For all the Gilmour fans & the delay-freaks: This is the Alter Ego...

Hector Arcadius · 03-05-2012, 12:59 PM

PGS & TC Electronics just took it one step further:

TC Electronic Alter Ego Delay - YouTube

Enjoy Andy's playing and his Gilmour tones...

snaredrum · 03-05-2012, 01:55 PM

ah, dammit. i was sorted for delay!

lespaul01 · 03-05-2012, 02:00 PM

good stuff

snaredrum · 03-05-2012, 02:03 PM

you owe me £100, Hector - i just ordered one.

Hector Arcadius · 03-05-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by snaredrum

you owe me £100, Hector - i just ordered one.

Well... I do have a Muff Ram's Head clone that I have not been using much lately, so if you want it...

snaredrum · 03-05-2012, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hector Arcadius

Well... I do have a Muff Ram's Head clone that I have not been using much lately, so if you want it...

funnily enough, i'm ok for muffs...

that echorec sounds pretty damn awesome, doesn't it? i can use the hand-based tap tempo thing as well, as my leg isn't always up to actually tapping

kboman · 03-05-2012, 02:25 PM

Holy crap... I was planning on getting a Flashback mainly for reverse and looping. I may have to get this instead. Sounds amazing, as TC stuff usually does.

snaredrum · 03-05-2012, 02:35 PM

watching all the toneprint "making-of" vids on the TC website, it looks like the most thankless task in the world!

Rockstar - "can we get more clarity? and make it more open?"

TC guy - "um... yes. like this?" (fiddles with laptop)

Rockstar - "i can live with that"

sheesh!

Hector Arcadius · 03-05-2012, 02:44 PM

Hector Arcadius · 03-05-2012, 02:45 PM

Btw, something completely off-topic:

Did you know that Orianthi is of Greek origins? And she is presently the lead guitarist of... Alice Cooper?

Mookakian · 03-05-2012, 04:35 PM

id love some of those big analog synths to be bought into re-production, nice unit there, i may pull the trigger!

freefrog · 03-06-2012, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kboman

Holy crap... I was planning on getting a Flashback mainly for reverse and looping. I may have to get this instead. Sounds amazing, as TC stuff usually does.

FWIW: IME, the Flashback doesn't necessarily work well with high impedance output dirt boxes (Fuzz Face, Big Muff and OCD among others and to name only those in my analog pedalboard). It might totally change their volume AND tone once the internal buffer enabled - and if this TC buffer is disabled, the FX might sound bad with dirtorsion, while some modes ("Dyn" or "loop") would become impossible to use.
I had to return the unit (maybe had I got a lemon? IDK) because of that and now I find myself with a DD7, whose delay is not as good than TC stuff but whose buffer works with any of my pedals...
HTH!

Hector Arcadius · 03-06-2012, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freefrog

FWIW: IME, the Flashback doesn't work well with high impedance output dirt boxes (Fuzz Face, Big Muff and OCD among others and to name only those in my analog pedalboard). It totally changes their volume AND tone once the internal buffer enabled - and if this TC buffer is disabled, the FX sounds bad with dirtorsion, while some modes ("Dyn" or "loop") become impossible to use.
I had to return the unit because of that and I find myself with a DD7, whose delay is not as good than TC stuff but whose buffer works with any of my pedals...
HTH!

In the video above Andy has been using it with quite some gain, most probably from some fuzz, and it does not seem to have a problem. And I never had the slightest issue using my TC Nova Repeater with any dirt-box...

st.bede · 03-06-2012, 02:29 AM

I have to agree with hector but at the same time I can not dismiss what you are saying freefrog. It certainly sounds like something was going on for you. I guess we will have to see if more people jump in here with some experiences.

CHUNKYNECK · 03-06-2012, 02:37 AM

Cool demo clip. I gotta stop watching pgs demos, lucky they are out of stock of everything i wanted the other day or i would have been eating canned beans for a few weeks. No one likes or needs that around home.

freefrog · 03-06-2012, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hector Arcadius

In the video above Andy has been using it with quite some gain, most probably from some fuzz, and it does not seem to have a problem. And I never had the slightest issue using my TC Nova Repeater with any dirt-box...

Yes, I've noticed that Andy used a fuzz with the TC in the vid... and that's precisely why I've chimed in to state my own experience: on the unit that I've tried, the TC buffer was a real tone sucker with 3 dirt boxes among the 4 that I currently use (!). Again, maybe I've got a lemon but I'm not alone apparently:

TC Flashback kills my Big Muff's tone. - The Gear Page

No problem before and after this bad experience with my Carbon Copy nor with the DD7, so it's not due to my other pedals.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not trying to bash TC. I'd prefer to have the FB instead of the DD7. I'm just stating honestly my actual experience, with the idea to be useful for potential buyers: I recommend them to TRY the unit with their actual rig, if possible.

Kind regards,

freefrog.

EDIT: I've an input buffer (Super Hard On or Micro-Amp) at the beginning on my FX chain, I use good cables with a carefully measured capacitance and I am very cautious when it comes to FX chaining / impedance matching, so the the problem is not in these usual sources or trouble. :-)

kboman · 03-06-2012, 04:17 AM

That's good and useful info freefrog, thanks! I'll definitely try before I (potentially) buy.

voodo child · 03-06-2012, 04:26 AM

Im the first to admit that Im a MXR fanboy but damn that pedal was good

Hector Arcadius · 03-06-2012, 04:34 AM

@Freefrog:

No problem for sharing your personal experience buddy! That's exactly why forums are for, right? And what you experienced may be useful to another member that perhaps, in the future, faces the same issue.

I didn't mean to come out as doubtful, not at all. In fact your post made me feel better for getting the Repeater a little time before the Flashback was released.

freefrog · 03-06-2012, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hector Arcadius

@Freefrog:

No problem for sharing your personal experience buddy! That's exactly why forums are for, right? And what you experienced may be useful to another member that perhaps, in the future, faces the same issue.

I didn't mean to come out as doubtful, not at all. In fact your post made me feel better for getting the Repeater a little time before the Flashback was released.

No problem for me either, mate: I'm just someone who likes to precise his thoughts.

Quote:

That's good and useful info freefrog, thanks! I'll definitely try before I (potentially) buy.

You're welcome. Glad to be useful. Maybe the FB will work for you: I know other musicians who swear by it.

Oh, and... the "Alter Ego" really sounds darn good!

Hamtone · 03-06-2012, 03:10 PM

Sounds good. and nice playing from andy

snaredrum · 03-06-2012, 06:24 PM

i suppose i should point out, i've been using my polychorus as a slapback delay live and my El Capistan for the longer washier stuff, so can actually use the Alter Ego. although a good Echorec impression was a HELL of a turn-on for me

kittyhawk · 03-07-2012, 11:10 AM

Mine is on order. Will tell how it does when it arrived.

Hector Arcadius · 03-07-2012, 12:00 PM

I think I'm gonna mail this thread to Andy. You know, so that I get my commission...

kittyhawk · 03-07-2012, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hector Arcadius

I think I'm gonna mail this thread to Andy. You know, so that I get my commission...

in fact i read about this pedal on another forum before

i wanted a flashback anyway. the new colour and the new presets were a good plus on my list to buy this one.

Hector Arcadius · 03-07-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittyhawk

in fact i read about this pedal on another forum before

i wanted a flashback anyway. the new colour and the new presets were a good plus on my list to buy this one.

Hey, you're ruining it for me...

I agree, the FB is a great pedal as it is, the 2 new settings make it irresistible. i hope you do like it when you get it.

kboman · 03-07-2012, 05:18 PM

And not entirely surprisingly...!

Free Pedal Friday Mar. 9 - TC Electronic Alter Ego Delay - YouTube

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