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Unread 04-11-2012, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

Just wondering if anybody here has adjusted the individual pole pieces on their pickups. Does it make sense to adjust them to match the string radius?
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

i have tried it before with a few gutiars. i dident notice much of a difference.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

I do it all the time with my neck p'up.

I don't need to do it the same with the bridge p'up though.

YMMV.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

I have tried it, and I have also gotten guitars back from techs who have done it, and I have not liked it one bit any time.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

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I have tried it, and I have also gotten guitars back from techs who have done it, and I have not liked it one bit any time.
I match the neck's radius with the polepieces as a starting point to balance the output difference between strings. As I've stated before, I find it necessary to do it in the neck p'up, not really in the bridge.

What exactly did you not like?
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

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I match the neck's radius with the polepieces as a starting point to balance the output difference between strings. As I've stated before, I find it necessary to do it in the neck p'up, not really in the bridge.
Same here... I do this on my neck pickups because I play lots of jazz stuff and I want every note in those complex chords to be heard. I also play rock/metal and sometimes bluegrass stuff, and I just like having my strings at the same volume. I usually make the B string polepiece a little lower because that string is generally louder than the rest. I don't do it on the bridge often unless the pickup sounds a little too dark, then I raise the poles to give it a little more clarity.
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I usually make the B string polepiece a little lower because that string is generally louder than the rest.
My same experience exactly.

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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

What about covered pickups? I tried raising the polepieces on mine and the cover was in the way. Guess I gotta remove the cover, take out the screws, then re-cover them then put the screws in?
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What about covered pickups? I tried raising the polepieces on mine and the cover was in the way.
Unless it was fitted the wrong cover, this shouldn't be happening.

HTH,
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Unless it was fitted the wrong cover, this shouldn't be happening.

HTH,
These are the stock covered pickups that came with my Epi LP. Maybe the holes are slightly too small.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

It makes sense to me so I do it.
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I match the neck's radius with the polepieces as a starting point to balance the output difference between strings. As I've stated before, I find it necessary to do it in the neck p'up, not really in the bridge.

What exactly did you not like?
It made the tone woofy and unpleasant for me. Too much of something. As soon as I flattened them that unpleasantness went away.

Two different occasions, I got the guitar back from a tech and couldn't figure out what it was I didn't like, what was different. When I noticed the pole pieces were raised and radiused, I screwed them back down flat and that fixed what I didn't like.

Interestingly, this was with 57 Classics both times, different guitars. I have experimented with P-90's also and I prefer them flat, too.

I don't notice a difference in volume from string to string, but I will listen for it.

Bottom line is, we like what we like, and there is no right or wrong, really.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

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It made the tone woofy and unpleasant for me. Too much of something. As soon as I flattened them that unpleasantness went away.

Two different occasions, I got the guitar back from a tech and couldn't figure out what it was I didn't like, what was different. When I noticed the pole pieces were raised and radiused, I screwed them back down flat and that fixed what I didn't like.

Interestingly, this was with 57 Classics both times, different guitars. I have experimented with P-90's also and I prefer them flat, too.

I don't notice a difference in volume from string to string, but I will listen for it.

Bottom line is, we like what we like, and there is no right or wrong, really.
If you don't have volume differences from string to string, there's no need to move the polepieces at all.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

I've never felt the need with Humbuckers. P-90s are a different story, but I wouldn't call these radiused. I'd call them adjusted to taste.

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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

I do, but they're P-90's. Never needed to with hummers.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

Thanks for all the great feedback! I probably won't radius my pole after all.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

Yes, I adjust my polepieces. No, I don't radius them.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

^^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^^^^
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

I adjust my polepieces but I didnt hear much of a difference
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

What I want is a particular benchmark/reference point. The polepieces should be equidistant from the strings. That should mean, theoretically, that the only thing differentiating their loudness would be the string thickness. I could then dial in each screw to provide compensation to the other strings until the loudness was the same. What is left is the most balanced tone imaginable, IMO.
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Re: Does anyone radius their pole pieces?

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My same experience exactly.

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Coming from you, sir, that is a great compliment! I was hoping that after 18 years of playing and 16 years of being a guitar tech that it would get me somewhere!
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