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Unread 05-26-2011, 11:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gibson classic '57 pickups

Hey guys, I have an Gibby Les paul Studio that I bought fairly recently. The problem i seem to be having is that the pickups in it (I believe its the 498T 490R Combo) just seem to be a little too harsh(for lack of a better term). I play alot of Classic Rock like guns'n'roses type of stuff and they don't really seem to sound all that great, I also have an Epi les paul custom and that sounds pretty good if that helps any. Does anyone know of a pickup that is a little more creamy but still with a decent amount of output? I've heard from a local music shop owner that a good option would be the gibson classic '57's. While i don't think i've ever played them, the videos on youtube that i've seen sound exactly like what i'm looking for. Do you guys think this is the route I should be taking? or is there a better pickup that is similar to the classic '57's?

I've played for 8 years, but i've always just been content with stock pickups in my guitars so any advice would be great! Thanks guys!
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

If you have the stock electronics be sure to change them.
Some 500kOhm pots and PIO caps can work miracles
Thoose tiny ceramic stock caps makes everything sound harsh IMO.
I like the 57 classics they're nice.
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

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Hey guys, I have an Gibby Les paul Studio that I bought fairly recently. The problem i seem to be having is that the pickups in it (I believe its the 498T 490R Combo) just seem to be a little too harsh(for lack of a better term). I play alot of Classic Rock like guns'n'roses type of stuff and they don't really seem to sound all that great, I also have an Epi les paul custom and that sounds pretty good if that helps any. Does anyone know of a pickup that is a little more creamy but still with a decent amount of output? I've heard from a local music shop owner that a good option would be the gibson classic '57's. While i don't think i've ever played them, the videos on youtube that i've seen sound exactly like what i'm looking for. Do you guys think this is the route I should be taking? or is there a better pickup that is similar to the classic '57's?

I've played for 8 years, but i've always just been content with stock pickups in my guitars so any advice would be great! Thanks guys!
If you change the magnets of those p'ups with an A4 in the neck and an A8 in the bridge, that will get what you want and then some.

AddictionFX in the place to get the mags, use the search to find the various tutorials in mag swapping in the very forum.

Halfn'hour job and set you back 'bout ten bucks. THEN you'll really hear what a REAL Gibson LP sounds like.

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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

I have to agree with the lolly pop king up top. Mag swaps are a great start. I am not a huge fan of Gibby pups but the swap does work miracles. The problem I have with Gibby pups is that they are almost there just missing something. I would get a new harness and do the mag swap first but instead of the 4 go with an A2 in the neck.
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

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I have to agree with the lolly pop king up top. Mag swaps are a great start. I am not a huge fan of Gibby pups but the swap does work miracles. The problem I have with Gibby pups is that they are almost there just missing something. I would get a new harness and do the mag swap first but instead of the 4 go with an A2 in the neck.
The Gibson 57classics already have Alnico 2 magnets
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

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I have to agree with the lolly pop king up top. Mag swaps are a great start. I am not a huge fan of Gibby pups but the swap does work miracles. The problem I have with Gibby pups is that they are almost there just missing something. I would get a new harness and do the mag swap first but instead of the 4 go with an A2 in the neck.
A2 in neck and A8 in bridge work ok eq-wise, but their magnetic strenght are a bit too far apart, if you ask me... that's also why I've never proposed it to anybody.

OTOH, A4/A8 is a much more balanced combo, both eq-wise than magnetic strengh-wise.

You're a winder, Capt. Make a prototype set, winding a low 7Ks neck and high 8K bridge PAF style with #42 AWG PE and fill it with "my" mag combo and tell me what you think.

It sounds particulary well in an all-maple and/or mahogany neck/maple body 335 copy or in a LP Standard. The "chirp" produced by this mag combo is just to die for.

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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

Of all of the Gibson 'buckers I've tried the 57 Classic/Classic + combo is my favorite.
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

Thanks guys! That helps a ton!
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

I think i'm going to try switching out the Magnets first and then if that doesn't work switch out the pups, probably to the '57 '57+ combo. But First i need to find the magnets, This may seem like a stupid question but I honestly don't know where to find them. Anyone Know? I've only ever switched out pickups for people, never swapped the magnets. Is it something i could find at a luthiers shop/music store? Thanks!
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

As LtKojak mentioned, try AddictionFX (that's the magnet-seller's ebay username). Great guy, great prices, fast service!
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

oh! ok, i misunderstood it. Thanks so much!
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

I just traded an '07 Classic Custom with '57 classics and I loved them. I like to play the same style as you and they seemed to do the trick very nicely. No complaints at all. The guy that has it now is more into the heavier stuff/shredding and he even likes them for that. '57's are definitely not a bad choice in my book.
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Re: Gibson classic '57 pickups

Thanks dude! ya, i actually went and tried a pair of classic '57's and i LOVED them. so i think if changing the magnets don't work like i want, I'm definitely going to go and grab some '57's!!! Thanks!
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A2 in neck and A8 in bridge work ok eq-wise, but their magnetic strenght are a bit too far apart, if you ask me... that's also why I've never proposed it to anybody.

OTOH, A4/A8 is a much more balanced combo, both eq-wise than magnetic strengh-wise.

You're a winder, Capt. Make a prototype set, winding a low 7Ks neck and high 8K bridge PAF style with #42 AWG PE and fill it with "my" mag combo and tell me what you think.

It sounds particulary well in an all-maple and/or mahogany neck/maple body 335 copy or in a LP Standard. The "chirp" produced by this mag combo is just to die for.

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Thats funny you say that cause I am coming out with a PAF type wind with A* in both neck and bridge. Kind of an omage to the Super 70 pickup.
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Thats funny you say that cause I am coming out with a PAF type wind with A* in both neck and bridge. Kind of an omage to the Super 70 pickup.
I DID try A8 in the neck spot.

Didn't like it. Why? Let me tell you this way: imagine a singer that's so good that's able to sing every Michael Jackson's hit song with Pavarotti's voice... even if it's a technical and performing prowess, musically speaking, feels kinda... misplaced, for the lack of a better word to describe it.

UOA5 is more indicated for the neck spot, but my favorite still is A4, followed by A2 and in very dark guitars, A3, paired up with A4 in the bridge.

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