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Unread 04-13-2012, 12:41 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

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I guess "nice" is a subjective term, honestly I think those who are looking for this monumentous difference in the JB set and other well crafted PAF replicas are in for a big disappointment. I would NOT look for this earthshaking tone to come leaping forth from the amp! And that's the way it should be! People that are comparing the cost, and yes they are a bit pricey, against the sound, again are going to be in for a big disappointment. I think that's totally the wrong way to look at these pickups.

Like Frank said, there is no one PAF sound, there are many PAF sounds, all different, all unique to THAT pickup, and again you can't hear a pickup without a player picking the strings, and THAT makes a huge difference in the tone and overall sound as well.

I would expect more of a comparable sound to the Seth Lover, or the Antiquity, I would expect these pickups to fall right in that neighborhood, with just slight differences in them. With a full pedalboard and effects in the signal chain, would you notice the difference in the bonamassa, the Seth, Antiquity? My guess would be probably not.

I haven't even opened the box on mine yet, I set it on the shelf, will wait out some reviews and clips. I am not expecting my Les Paul to sound like Joe B is playing it when and if I do install them, I am expecting it to sound like a real sweet set of PAF replicas.
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Unread 04-13-2012, 01:33 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

Those sound an awful lot like '59s to me...

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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

Whether made to spec like a vintage PAF or not, Joe, on his web videos, says his SD pickups SOUND exactly like his #1 1959 LP. So, I think the SOUND of the pickups, irrespective of design, is probably most important?? To me it would be. They are pricey, though...

On a funny side note, when discussing if a pickup "sounds" like a vintage pickup (just for info sake): I have an old 74 Tele with the original Seth Lover designed "Wide Range Humbuckers." On the Fender sites, there are lots of discussions about how the reissue Wide Range Humbuckers sound nothing like the originals. Well, they don't. And, up until last week, I had not heard any pickups that did. However, interestingly enough, I recently picked up a Reverend Volcano to indulge my V fetish... The pickups sound REMARKABLY like the old original Wide Range Humbuckers. Freakin' weird! But awesome!

Anyway, to come full circle, if I wanted the sound Joe B gets from the pickups in his vintage LP, I would try to find a set that sounds, not looks, like them... Like his SD ones maybe? Who cares how they are made?
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

The pickups sound great from t¡the very few videos posted, still waiting for someone to do a proper Joe B sound and playing to really show what they can deliver!.

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Whether made to spec like a vintage PAF or not, Joe, on his web videos, says his SD pickups SOUND exactly like his #1 1959 LP. So, I think the SOUND of the pickups, irrespective of design, is probably most important?? To me it would be. They are pricey, though...

On a funny side note, when discussing if a pickup "sounds" like a vintage pickup (just for info sake): I have an old 74 Tele with the original Seth Lover designed "Wide Range Humbuckers." On the Fender sites, there are lots of discussions about how the reissue Wide Range Humbuckers sound nothing like the originals. Well, they don't. And, up until last week, I had not heard any pickups that did. However, interestingly enough, I recently picked up a Reverend Volcano to indulge my V fetish... The pickups sound REMARKABLY like the old original Wide Range Humbuckers. Freakin' weird! But awesome!

Anyway, to come full circle, if I wanted the sound Joe B gets from the pickups in his vintage LP, I would try to find a set that sounds, not looks, like them... Like his SD ones maybe? Who cares how they are made?
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

Just install the jb pickups #34 in my 1999 r9. They sound really sweet. Sure there a bit pricey but what isn't costing big $$$$ in today's economy. If Joe put his stamp on them
you know there a good pickup.

I think Joe's a straight shooter no bullshit kind of guy ..he tells it like it is. I trust his word
and my ears can vouch for that.
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

I got set #0015 on the 2nd (April). They are very clear & clean sounding, but I haven't been able to get an amp to break-up with them even after spending about 1/2 hour tweaking the heights & poles. I'm going to either try swaping magnets or just put my ThroBak SLE-101+ MXV's back in.
I don't like the covers at all and in fact I put a couple of aged ThroBak covers on them. Seymour's covers are too square on the corners and there's no dimples around the poles and the bottom of the covers flare out. They look more like the current Gibson covers. Joe says that he always notices that PAF's have aged/rusty poles and that's all that's aged on these. They didn't even age the whole head of the pole screw.
Like I said, these are very clear and have a nice bottom end to them.
I will give them high marks for the packaging though. Each pickup comes wrapped in black tissue paper and is placed inside a nice little velvet looking bag with draw strings. The back is signed by Joe & Seymour and has a PAF looking decal that says "Bonamassa" and a sticker with the # written on it. They come in a nice black box with a flash drive stick that has info and a short video on how they were done. They have an Alnico II in the neck and an Alnico III in the bridge. The Neck on mine is 7.56K d.c. & the Bridge is 8.2K d.c.
But.. what I wanted was great/amazing sounding PAF clones, Not fancy packaging
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Honest review!

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I got set #0015 on the 2nd (April). They are very clear & clean sounding, but I haven't been able to get an amp to break-up with them even after spending about 1/2 hour tweaking the heights & poles. I'm going to either try swaping magnets or just put my ThroBak SLE-101+ MXV's back in.
I don't like the covers at all and in fact I put a couple of aged ThroBak covers on them. Seymour's covers are too square on the corners and there's no dimples around the poles and the bottom of the covers flare out. They look more like the current Gibson covers. Joe says that he always notices that PAF's have aged/rusty poles and that's all that's aged on these. They didn't even age the whole head of the pole screw.
Like I said, these are very clear and have a nice bottom end to them.
I will give them high marks for the packaging though. Each pickup comes wrapped in black tissue paper and is placed inside a nice little velvet looking bag with draw strings. The back is signed by Joe & Seymour and has a PAF looking decal that says "Bonamassa" and a sticker with the # written on it. They come in a nice black box with a flash drive stick that has info and a short video on how they were done. They have an Alnico II in the neck and an Alnico III in the bridge. The Neck on mine is 7.56K d.c. & the Bridge is 8.2K d.c.
But.. what I wanted was great/amazing sounding PAF clones, Not fancy packaging
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I got mine about a week ago. While they are not powerful pickups, they are super clear. I am suprised by the clarity in the neck position and the bridge sounds very bluesbreakers . They are very balanded and the out of phase position (I modded them them) screams. They kick my Throbak DT102 completely out of the game.
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Thats funny....pure money deal, my guess.... Joe's favorite PU's ARE NOT Seymour Duncan.....just ask around what he has in his non vintage instruments.
I'm interested !! What pickups does Joe use in his non vintage instruments ?
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A/B'd on Youtube
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I'm interested !! What pickups does Joe use in his non vintage instruments ?
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Some have been refinished by Kim at HM and his signature pickups installed. Some others have real PAF's.
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Some have been refinished by Kim at HM and his signature pickups installed. Some others have real PAF's.
Some say he uses ThroBaks - any truth to that?
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That video was not a very good sound reference. It literally hurt to listen to it, but I thought the second guitar with the stock pickups sounded better IMHO
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Some say he uses ThroBaks - any truth to that?
Ask J.G at Throbak, he can give you a detailed answer!
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Some say he uses ThroBaks - any truth to that?
He might. It used to be JB would use what ever the guitar came with, but I also remember him using original PAF's in a couple reissues. Or a mixture. AFAIK These days the only reissue that hasn't been messed with is his Rossington LP.
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

Hi

I got a '99 R9 and it has Gibson classic 57 pickup. What sound difference should I expect on my reissu 59 with a upgrade to thoses pickups ?

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I got mine about a week ago. While they are not powerful pickups, they are super clear. I am suprised by the clarity in the neck position and the bridge sounds very bluesbreakers . They are very balanded and the out of phase position (I modded them them) screams. They kick my Throbak DT102 completely out of the game.
Are they wax potted?
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Are they wax potted?
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Comparing to Gibson Classic 57 ?
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@ TM1,

Why take out Throbaks for SDs?
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

I got a set of these and put them in my '88 Standard. They sound very much like a set of PAFs to me. The bridge is crisp but not shrill and the mid position is clear and very musical and useable to me. The neck is surprisingly clear an useable too. To get the full effect, I used PIO caps and '50s wiring. It makes a big difference as that is how Joe's fiddle is wired. I'm keeping them in this one...
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Comparing to Gibson Classic 57 ?
I for one already know i would take the 57's anyday over the JB set
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As many pointed out, even Frank from SD said it, this ARE NOT PAF REPLICAS! so they should be treated like that, not replicas.

90% of Joe Bonamassa's tone is in his hands.... 5% is on the real vintage Burst Les Paul and the rest 5% is on his amps and shit, so......

How could this pickups sound like Joe's tone on an SG or an Epiphone or a Historic?

His shit contributes to his tone?


I'd hate to be his tech
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Seymour Duncan Pickups - YouTube
Joe talks about matching the test guitar by weight and neck shape of his 59 to test the 4 sets of prototypes (played thru a Marshall Bluesbreaker)that they picked out the bridge/neck winners.
So who has that test guitar?
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I find it odd that we spend thousands on guitars, but when a critical element like pickups come out, some turn into misers over a couple bucks. Duncan custom shop pickups are typically $160 for one or $300 a set. A Joe B set at $350 is only $25 more per pickup for a set co-designed and approved by Joe himself. That's a pretty good deal to me if they sound the part. I actually want to try a set but I need another guitar to do so.
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I find it odd that we spend thousands on guitars, but when a critical element like pickups come out, some turn into misers over a couple bucks. Duncan custom shop pickups are typically $160 for one or $300 a set. A Joe B set at $350 is only $25 more per pickup for a set co-designed and approved by Joe himself. That's a pretty good deal to me if they sound the part.
Exactly.

A Tom Holmes set going for $ 800 is alright, but the ground-breaking design by Seymour Duncan wound with specially ordered Silver wire known as Zephyr, going for a little bit more is a no-no.

Man, are guitar players a bunch of hypocrite, ignorant morons!
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Exactly.

A Tom Holmes set going for $ 800 is alright, but the ground-breaking design by Seymour Duncan wound with specially ordered Silver wire known as Zephyr, going for a little bit more is a no-no.

Man, are guitar players a bunch of hypocrite, ignorant morons!
I have traditionally not been a Duncan player in my short time playing. I sort of had this preconceived notion about what Duncans were like. The more I learned and tried, the more respect I have gained for his products. I was going to pull the trigger on a Joe B. set, but instead went for the JP set ( whole lotta humbuckers). Perhaps Seymour has spoiled us all these years with great PAF-ish tone (JB's and 59's) that we now have come to expect his offerings for bargain prices. Kudos to him for trying to be innovative with the Zephyr instead of continually rehashing the old PAF variations. There is nothing wrong with marketing his Joe B's and making a PROFIT. He has employees to pay, taxes, general day to day operating costs etc. All made in the US of A. He was the only one who thought of Seth Lover when he wasn't doing well financially and tried to help him and his family as well as respect his knowledge. I have a ton of respect for SD. Just my 0.02c
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Re: Seymour Duncan Joe Bonamassa Signature Pickup Set

+1

I really like the demo's of the JB set.

ATM I only have 1 LP, but if I get another humbucking one I will try the JB's for sure.

A very different sound from the Page SD's- more of that hollow vintage sound.

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