Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal?

Benguitar · 10-30-2009, 11:36 PM

Alright, So I'm using a Mesa Boogie Road King halfstack, I already have my presets dialed in to how I want them but I need something.. The only way I can describe it is "I want something that will tighten up my distortion" or "enhance" it. NOT and I repeat NOT a volume boost.

I'm sorta leaning towards a MXR pedal but getting like 2-3 of them so I can set them up differently and basically "pre-set" them. (Over all goal is to eliminate Boss ME50 from my pedalboard, for a more complex and more precise effects loop)

So I will stick to distortion/overdrive/gain on this thread. I need something that will basically take my "rhythm" distortion and change it to something more suited for the "riff" of the song.

Maybe a EQ pedal is what I need? I'm sorta lost when it comes to EQ pedals, Seeing that the ONLY pedalboard I've used is my ME50.. Not that it's bad but it has VERY limited control over it's effects.

So, Any ideas?

Edit-

Or maybe, Should I request a custom built pedal from one of MLP's members? That'd be kinda cool.. Like a prototype.

BTW- I've looked at Seymour Duncan, EHX, MXR. They are my three preferred companies. I'm not too crazy about Boss, I think they aren't "amazing" quality. EHX didn't seem like they had anything that would do what I need it to do, Plus they are VERY pricy. I've tried a SD Twin Tube Classic. I returned it the same day because it didn't sound good with my ME50 *duh* I haven't owned any MXR stuff.. Except two Wah-Wah's..

rodneyk915 · 10-31-2009, 10:07 AM

I know what you mean about getting away from the ME50. I went from pedals to a gt-6 to simplify things a few years ago. Now I'm re-buying/building pedals to get away from the gt-6. I picked up a Fulltone OCD v.4 and really like the distortion/overdrive it puts out. Very tight with nice harmonics.

Benguitar · 10-31-2009, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneyk915

I know what you mean about getting away from the ME50. I went from pedals to a gt-6 to simplify things a few years ago. Now I'm re-buying/building pedals to get away from the gt-6. I picked up a Fulltone OCD v.4 and really like the distortion/overdrive it puts out. Very tight with nice harmonics.

Nice pedal, I looked at it on ProGuitarShop.com

I'm not sure if it has enough gain/distortion in it though.. But I'll definitely keep that one in the back of my mind.

I've been looking at MXR's new Fullbore Metal pedal.. It has over the top DS/OD but with a 3 band EQ and etc, I was wondering if I may be able to "turn it down" so that it only tightens up a little bit without totally "METAL-ING" my tone?

zeppelin101 · 10-31-2009, 10:50 AM

barber electronics. Their direct drive gets dirty when you pull the push pull pot and doesnt get metally it sorta has great lead tones and colors tube amps nicely. I love mine atleast check it out

Direct Drive

They have other ones too. They are made in the US and are about 120ish?

Benguitar · 10-31-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zeppelin101

barber electronics. Their direct drive gets dirty when you pull the push pull pot and doesnt get metally it sorta has great lead tones and colors tube amps nicely. I love mine atleast check it out

Direct Drive

They have other ones too. They are made in the US and are about 120ish?

Again, Not a bad pedal, I'm a little more drawn to the dirty bomb by Barber Electronics. But I'm gonna go try out some pedals today so, I will update you guys later!

Gibsonblues · 10-31-2009, 03:04 PM

I'm not sure what type of music your playing but from the setup I'd guess hard rock, maybe a little metal type. If so, have a look at the Hardwire TL-2. I bought this one a few days ago and I think it is killer. Huge wall of sound! I found this video comparing the TL-2 to the Dirty Bomb since you mentioned that one and one other... Good luck ....

YouTube - Barber Dirty Bomb vs Hardwire TL-2 Metal Distortion

YouTube - Digitech Hardwire Metal Distortion

Benguitar · 10-31-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibsonblues

I'm not sure what type of music your playing but from the setup I'd guess hard rock, maybe a little metal type. If so, have a look at the Hardwire TL-2. I bought this one a few days ago and I think it is killer. Huge wall of sound! I found this video comparing the TL-2 to the Dirty Bomb since you mentioned that one and one other... Good luck ....

Thanks, But no thanks. I went to my local GC and I tried out one of those MXR Zakk Wylde Overdrives. PERFECT for what I need.

Gibsonblues · 10-31-2009, 03:26 PM

I wasn't too crazy bout the MXR but I'm glad you like it. They seem to be popular....

Benguitar · 10-31-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibsonblues

I wasn't too crazy bout the MXR but I'm glad you like it. They seem to be popular....

Yeah, The Wylde Overdrive ISN'T a "main distortion/overdrive pedal" it is made to be an "enhancement pedal" which was exactly what I'm looking for was a pedal that wouldn't serve AS my distortion but mainly just enhance it.

I wish the Fullbore Metal Pedal would have worked because it has a built-in noise gate but even with the gain turned all the way down it was just TOO much.. I tried the MXR Distortion III, Not bad. I may use it for another enhancement pedal but the Wylde Overdrive is on the top of my list so far.

Edit-

*completely off topic*

I made a "spoof" video today of my "Slash Tone" I was screwing around my my tone today and I whipped this up in a couple minutes. I'll probably perfect it later, But anyway incase anyone is interested...

http://gallery.me.com/benguitar#100057

I know, A bit TOO distorted and close but not "perfect."

(Just goes to show how noisy Boss Pedals are...)

Gibsonblues · 10-31-2009, 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=Benguitar;1257214]Yeah, The Wylde Overdrive ISN'T a "main distortion/overdrive pedal" it is made to be an "enhancement pedal" which was exactly what I'm looking for was a pedal that wouldn't serve AS my distortion but mainly just enhance it.

I wish the Fullbore Metal Pedal would have worked because it has a built-in noise gate but even with the gain turned all the way down it was just TOO much.. I tried the MXR Distortion III, Not bad. I may use it for another enhancement pedal but the Wylde Overdrive is on the top of my list so far."

I didn't know that about the Wylde model! I'm glad it is what you were looking for in sound

I looked at the Fullbore and it looks like a nice pedal but I really liked the TL-2. It can be a little extreme but it has some nice tweakable EQ settings on it. Kinda in your face but I know it's not for everyone. I like the Brownie that I've got but it's not a metal pedal. My modded DS-1 is killer but its not quite as tweakable as the Hardwire. Have fun with that new pedal! Later...

Benguitar · 10-31-2009, 07:37 PM

[quote=Gibsonblues;1257481]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benguitar

Yeah, The Wylde Overdrive ISN'T a "main distortion/overdrive pedal" it is made to be an "enhancement pedal" which was exactly what I'm looking for was a pedal that wouldn't serve AS my distortion but mainly just enhance it.

I wish the Fullbore Metal Pedal would have worked because it has a built-in noise gate but even with the gain turned all the way down it was just TOO much.. I tried the MXR Distortion III, Not bad. I may use it for another enhancement pedal but the Wylde Overdrive is on the top of my list so far."

I didn't know that about the Wylde model! I'm glad it is what you were looking for in sound

I looked at the Fullbore and it looks like a nice pedal but I really liked the TL-2. It can be a little extreme but it has some nice tweakable EQ settings on it. Kinda in your face but I know it's not for everyone. I like the Brownie that I've got but it's not a metal pedal. My modded DS-1 is killer but its not quite as tweakable as the Hardwire. Have fun with that new pedal! Later...

I will, When I get it.. I'm making my X-Mas list early.. Seeing that my birthday is the 29th of December..

Gibsonblues · 10-31-2009, 07:51 PM

.....

My wife's BD in on December 27 so I always have to make sure she has several packages to open. Too bad she doesn't play guitar or I would get her some pedals!

Later....

Benguitar · 10-31-2009, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibsonblues

.....

My wife's BD in on December 27 so I always have to make sure she has several packages to open. Too bad she doesn't play guitar or I would get her some pedals!

Later....

Who says she has to play guitar for you to get her some pedals?

Gibsonblues · 10-31-2009, 08:52 PM

guysmiley · 11-02-2009, 06:59 PM

I'd try a compressor or an Overdrive with a good EQ on it. an Eq might work, but it sounds like you need a bit more bit or fizz on top of your tone.

snaredrum · 11-02-2009, 07:13 PM

if you like your rhythm distortion sound, do what i did and get a mark I Marshall Guv'nor pedal. it doesn't sound incredible on it's own, but as a boost it sounds ace. i use mine to get harmonic feedback as well.

Benguitar · 11-02-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guysmiley

I'd try a compressor or an Overdrive with a good EQ on it. an Eq might work, but it sounds like you need a bit more bit or fizz on top of your tone.

Yeah maybe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaredrum

if you like your rhythm distortion sound, do what i did and get a mark I Marshall Guv'nor pedal. it doesn't sound incredible on it's own, but as a boost it sounds ace. i use mine to get harmonic feedback as well.

Sounds good, I don't know what I can and can't do though, Some family issues came up and I don't know if I'll be upgrading or even playing much anymore.

:-\

snaredrum · 11-02-2009, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benguitar

Sounds good, I don't know what I can and can't do though, Some family issues came up and I don't know if I'll be upgrading or even playing much anymore.

:-\

that sucks, man. hope it works out for you

Benguitar · 11-02-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaredrum

that sucks, man. hope it works out for you

Thanks, I hope so too..

I'm 16, My father just walked out on us. So... I'm gonna play guitar some, I'm a bit nervous about possibly losing all my gear..

snaredrum · 11-02-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benguitar

Thanks, I hope so too..

I'm 16, My father just walked out on us. So... I'm gonna play guitar some, I'm a bit nervous about possibly losing all my gear..

how you going to lose your gear? is it your dad's?

Benguitar · 11-02-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaredrum

how you going to lose your gear? is it your dad's?

No,

I may have to sell it to feed my family, My 4- year old mother doesn't have a job. And hasn't had one in over 20 years.

snaredrum · 11-02-2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benguitar

No,

I may have to sell it to feed my family, My 4- year old mother doesn't have a job. And hasn't had one in over 20 years.

well that sucks an entire WORLD of ass. sorry again, man.

Benguitar · 11-02-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaredrum

well that sucks an entire WORLD of ass. sorry again, man.

Yeah.. Tell me about it..

Don't ever take your gear for granted, You never know when you might lose it..

I really hope I don't have to lose any of it, But I'll just have to take it one breath at a time...

10-30-2009, 11:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Benguitar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Swamp Posts: 503 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? Alright, So I'm using a Mesa Boogie Road King halfstack, I already have my presets dialed in to how I want them but I need something.. The only way I can describe it is "I want something that will tighten up my distortion" or "enhance" it. NOT and I repeat NOT a volume boost. I'm sorta leaning towards a MXR pedal but getting like 2-3 of them so I can set them up differently and basically "pre-set" them. (Over all goal is to eliminate Boss ME50 from my pedalboard, for a more complex and more precise effects loop) So I will stick to distortion/overdrive/gain on this thread. I need something that will basically take my "rhythm" distortion and change it to something more suited for the "riff" of the song. Maybe a EQ pedal is what I need? I'm sorta lost when it comes to EQ pedals, Seeing that the ONLY pedalboard I've used is my ME50.. Not that it's bad but it has VERY limited control over it's effects. So, Any ideas? Edit- Or maybe, Should I request a custom built pedal from one of MLP's members? That'd be kinda cool.. Like a prototype. BTW- I've looked at Seymour Duncan, EHX, MXR. They are my three preferred companies. I'm not too crazy about Boss, I think they aren't "amazing" quality. EHX didn't seem like they had anything that would do what I need it to do, Plus they are VERY pricy. I've tried a SD Twin Tube Classic. I returned it the same day because it didn't sound good with my ME50 duh I haven't owned any MXR stuff.. Except two Wah-Wah's.. __________________ God bless - Benjamin My YouTube

10-31-2009, 10:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
rodneyk915 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 962 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? I know what you mean about getting away from the ME50. I went from pedals to a gt-6 to simplify things a few years ago. Now I'm re-buying/building pedals to get away from the gt-6. I picked up a Fulltone OCD v.4 and really like the distortion/overdrive it puts out. Very tight with nice harmonics. __________________ I use: WB Custom Pickups Jonesy's Caps and Treble Bleed Kits Live every day like it's your last because one day, you'll be right.

10-31-2009, 10:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
zeppelin101 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cleveland OH Posts: 1,055 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? barber electronics. Their direct drive gets dirty when you pull the push pull pot and doesnt get metally it sorta has great lead tones and colors tube amps nicely. I love mine atleast check it out Direct Drive They have other ones too. They are made in the US and are about 120ish? __________________ My vocation is more in composition really than anything else - building up harmonies using the guitar, orchestrating the guitar like an army, a guitar army. Jimmy Page

10-31-2009, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gibsonblues Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? I wasn't too crazy bout the MXR but I'm glad you like it. They seem to be popular.... __________________ Play them blues boy.... 65 Gibson SG Jr., Gibson Les Paul Jr, 2000 G&L Legacy, 87 G&L Skyhawk, 86 G&L Invader 65 Deluxe Reverb RI, Peavey Classic 50 2X12, Blues Junior NOS, Gibson GA-5, Vibro Champ XD OCD V4, Fulltone Fat Boost, Monte Allums DS-1, Boss SD-1, CE-2, TU-2, CMAT Brownie EHX LBM Pi, Modtone MT-AD, Hardwire TL-2, T-Rex Fuel Tank Jr. 02 Gallagher Doc Watson, 72 Alvarez Yairi 12 st, 07 Collings MT, Kentucky KM-350

10-31-2009, 06:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gibsonblues Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? [QUOTE=Benguitar;1257214]Yeah, The Wylde Overdrive ISN'T a "main distortion/overdrive pedal" it is made to be an "enhancement pedal" which was exactly what I'm looking for was a pedal that wouldn't serve AS my distortion but mainly just enhance it. I wish the Fullbore Metal Pedal would have worked because it has a built-in noise gate but even with the gain turned all the way down it was just TOO much.. I tried the MXR Distortion III, Not bad. I may use it for another enhancement pedal but the Wylde Overdrive is on the top of my list so far." I didn't know that about the Wylde model! I'm glad it is what you were looking for in sound I looked at the Fullbore and it looks like a nice pedal but I really liked the TL-2. It can be a little extreme but it has some nice tweakable EQ settings on it. Kinda in your face but I know it's not for everyone. I like the Brownie that I've got but it's not a metal pedal. My modded DS-1 is killer but its not quite as tweakable as the Hardwire. Have fun with that new pedal! Later... __________________ Play them blues boy.... 65 Gibson SG Jr., Gibson Les Paul Jr, 2000 G&L Legacy, 87 G&L Skyhawk, 86 G&L Invader 65 Deluxe Reverb RI, Peavey Classic 50 2X12, Blues Junior NOS, Gibson GA-5, Vibro Champ XD OCD V4, Fulltone Fat Boost, Monte Allums DS-1, Boss SD-1, CE-2, TU-2, CMAT Brownie EHX LBM Pi, Modtone MT-AD, Hardwire TL-2, T-Rex Fuel Tank Jr. 02 Gallagher Doc Watson, 72 Alvarez Yairi 12 st, 07 Collings MT, Kentucky KM-350

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10-31-2009, 07:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gibsonblues Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? ..... My wife's BD in on December 27 so I always have to make sure she has several packages to open. Too bad she doesn't play guitar or I would get her some pedals! Later.... __________________ Play them blues boy.... 65 Gibson SG Jr., Gibson Les Paul Jr, 2000 G&L Legacy, 87 G&L Skyhawk, 86 G&L Invader 65 Deluxe Reverb RI, Peavey Classic 50 2X12, Blues Junior NOS, Gibson GA-5, Vibro Champ XD OCD V4, Fulltone Fat Boost, Monte Allums DS-1, Boss SD-1, CE-2, TU-2, CMAT Brownie EHX LBM Pi, Modtone MT-AD, Hardwire TL-2, T-Rex Fuel Tank Jr. 02 Gallagher Doc Watson, 72 Alvarez Yairi 12 st, 07 Collings MT, Kentucky KM-350

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Gibsonblues Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? __________________ Play them blues boy.... 65 Gibson SG Jr., Gibson Les Paul Jr, 2000 G&L Legacy, 87 G&L Skyhawk, 86 G&L Invader 65 Deluxe Reverb RI, Peavey Classic 50 2X12, Blues Junior NOS, Gibson GA-5, Vibro Champ XD OCD V4, Fulltone Fat Boost, Monte Allums DS-1, Boss SD-1, CE-2, TU-2, CMAT Brownie EHX LBM Pi, Modtone MT-AD, Hardwire TL-2, T-Rex Fuel Tank Jr. 02 Gallagher Doc Watson, 72 Alvarez Yairi 12 st, 07 Collings MT, Kentucky KM-350

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guysmiley Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PDX Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Need Advice On OD/DS Pedal? I'd try a compressor or an Overdrive with a good EQ on it. an Eq might work, but it sounds like you need a bit more bit or fizz on top of your tone.

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