A harmonic feedback device

[Morrislives]

Hi everyone -
It's been awhile since I've posted a question (too busy playing my guitars!!) but I wanted to ask some advice from you pros.

I'm looking for a device that can get me the same sound as when you hold your guitar toward your amp a certain way, and you get that nice gradual sustain and harmonic feedback (sometimes an octave, other times just a harmonic). I've heard of two devices that can do this, a Line 6 Dr. Distorto and a (discontinued) BOSS DF-2 Super Feedbacker & Distortion.

I've previewed both on YouTube but they're not very good representations.
Dr. Distorto:

You Tube

You Tube

BOSS Super Feedbacker:

You Tube

You Tube

Preferably, I'd like one that you can control the time it takes for it to feedback as I'm looking to get one that can do it pretty quickly and can gradually release as you pull down from the note.

A good example is on this tune:

YouTube - Incident at Neshabur ~ Santana

YouTube - Incident at Neshabur ~ Santana

Listen between 3:00 and 3:08.

Anyone have some suggestions?

Thanks!

[V!N]

Originally Posted by Morrislives

when you hold your guitar toward your amp a certain way

I think you answered your own question there.

Reality is always better than simulation and since you're playing so much, you could work on this and learn to do it yourself. But if you want it quick and easy, I suggest an eBow or replacing your neck pickup with some whatchamadoohickey that's in a couple of Jackson, Fernandez and Ibanez guitars.

Check this clip from 2:22 on for a fine example of reality:

YouTube - GARY MOORE: PARISIENNE WALKWAYS Live London ((Stereo))

YouTube - GARY MOORE: PARISIENNE WALKWAYS Live London ((Stereo))

[Morrislives]

Thanks! I've often heard of Gary Moore but never heard his playing.
I'm not talking so much as sustain (heard at 2:22) as I am harmonic feedback, a technique I'll be using for recording, not for playing live. With playing live you can blast the hell out of the amps, but since I'm playing into a Roland Cube, it requires me to use an "artificial" device.

To be honest, the Boss DF-2 Super Feedbacker & Distortion Pedal sounds like crap (at least on the YouTube demo) but can it sustain and get feedback without using the cheesy fuzz? The Dr. Distorto sounds like an eBow -- which makes playing a bit awkward.

Hell, I'm even willing to invest in a good [small] amp that can get this effect.

[AngryHatter]

That is primarliy what my wah is in place to do.
Either it provides contrast between notes or chords or it allows for the most ringing harmonics.

When on the bridge pickup and I depress the pedal I can catch the harmonic at will.
For distorion, I used an MXR coupled with a Danelectro OD.

[barrydjuptight]

I have a DF-2 (If you do get one, go for the earlier model called "Super Distortion & Feedbacker" which sounds much better than later models called "Super Feedbacker & Distortion").
To answer your question, no you can't turn off the distortion completely but if you turn it low down (on the earlier model) you get a nice smooth overdrive, not fuzz.
The feedback itself ramps in smoothly and can sound very realistic of you use it right and take the time to dial it in well. When you take your foot off the pedal however, the feedback stops abruptly, not fading out. This makes it a PIA to use sometimes but for low volume recording etc it's a good, swift way of getting a half decent feedback sound.
For low bucks, Behringer do a version of the DF-2 called an ultra feedbacker or something. You can usually get them for around £20 if you just want to grab a cheapo to see if it's worth spending the $$ on a more expensive version for your needs.