-21-2009, 08:19 AM

Ok

thanks for the info.
But i guess there could be pickups that are voiced a little more with mids and highs.

5F6-A · 03-21-2009, 10:27 AM

of course... but originally the difference came mainly from the amps. That was my point.

Many pickups offer that upper-midrange hump for example the BKP Holydiver is agood example if you like it hot.

voices · 03-21-2009, 10:28 AM

how bout some Burns Tri Sonics?

MrRhoads · 03-21-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 5F6-A

of course... but originally the difference came mainly from the amps. That was my point.

Many pickups offer that upper-midrange hump for example the BKP Holydiver is agood example if you like it hot.

I truly apreciate that info since i´m bying a Peavey Windsor Studio in the nearby future which can handle both EL34 and 6L6 and a total of 6 different tube in the power amp section the master volume, i´m not sure i got the name right for it but i hope you understand

Thanks

MrRhoads · 03-21-2009, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voices

how bout some Burns Tri Sonics?

do you have link to their site???

voices · 03-21-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRhoads

do you have link to their site???

im sorry i dont. but i got mine off ebay for cheap. maybe you could do a search on Google for them.

Nigel Tufnel's tech · 03-21-2009, 07:17 PM

Accessories Burns Guitars London

gmacdonnell · 03-21-2009, 07:35 PM

I love Tri Sonics. Kent Armstrong makes a nice one. I've even seen a dual Tri-Sonic, (would that be a Hex-Sonic?) wired as a humbucker that I think Kent made in his Custom Shop.

Think the Shadows, or Brian May.

oilpit · 03-21-2009, 07:41 PM

I'm pretty sure any PAF style will do the trick...

Fixxxer · 03-21-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5F6-A

The difference was mainly the difference between EL34s used in Marshalls ( UK ) and 6L6s used in america. Not the pickups to blame but rather the power amp valves, my friend.

ding ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Answer

EEF13 · 03-22-2009, 12:04 AM

Dimarzio Super Distortion for an Iron Maiden sound. That's British.

lp_junkie · 03-22-2009, 02:38 AM

Old PAF's (Clapton, Page, Iommi) and Marshall or Orange amps.

MrRhoads · 03-22-2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel's tech

Accessories Burns Guitars London

Thank you

MrRhoads · 03-22-2009, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmacdonnell

I love Tri Sonics. Kent Armstrong makes a nice one. I've even seen a dual Tri-Sonic, (would that be a Hex-Sonic?) wired as a humbucker that I think Kent made in his Custom Shop.

Think the Shadows, or Brian May.

Brian May has a great rock sound

Hex-Sonic???
Would that be a humbucker with 6 mini blade coils?

gmacdonnell · 03-22-2009, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRhoads

Brian May has a great rock sound

Hex-Sonic???
Would that be a humbucker with 6 mini blade coils?

No, that was just a real bad joke. 2 Tri-Sonics = 6 (hex) Sonic?

Bad, I know.

MrRhoads · 03-22-2009, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmacdonnell

No, that was just a real bad joke. 2 Tri-Sonics = 6 (hex) Sonic?

Bad, I know.

it´s always fun with stuff like that

imagine a 6mini coil humbucker

ha ha, that would be cool to try, perhaps it might be able combining several magnets, mix alnico 2 & 5 or ceramic

if get bored sometime and have the parts i´m gonna try building one

ha ha ha

767400 · 03-22-2009, 07:42 AM

WB **** pickups and a treble booster is a great place to start. I have a D*A*M Red Rooster and a Analogman Beano Boost. Both really nice pedals to boost your mids and highs.

gmacdonnell · 03-22-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRhoads

it´s always fun with stuff like that

imagine a 6mini coil humbucker

ha ha, that would be cool to try, perhaps it might be able combining several magnets, mix alnico 2 & 5 or ceramic

if get bored sometime and have the parts i´m gonna try building one

ha ha ha

Check out Pete Biltoft's pickups at Vintage Vibe Guitars

He has a modular design that makes swapping magnets, or mixing and matching really easy. His pickups sound great, and incredibly made, and are a bargain in the boutique market.

I have a set of his humbuckers, and to experiment I've tried mixing a few different Alnico's, and even a Ceramic, to see what I get. A lot of the tones are really interesting and great for texture on a recording.

Tone Seeker · 03-22-2009, 02:44 PM

A set of FilterTron style pickups might be worth considering. . . .

TV Jones Pickups

Terry.

LiveOak · 03-22-2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilpit

I'm pretty sure any PAF style will do the trick...

+1 My thoughts exactly!

Angus · 03-23-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5F6-A

The difference was mainly the difference between EL34s used in Marshalls ( UK ) and 6L6s used in america. Not the pickups to blame but rather the power amp valves, my friend.

Weren't some of the earlier Marshalls (Clapton's for example) using the KT66 valve which didn't have the kink in the midrange that the 6L6 had?

gmacdonnell · 03-23-2009, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angus

Weren't some of the earlier Marshalls (Clapton's for example) using the KT66 valve which didn't have the kink in the midrange that the 6L6 had?

Yes, the earlier Marshalls, (as wlel as the new Vintage Modern series,) used KT66's, which were designed to be a "perfect" 6l6 for audio uses. It has its own unique characteristics.

In fact, the early Marshall circuits were almost copies of Fender's Bassman circuit, (which was a Hammond Organ amp.)

If you plug a Bassman into a cabinet with Celestion, low wattage speakers, it'll sound pretty darn Marshall-y when cranked up.

That said, any amp with EL-84's or EL-34's is going to make a bigger difference in the British vs. American sound, than a set of pickups on its own.

Nigel Tufnel's tech · 03-23-2009, 01:32 PM

The only way get a British sounding pickup is to have that pickup played by a Brit.

.... "Rule Britannia"

MrRhoads · 03-23-2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel's tech

The only way get a British sounding pickup is to have that pickup played by a Brit.

.... "Rule Britannia"

I´m not sure exactly what you mean...

Sgt.Pepper · 03-24-2009, 12:49 PM

How about this guy. Nice guy, very skilled and knowledgeable winder and he has the original tooling for some fine British pickups.

Adeson - Classic Vintage Pickups

nwobhm · 05-21-2009, 12:54 PM

Burns

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5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sir Titus Salt's Land Posts: 7,986 Thanks: 396 Thanked 504 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Pickup for British Sound The difference was mainly the difference between EL34s used in Marshalls ( UK ) and 6L6s used in america. Not the pickups to blame but rather the power amp valves, my friend. __________________ “The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.” Sören Kierkegaard

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MrRhoads Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SWE Posts: 3,627 Thanks: 232 Thanked 76 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Pickup for British Sound Ok thanks for the info. But i guess there could be pickups that are voiced a little more with mids and highs. __________________ Proud user of "JonesyBlues Customshop" parts T-Top info read this http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/pick...490r-490t.html Alot of good wiring help http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tone...g-library.html Help on soldering http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tone...ow-solder.html Capacitor info http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tone...apacitors.html

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5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sir Titus Salt's Land Posts: 7,986 Thanks: 396 Thanked 504 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Pickup for British Sound of course... but originally the difference came mainly from the amps. That was my point. Many pickups offer that upper-midrange hump for example the BKP Holydiver is agood example if you like it hot. __________________ “The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.” Sören Kierkegaard

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gmacdonnell V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Somewhere on the East Coast, far from home... Posts: 1,548 Thanks: 30 Thanked 262 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Pickup for British Sound I love Tri Sonics. Kent Armstrong makes a nice one. I've even seen a dual Tri-Sonic, (would that be a Hex-Sonic?) wired as a humbucker that I think Kent made in his Custom Shop. Think the Shadows, or Brian May. __________________ "In our culture we have such respect for musical instruments, they are like part of God." - Ravi Shankar “Sounds like the blues are composed of feeling, finesse, and fear.” -Billy Gibbons

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