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Unread 12-05-2012, 06:01 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Strymon Mobius

What's with the Pre/Post feature?
Explain it to me please snaresie, as I am too lazy to be using of the Googles.
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basically, you can use the left/right in outs to wire it both before and after your distortion pedal, so you can put the vibe and the frequency effects - or any of them - before your distoriton, then switch to a chorus or rotary effect that's routed after your distortion. genius.
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basically, you can use the left/right in outs to wire it both before and after your distortion pedal, so you can put the vibe and the frequency effects - or any of them - before your distoriton, then switch to a chorus or rotary effect that's routed after your distortion. genius.
Exactly, pure brilliance!! I run Vibes and phaser pre dirt and everything else after. I will have to run reverb after trem now but that is a small compromise.
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i use a pedal switching system, and am having an absolute NIGHTMARE trying to work out if i can implement the pre/post feature with my setup...
You should be able to do this, no problem! One loop will need to be "Pre" and one loop will be "post." Just look at it as 2 mod pedals on different loops. Now, you will still have to select the right setting on the Mobious for the patch, unless of course you go midi!!
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You should be able to do this, no problem! One loop will need to be "Pre" and one loop will be "post." Just look at it as 2 mod pedals on different loops. Now, you will still have to select the right setting on the Mobious for the patch, unless of course you go midi!!
i have a headache. as soon as i get one, i'm coming to you. the problem as i can see it is i use one set of patches with a OD pedal, one set with a distoriton pedal.

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How many presets does this thing hold? Does it do stereo ping pong delays?
It may be something to finally retire my DL4 that's been beat to hell.
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How many presets does this thing hold? Does it do stereo ping pong delays?
It may be something to finally retire my DL4 that's been beat to hell.
you need the Timeline for delay sounds. and that holds 200 presets, and yes.
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basically, you can use the left/right in outs to wire it both before and after your distortion pedal, so you can put the vibe and the frequency effects - or any of them - before your distoriton, then switch to a chorus or rotary effect that's routed after your distortion. genius.
So have the Pre as loop 1 on my loop box and Post going into the amp FX loop (or at the end)?
Or however else you choose to swing it..

That's freaking awesome.

Ugh.

I guess I should put a deposit down on one huh.. I was looking at my board last night. Funnily enough, if I remove my modulation pedals, the Mobius would fit in that space perfectly..
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seriously, i need a technician to help me work out how to use it. i get all faint and headachey whenever i try to work out how to implement it into my board...
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Let's work it out here.

What do you have? What's the issue? Link to your gear maybe, cos I have no idea of that stuff. It'll be easy enough to work out if we all work together .
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am away to bed now, but i'll post it tomorrow. sorry man, i know you're just up and about
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Re: Strymon Mobius

put it this way - i use either an od or a distortion - no clean, ever. they are both in different loops of a gigrig pro14. normally my modulation pedals go in another loop, and i program the pedal to be, say -

button 1 - clean

button 2 - clean with modulation

button 7 - dirty

button 8 - dirt with modulation.

now... using the ins and outs of the strymon, can i wire it so it'll still do that but some of the sounds can come before my distortion? damned if i know
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It seems to me that you could have two modulation loops in the Gigrig using the Mobius then: one Pre and one Post. I imagine you could only use one or the other and not both at the same time.

These two loops are then integrated into your presets as you see fit like any other, keeping in mind that you need to change patches on the Mobius for different modulation sounds and (if such a thing is possible on the fly) choose whether you want to use the Pre or Post loops - think of them as Pre or Post "settings" at this point and it should be a bit clearer.

I see one major drawback of trying to use both Pre and Post here: the presets are preset. Changing between one patch using Pre and another using Post, but programmed for Pre, in the same song, is going to involve quite the tap dancing showpiece and/or a new dedicated patch for the Post version. And you'd still have to change the setting on the Mobius.

...I'm going to stay with Post and be happy
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Karl's got it. You should be able to assign presets be be either Pre or Post and it will take two loops on the gig rig. But in order to switch back and forth for a pre distortion mod sound (say phased dist) and a post distortion mod sound (say dist flange) the patch will also need to be changed simultaneously. Welcome to the world of midi controllers my friend!!
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Ah yes, I completely forgot about MIDI since I am blessedly free of its influence so far
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sounds waaaaaaaaaay too complicated for me. maybe it'll be easier when i have it in my hands
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i mean, how would i integrate the distortion pedal? where would i put it?
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i mean, how would i integrate the distortion pedal? where would i put it?
So Loop 1 Mobius (Pre Loop 2 Distortion; Loop 3 Mobious (Post.)

I have not read the manual on the Mobius yet, but pretty sure the Left in/outs would be the Pre and the right in/out would be the post or visa-versa. When you select Pre/Post on the Mobius for your patch it will activate the appropriate set of jacks on the mobius.

When you set up the gig rig with button one (for example) to activate the Mobius pre loop and the distortion, you will have to set the Mobius to a patch with "Pre" selected, Phase for instance. Then the signal will run through the Left in/outs and then to loop 2 (dist) and out to the amp.

I can't remember, can you program the Gig Rig to activate the loops in any order? If so, you don't need all this pre/post crap, just use the mono in/out on the Mobius and program it on the gig rig for before or after distortion.
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I suck. I canceled the Mobious. I just won't use it. Sorry Snarsie, you will have to give us all the gory details!
LP, hope you don't mind me moving your quote to here?

But yeah, I'm getting a bit the same.. I'm wondering whether I will kill my spot on the pre-order list too..

Not being able to stack effects.
Not having a Mix level on a couple of key effects. Mix is integral I reckon..
It's bloody expensive...

The manager at my local did say he'd put one aside for me to trial (ie no $$ to try it out) so I will probably do that, I guess. But I'm just not really sure if this thing is going to be for me.

But then you guys will have it for three months before we see it here...
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I ordered mine and Strymon has shipped it. I'll let you guys know soon as it arrives.
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I ordered mine and Strymon has shipped it. I'll let you guys know soon as it arrives.
How long ago did you order (i.e. how quickly did it ship)?
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sorry guys, been away for a bit.

i ordered the mobius soon as it was released (Dec 9?). Sadly, Strymon has decided to ship it via USPS and according to the tracking number, its still in L.A.
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9 days to get across a country?!
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Yeah USPS can be slow. I work with them a lot for my job it could be a case of missing paper work. If you dont ship your thing with the proper customs paper work theyll send it back which can add a week to shipping time. especially if the shipper already has been holding on to it.
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Puts into perspective the often absurd wait times getting something posted to Australia from the USofA..!
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Yeah USPS can be slow. I work with them a lot for my job it could be a case of missing paper work. If you dont ship your thing with the proper customs paper work theyll send it back which can add a week to shipping time. especially if the shipper already has been holding on to it.
Wait, customs? Isn't it the same country?
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I have too much respect for the Canadians to make any "northern State of America" jokes..
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Just in time for Christmas my Mobius arrived today. I had all of 15 seconds to play with it before heading out to work.

Let me just say, its sounds awesome. Ran it through my Deluxe Reverb and I think I had an eargasm!
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