Gibson Pickup Database

[Ansen]

Have had a search throught the threads here, seems not to exist in a comprimate form..

So, here is my proposition for it, feel free to help me with your suggestions and a lot of values to complete it to a usefull form. If you like to do so..

Thx, guys

Gibson Pickup Database


Pickup/ Impedance/ Magnet/ Introduced/ Discontinued/ BasePlates/ Models used on

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Gibson PAF/ ~ 7.2 - 9.0 K/ (Al 2/3/5)/ 1955/ 1962/ 0, 1 / 1, 2
Gibson PAT NR / ~ 7.5 - 8.3 K/ xxxxxxxxx/ 1962/ 1965/ 2/ xxx/ xxx
Gibson TTops / xxxxxx/ xxxxxxxxx/ 1965/ 1980/ xx/ xxx/ xxx
Gibson Tim Shaw/ ~7.3-7.5 K/ xxxxxxxxx/ 1980/ 1988/ xx/ xxx/ 4

Gibson MiniHB / ~ 6.0 - 6.4 K/ (Al2)/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxxx

Gibson Dirty Fingers / ~ 16.0 -16.6 K/ (2xCe) xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx

Gibson HB-R/ ~ 7.06 - 9.13 K / (Al5)/ 1988/ 1990/ 6/ xxx
Gibson HB-L /~ 13.39 - 15.3 K/ (Al5)/ 1988/ 1990/ 6/ xxx

Gibson '57 Classic / ~ 7.44 - 8.5 K / (Al2) / xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson '57 ClassicPlus/ ~ 8.78 - 13.8 K (Al2)/ xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx

Gibson 490R /~ 7.2 - 8.11 K/ (Al2)/ 1990/ ongoing/ 0,3, 4/ 1, 2, 4, 7
Gibson 490T /~ 7.9 - 8.53 K/ (Al2)/ 1990/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson 496R /~ 8.3 - 8.63 K/ (Ce)/ 1990/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson 498T/~12.32 - 13.64 K/ (Al5)/ 1990/ ongoing/ 0, 3, 4/ 1, 2, 4, 7
Gibson 500T ~ 14 – 15 K / (Ce)/ 1990/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx

Gibson BB Pro / ~ 7.4 K / (Al5, potted)/xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson BB Pro / ~ 8.0 K / (Al5, potted)/ xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson BB 1 / ~ 7.5 K / (Al2) / xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson BB 2 / ~ 8.0 - 8.4 K/ (Al2)/ xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx
Gibson BB 3 / ~ 8.2 - 8.8 K / (Al2) / xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ xxx

Gibson P-90R / ~ 7.7 - 8.5 K/ (Al5) / xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx
Gibson P-90T / ~ 7.8 - 9.35 K/ (Al5)/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx
Gibson P-100R / ~ 6.1 K / (Al5) / xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx
Gibson P-100T / ~9.4 - 16.0 K/ (Al5)/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx
Gibson P-94R / ~ 8.1 K / (Al5) / xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx
Gibson P-94T / ~ 9.1 K / (Al5)/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx

Gibson Velvet Bricks / ~13 K / (Ce?)/ 1979?/ 1983?/ xx/ xxx
(made by Schaller)

Baseplate: 0= unmarked, 1= patend applied for decal, 2= patent number decal, 3= patent embossed, 4= gibson usa embossed,
5= pafdecal,datesticker, 6= pcb-back

Models used on: 1= custom, 2= standard, 3= classic, 4= studio, 5= junior, 6= special, 7= doublecut

x= no value yet


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[HOT-BRIT]

The readings on the 57 classic plus seems to be high

[HOT-BRIT]

T-tops from all years are very consistent and around 7.5 ohms

[HOT-BRIT]

Tim Shaw PAF's around 7.5 ohms

[Ansen]

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

The readings on the 57 classic plus seems to be high/ T-tops from all years are around 7.5

Mhm, i think classic/classic plus a near to 490R/498T, so , including tolerances this value maybe is an upper mark ?

Did you know,when T-Tops started and the end of produktionline ?
Did they where refered als T-Top for neck and bridge? With same DC Ohm values?

Should i position them as T-Tops in the above listing?

Where to place the Tim Shawn pups in the timeline?

The Bill Lawrence pups are the HB-R/L , right ?


I' will update the above listing once a week or so, depending to interests and assistance of you folks, feel free to copy and complete for yourself. Thx to all the guys in the internet, i borought values and informations from...This beer is for you, my friends

[HOT-BRIT]

Gibson tar back specifications:

Inductance 4.7 Henries
Resonant Peak 5.8 Khz
DC resistance 7.8 K ohms (at 1000 cps)
Impedance High
Two Active upper coils
One Ceramic Magnet (indox 7)
Adjustable pole pieces
Removeable pickup cover
2 point height adjustment

[HOT-BRIT]

Originally Posted by Ansen

Mhm, i think classic/classic plus a near to 490R/498T, so , including tolerances this value maybe is an upper mark ?

Did you know,when T-Tops started and the end of produktionline ?
Did they where refered als T-Top for neck and bridge? With same DC Ohm values?

Introduced mid sixties after the patent number sticker humbuckers and were phased out in 1980 when the Shaw's were introduced

[HOT-BRIT]

Velvet Brick Pickups
These came stock in the Sonex 180 and the Gibson "The SG" made between the years of 1979 - 1983. Often overlooked and forgotten it is now hard to find info on these pickups because everyone confuses them with the Dirty Fingers. They are similar Zebra black and Cream open coil humbuckers with screw pole pieces onthe balck side and flat pole pieces on the Cram - but the clearest difference is that they have 3 adjustable mounting screws - two on one side and one on the other. they are also made in Germany - not the USA. I read an article once with Willem Lorenz aka Bill Lawrence that said while he was working for Gibson he had these custom sound to his specs by Schaller in West Germany. They are very Hot pickups but still very toneful. I don't know the exact output but must be at least 13K. Sort of the polar opposite of a PAF - if you like the Dirty Fingers you will love these. they are excellent pickups

[HOT-BRIT]

An interesting fact that a lot of people do not know, Gibson announced their new humbucking pickup code named PU-490 in the summer 1957, now known as PAF's.
So when Gibson introduced there new Modern Classic Humbuckers in 1990 they used the 490 name again.

[Ansen]

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

An interesting fact that a lot of people do not know, Gibson announced their new humbucking pickup code named PU-490 in the summer 1957. So when Gibson introduced there new Modern Classic Humbuckers in 1990 they used the 490 name again.

I read something about 1976' 490R, it was some output challenge sheet with SD's for comparsion, but dont remember exactly where..

Btw..sometimes i think, classics/classic plus are just the 490R/498T's with alnico 5 instead of alnico 2...remember my 57'er worn baseplated 490R PAF

[HOT-BRIT]

Super Humbucker type C. Output is roughly 1.5X an original Gibson Humbucker. By comparison, a DiMarzio Super II is about 2X an original Gibson Humbucker.

There are no adjustable polepieces (which is part of the reason you don't see screws poking through the cover).

Each pickup uses 3 Indox 7 magnets -- these are a type of ceramic magnet, but they're smaller than normal and used in a way to get more power out of a smaller magnet (greater efficiency, yada yada). So it's not a typical ceramic magnet pickup at all.

The bottom (under) plate is brass.

The cover (except for the black ones and maybe *including* the black ones) was nickel silver.

They were potted in epoxy rather than wax.

[HOT-BRIT]

Bill Lawrence joined thev Gibson company in 1971 he was originally asked to design a "multi sound" system for the SG, but wanted to build a completely different guitar instead, and that ended up being the L6S though that guitar as it was produced was quite different from the guitar Lawrence designed. The Super Humbucker was designed for the L6S by Bill Lawrence

[Ansen]

sounds terrific... i imagine, these are the pups of michael j. fox's guitar, thats whil he smashes the speaker back to the future..

[garybaldy]

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

The readings on the 57 classic plus seems to be high

According to the Gibson pu chart that i have seen,the 57 br is hotter than the BB Pro br.

[HOT-BRIT]

if any of you guys have a 57 Classic Plus could you check them with a meter and post your results here

[onegoodtrick]

New guy with a meter.Pulled a set of pups out of an '05 STD DC a few weeks ago I "believe" are 57 Classic and Classic Plus.Glad I logged on and saw this thread. I was looking to shoot the numbers as I just thought they were the 490R/498T set typically OE from Gibson until I pulled them to ready the axe for a new set from Wagner.Pulled the bridge and was greeted with a "Patented Applied For" decal - same for the neck.Still gets my chino's churn'n when the little sticker pops up unexpectedly.Wax potted.As per my limited experence with the 490/498 set - neck not bad,fair content,okydoky dynamics.I like it.Bridge - great for someone else's axe.Middle - goodish.

Just shot the numbers -
Bridge 9.8
Neck 7.8

Hope that helps.To my knowledge,Gibson only puts the PAF
stickers on the 57's and BurstBuckers but these are potted,
believe the BB are not.I attempt to play more than memorize
specs so all insight is well recieved here.

I like it here,thanks for having me. Destry

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

if any of you guys have a 57 Classic Plus could you check them with a meter and post your results here

[Actinic]

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

Velvet Brick Pickups
These came stock in the Sonex 180 and the Gibson "The SG" made between the years of 1979 - 1983.

One is available on ebay, but the three feet would make it a pain to install, right?

eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

[fairlanericky]

Got a Shaw set from an 84 Studio.




what's left of the ink stamp on the bridge pup.







Ric

[HOT-BRIT]

Originally Posted by Actinic

One is available on ebay, but the three feet would make it a pain to install, right?

eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

you would have to adapt them

[HOT-BRIT]

Originally Posted by Ansen

Mhm, i think classic/classic plus a near to 490R/498T, so , including tolerances this value maybe is an upper mark ?

Did you know,when T-Tops started and the end of produktionline ?
Did they where refered als T-Top for neck and bridge? With same DC Ohm values?

Should i position them as T-Tops in the above listing?

Where to place the Tim Shawn pups in the timeline?

The Bill Lawrence pups are the HB-R/L , right ?


I' will update the above listing once a week or so, depending to interests and assistance of you folks, feel free to copy and complete for yourself. Thx to all the guys in the internet, i borought values and informations from...This beer is for you, my friends

not made in USA on the baseplate, has PAF decals, has the correct resistance for a 57 Classic and 57 Classic plus, but wax potted, 57 are not usually potted, BB's and 490 can be either potted or not potted

[LtKojak]

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

if any of you guys have a 57 Classic Plus could you check them with a meter and post your results here

My '57 Classic Plus measures 8.78K @ 20°C/68°F.

HTH,

[335Reasons]

57 Classics/Plus are Alnico 2 not 5.

[garybaldy]

Originally Posted by Actinic

One is available on ebay, but the three feet would make it a pain to install, right?

eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

Does anyone know if pickup mounts are available with 3 holes pls.
I have a vester 335 style with a broken mount
Cheers

[Ansen]

Originally Posted by 335Reasons

57 Classics/Plus are Alnico 2 not 5.

done. That places the 490R nearer to the classic, then i exspected before

Originally Posted by LtKojak

My '57 Classic Plus measures 8.78K @ 20°C/68°F.



HTH,

done. Hope, you hold the temperatur

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

not made in USA on the baseplate, has PAF decals, has the correct resistance for a 57 Classic and 57 Classic plus, but wax potted, 57 are not usually potted, BB's and 490 can be either potted or not potted

The 490R (classic-like baseplate, no decall) in my 92' Studio is potted. The one in my 98 'DC not. Maybe they did to some 57' also?

Its also unusual for the GIBSON USA section to build one-piece-backs, but the did and do..

Did the Classics hit the market at the same time as the 490R/490T/496R/498T/500T did ?

[335Reasons]

Here is Gibson Pickup Guide

[Ansen]

Thx to you

unfortunality there are no values or dates in this sheet, but its usefull, also.


HMM.. is it normal, that i cant edit my startpost yet ?


Here the actualized version

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Gibson Pickup Database


Pickup/ Impedance/ Magnet/ Introduced/ Discontinued/ BasePlates/ Covers/ Models used on
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Gibson PAF/ ~ 7.2 - 9.0 K/ Al 2,3,5/ 1955/ 1962/ 0, 1 / N G/ 1, 2
Gibson PAT NR / ~ 7.5 - 8.3 K/ xxxxxxxxx/ 1962/ 1965/ 2/ xxx/ N G/ xxx
Gibson TTops / xxxxxx/ xxxxxxxxx/ 1965/ 1980/ xx/ xxx/ xxx/ xxx
Gibson Tim Shaw/ ~7.3-7.5 K/ xxxxxxxxx/ 1980/ 1988/ xx/ 4/ xxx/ 4

Gibson MiniHB / ~ 6.0 - 6.4 K/ Al2, wax/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx/ xxx/ xxx/ xxx

Gibson Dirty Fingers / ~ 16.0 -16.6 K/ 2xCe, wax xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx/ xxx

Gibson HB-R/ ~ 7.06 - 9.13 K / Al5/ 1988/ 1990/ 7/ xxx/ xxx
Gibson HB-L /~ 13.39 - 15.3 K/ Al5/ 1988/ 1990/ 7/ xxx/ xxx

Gibson '57 Classic / ~ 7.44 - 8.5 K / Al2, wax / xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N, B, Z/ xxx
Gibson '57 ClassicPlus/ ~ 8.78 - 13.8 K/ Al2, wax/ xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N, B, Z/ xxx

Gibson 490R /~ 7.2 - 8.11 K/ Al2, wax/ 1990/ ongoing/ 0,3, 5/ C, G, N, B, Z/ 1, 2, 4, 7
Gibson 490T /~ 7.9 - 8.53 K/ Al2, wax/ 1990/ ongoing/ xx/ C, G, N, B, Z/ xxx
Gibson 496R /~ 8.3 - 8.63 K/ Ce, wax/ 1990/ ongoing/ xx/ B, Z/ xxx
Gibson 498T/~12.32 - 13.64 K/ Al5, wax/ 1990/ ongoing/ 0, 3, 5/ C, G, N, B, Z/ 1, 2, 4, 7
Gibson 500T ~ 14 – 15 K / Ce, wax/ 1990/ ongoing/ xx/ B, Z/ xxx

Gibson BB Pro / ~ 7.4 K / Al5, wax/xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N/ xxx
Gibson BB Pro / ~ 8.0 K / Al5, wax/ xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N/ xxx
Gibson BB 1 / ~ 7.5 K / Al2 / xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N, B, Z/ xxx
Gibson BB 2 / ~ 8.0 - 8.4 K/ Al2/ xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N, B, Z/ xxx
Gibson BB 3 / ~ 8.2 - 8.8 K / Al2 / xxxx/ ongoing/ xx/ G, N, B, Z/ xxx

Gibson P-90R / ~ 7.7 - 8.5 K/ Al5, wax/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ BS, CS, BD, CD/ xxx
Gibson P-90T / ~ 7.8 - 9.35 K/ Al5, wax/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ BS, CS, BD, CD/ xxx
Gibson P-100R / ~ 6.1 K / Al5 / xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx/ xxx
Gibson P-100T / ~9.4 - 16.0 K/ Al5/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ xxx/ xxx
Gibson P-94R / ~ 8.1 K / Al5, wax / xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ CC, BC, CG, BG/ xxx
Gibson P-94T / ~ 9.1 K / Al5, wax/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ CC, BC, CG, BG/ xxx

Tommy Iommi / / ~ xxxx K / Al2 & CE, wax/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ C, B/ xxx
Angus Young / / ~ xxxx K / Al5, wax/ xxxx/ xxxx/ xx/ N/ xxx

Gibson Velvet Bricks / ~13 K / Ce?/ 1979?/ 1983?/ xx/ xxx/ xxx
made by Schaller


Baseplate: 0= unmarked, 1= patend applied for decal, 2= patent number decal, 3= patent embossed, 4= patent embossed, inkstamp,
5= gibson usa embossed, 6= pafdecal,datesticker, 7= pcb-back,

Models used on: 1= custom, 2= standard, 3= classic, 4= studio, 5= junior, 6= special, 7= doublecut, 8= deluxe

Covers: C= chrome, N= nickel, G= gold, Z= zebra, B= black ,
BS= black soapbar, CS= creme soapbar, BD= black dogear, CD= creme dogear,
BC= black/chrome, CC= creme/chrome,BG= black/gold, CG= creme/(gold

x= no value yet


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[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by HOT-BRIT

The readings on the 57 classic plus seems to be high

That's what you get when copy/pasting a roughdraft of current production Gibson/Epiphone pickup DC-resistance chart I made up a few years ago.

The addition of vintage PAF/Shaws, and the ommision of the Epiphones don't mask the mistakes. Nice try tho.

[HOT-BRIT]

Originally Posted by LtKojak

My '57 Classic Plus measures 8.78K @ 20°C/68°F.

HTH,

yes dont know were the 13.8 comes in

[HOT-BRIT]

Originally Posted by Ansen

done. That places the 490R nearer to the classic, then i exspected before



done. Hope, you hold the temperatur




The 490R (classic-like baseplate, no decall) in my 92' Studio is potted. The one in my 98 'DC not. Maybe they did to some 57' also?

Its also unusual for the GIBSON USA section to build one-piece-backs, but the did and do..

Did the Classics hit the market at the same time as the 490R/490T/496R/498T/500T did ?

yes

[HOT-BRIT]

Originally Posted by Ricochet

That's what you get when copy/pasting a roughdraft of current production Gibson/Epiphone pickup DC-resistance chart I made up a few years ago.

The addition of vintage PAF/Shaws, and the ommision of the Epiphones don't mask the mistakes. Nice try tho.

plagiarism