Pedal Acquisition Syndrome PAS group

[GrouchyDog]

Dang it all Austin, I just about had myself talked down from any more ODs for a while, and then you post that...

Snare, +1 on the Dunlop vid, that's worth the time. The JB sounded great.

[gibsonguitar1988]

Originally Posted by GrouchyDog

Dang it all Austin, I just about had myself talked down from any more ODs for a while, and then you post that...

Snare, +1 on the Dunlop vid, that's worth the time. The JB sounded great.

No more OD's for awhile?! That's rubbish!

You know you want one.

[snaredrum]

Originally Posted by GrouchyDog

Snare, +1 on the Dunlop vid, that's worth the time. The JB sounded great.

i've owned it once and am basing my thoughts on how it felt - it didn't (for me) suit a marshall amp, but then that's my ears. i'm thinking the warmth it adds (plus the Ge) will REALLY suit the fender. must admit i'm kinda tempted by the Ej, but i think that's my PAS beating my common sense, as i don't dig EJ's tone most of the time. (heresy? maybe. not the first or last time, either). LOVE the sputtery thing though. sigh.

maybe i should just go back to flipping a coin. or in this case a 4 sided die...

[snaredrum]

although, i'm going to be using humbuckers 90% of the time... maybe the EJ is the way to go

[rumblebox]

i broke down the cost of my board as of now. i still need a power supply, but that'll come in a month or so.

who says tone has to be expensive??!!

wood______________$10.00
screws_____________$5.00
paint______________$10.00
velcro tape__________$9.00
tuner______________$30.00
bad monkey_________$35.00
expression factory____$85.00
cry baby____________$65.00
memory boy_________$50.00
AMT E1____________$130.00
cables______________$40.00

TOTAL COST________$469.00

[GrouchyDog]

Less than half a K-buck? You ain't serious yet...

J/k, that's a nice-looking board.

[kboman]

Friends, fellow addicts. I have a problem.

This coming month I can afford a volume pedal (this is set in stone, I know exactly which one) and one other pedal. This other is very likely to be a delay pedal, and this is where I find myself divided between three options:

TC Nova Delay (used)
+ plenty of options, presets, dedicated tap tempo, continously adjustable tape-analog-digital style sounds
- kind of big, only 2290ms delay

Boss DD-20 (used)
+ plenty of options, presets, dedicated tap tempo, 23 whopping seconds of delay time
- big, does it sound as good as the others?, feels a bit "boring" for some reason

TC Flashback (new)
+ small, versatile, tone prints, 6 seconds of delay time
- "strum tempo" nonsense, no tone control and generally less options

Notice my focus on delay times? I'm going to place this far back in my chain and use it as a tape looper (like Frippertronics et al) with a long delay + high feedback and effect level. Not only that, but that will be a big part of its duties.

So, with all that blathering on over with, what do you guys think would be a good choice?

Edit: Oh and price-wise it's Flashback > Nova Delay > DD-20.

(and yes, I know, I'm a bad boy who should focus on a new pedal board and more power... but that's what tax returns are for )

[StandingWave]

I really, really don't like the size of the ND-1, but I like the presets. I like the strum tempo nonsense -- works great. It has tap tempo too.

[kboman]

Originally Posted by StandingWave

I like the strum tempo nonsense -- works great. It has tap tempo too.

I don't like the idea of having to push the button for 2 seconds before setting my tempo. And I have found no mention on the web or in any demo of a conventional tap tempo?

[2009LPGT]

Originally Posted by kboman

Friends, fellow addicts. I have a problem.

This coming month I can afford a volume pedal (this is set in stone, I know exactly which one) and one other pedal. This other is very likely to be a delay pedal, and this is where I find myself divided between three options:

TC Nova Delay (used)
+ plenty of options, presets, dedicated tap tempo, continously adjustable tape-analog-digital style sounds
- kind of big, only 2290ms delay

Boss DD-20 (used)
+ plenty of options, presets, dedicated tap tempo, 23 whopping seconds of delay time
- big, does it sound as good as the others?, feels a bit "boring" for some reason

TC Flashback (new)
+ small, versatile, tone prints, 6 seconds of delay time
- "strum tempo" nonsense, no tone control and generally less options

Notice my focus on delay times? I'm going to place this far back in my chain and use it as a tape looper (like Frippertronics et al) with a long delay + high feedback and effect level. Not only that, but that will be a big part of its duties.

So, with all that blathering on over with, what do you guys think would be a good choice?

Edit: Oh and price-wise it's Flashback > Nova Delay > DD-20.

(and yes, I know, I'm a bad boy who should focus on a new pedal board and more power... but that's what tax returns are for )

First, I was not going to beat your chops again about the board and power!

Second, I have only tried the DD20. I can say that I love it! It went on my board and never came off and I don't even think about other delays. My bachelor days for delay are over! The 5 presets are the perfect amount. I have a slap back tape, long analog, short chorus (yes the modulation is excellent and makes chorus moot) and fast chorus. The 5th slot is not really a preset but it remembers your last setting so it can be. I often use this for a digital delay setting that I tap tempo in to the tune works great! The dd20 is really well designed and has an excellent buffer! Highly recommended!

Of course all of those are great delays so good luck my friend!!

[Shagnwagon]

If it were me I would go TC then DD20. I like bigger delay units because they generally are easier to operate. Also the DD20 is a great unit and the sound is good, but I like other sounds more so thats why I would go wit the TC, but the DD20 is indestructible and ALOT of people have them on their boards that I know and love em...and I will probably own one at some point haha.

Now for me one thing that it would NEED (which I am upset that my current delay doesnt have but the next one will) is dotted eighth delay.

[StandingWave]

Originally Posted by kboman

I don't like the idea of having to push the button for 2 seconds before setting my tempo. And I have found no mention on the web or in any demo of a conventional tap tempo?

Maybe I wasn't clear in my earlier post, but I was referring only to the ND-1. On the ND-1, it's more like 0.5 seconds. Also on the ND-1, the right foot switch is labeled tap tempo in fairly large letters and I can assure you that it works. Don't know about the Flashback, it could be different.

[kboman]

Originally Posted by StandingWave

Maybe I wasn't clear in my earlier post, but I was referring only to the ND-1. On the ND-1, it's more like 0.5 seconds. Also on the ND-1, the right foot switch is labeled tap tempo in fairly large letters and I can assure you that it works. Don't know about the Flashback, it could be different.

Yeah I totally misread your post, I was talking about the Flashback. Sorry if I came across as stupid/cranky. Time to go to sleep!

[StandingWave]

Nope, not stupid or cranky. My response to that may appear smart-ass, but not intended.

[snaredrum]

out of the three, i'd be tempted to go for the flashback, the toneprint is a godsend.

regarding a board - i know, i suck.

[Hector Arcadius]

Karl,

since you are considering the Flashback, it seems that Presets are not a must-have feature for you. If you got to have presets then indeed, it should be between the Nova and the DD-20. I know the DD-20 is ''simply a Boss pedal'' but everyone who tries one considers it to be one of the best and that says a lot.

Now, for the TC stuff: I like the Repeater more than the Nova, the ''tone'' control it has is simply incredible in shaping your repeats. Both tap-tempo (with a dedicated switch - unlike the Flashback) and strum tempo. That is if you don't mind the fact that it runs on 12V adapter. Note that it comes with it's own power supply.

Now, if you don't like running it in 12V and you want the even smaller size (btw, a Repeater is smaller than a DD-20, somewhat) and you don't need a dedicated switch for the tempo, then you should get the Flashback.


You know that for me, it is the Repeater and never look back.

[kboman]

Your input is very much appreciated! So far I'm leaning toward the Flashback. The toneprint really seems like a cool feature, it's stereo through (good for my future Plans) and it's small and 9V operated. Too bad about the tap tempo though and that you can't set the repeats to a specific amount (for example, 428ms) and have to go by knob twiddling only. Given how I'm going to use it, these may prove minor issues though.

The FB has another strong point: I can walk five minutes to my local music store and try it out in the flesh, and if I like it I can take it home with me right then and there. This is a big plus in my book.

Originally Posted by snaredrum

regarding a board - i know, i suck.

You really do. You englishman.

[gibsonguitar1988]

Guess what? Fulltone has a new dirtbox coming out soon.

This looks pretty enticing (oh hell, who am I kidding - I just love dirtboxes! ):

[snaredrum]

Originally Posted by kboman

You really do. You englishman.

that cut me to my very soul.

[kboman]

Originally Posted by snaredrum

that cut me to my very soul.

Ah, I have found your kryptonite then! Excellent...

[Shagnwagon]

Originally Posted by gibsonguitar1988

Guess what? Fulltone has a new dirtbox coming out soon.

This looks pretty enticing (oh hell, who am I kidding - I just love dirtboxes! ):

Im looking for a replacement for Distortion III now...well as soon as a recuperate from this last purchase

[Hector Arcadius]

On top of the new Fulltone pedal, we got a new, interesting pedal release. I have good news and bad news.


Good news first: It's a new distortion pedal from Wampler! Take a listen:

Wampler: SOVEREIGN Distortion. Charvel San Dimas Koa to Marshall Bluesbreaker - YouTube

Wampler: SOVEREIGN Distortion. Charvel San Dimas Koa to Marshall Bluesbreaker - YouTube

...and bad news last: Wampler follows the latest marketing trend and makes it... a Guitar Center / MF exclusive...


I feel I have an imminent middle finger lift-off...

[StandingWave]

Originally Posted by Hector Arcadius

...and bad news last: Wampler follows the latest marketing trend and makes it... a Guitar Center / MF exclusive...

I feel I have an imminent middle finger lift-off...

At least it doesn't appear to say GC or MF on it. They should start showing up used any minute now, so no need to patronize GC or MF, if that's an issue. [I've already seen a used Tweed '57 for $160.]

[jfwund]

Opened my brand new Nova Repeater this evening -- funny how my wife knows exactly what to get me (especially when I say "this is what I want and this is where you can buy it from"). Haven't gotten to try it out yet -- by the time the birthday family hanging out was done it was too late to plug in. Tomorrow morning can't come fast enough!

Time for bed...

[Hector Arcadius]

Originally Posted by jfwund

Opened my brand new Nova Repeater this evening -- funny how my wife knows exactly what to get me (especially when I say "this is what I want and this is where you can buy it from"). Haven't gotten to try it out yet -- by the time the birthday family hanging out was done it was too late to plug in. Tomorrow morning can't come fast enough!

Time for bed...

Congrats on the new pedal and... happy birthday J! I'm sure you will love this one.

[gibsonguitar1988]

The Sovereign looks very cool! It seems very versatile. There is another demo by someone else that is more my tastes. Burgs demo although great is just too metal-y for my vintage rock tastes. There is a couple other videos done more in a classic rock purist fashion that I like. But it still might be too much for me. I still want the Tweed '57, Black '65, Plexi Drive, Pinnacle, and SLOstortion though.

[gibsonguitar1988]

Here is my favorite Sovereign demo:

Wampler Sovereign Distortion - DEMO - YouTube

Wampler Sovereign Distortion - DEMO - YouTube

Much more classic rock like which appeals to the purist that I am.

Another great demo:

Wampler Pedals Sovereign Distortion Demo by Harry Maes - YouTube

Wampler Pedals Sovereign Distortion Demo by Harry Maes - YouTube

[gibsonguitar1988]

Originally Posted by jfwund

Opened my brand new Nova Repeater this evening -- funny how my wife knows exactly what to get me (especially when I say "this is what I want and this is where you can buy it from"). Haven't gotten to try it out yet -- by the time the birthday family hanging out was done it was too late to plug in. Tomorrow morning can't come fast enough!

Time for bed...

HNPD and Happy Birthday!!

[Hector Arcadius]

Originally Posted by gibsonguitar1988

Here is my favorite Sovereign demo:

Wampler Sovereign Distortion - DEMO - YouTube

Much more classic rock like which appeals to the purist that I am.

Another great demo:

Wampler Pedals Sovereign Distortion Demo by Harry Maes - YouTube

The first demo alone has sold me to this pedal already! Seriously, this must be my, hands down, favourite Wampler pedal! Amazing tones, in every single setting, from bluesy (GREAT bluesy tones, for sure!) to full-out brown sound shredding-ess!


Damn it! Anyone wants to buy a Crunch Box...? Oh, and anyone willing to buy this for me in the States and ship it to the far side of the world...?
No, seriously...

[2009LPGT]

Originally Posted by Hector Arcadius

Oh, and anyone willing to buy this for me in the States and ship it to the far side of the world...?
No, seriously...

I'd help a brother out!

Woo hoo, another amazing dirt box from Wampler. I can hardly contain myself.

This guy needs to let dirt ride for awhile (sorry Austin, its how I feel .) I am ready to see the tap tempo Faux Analog/Tape delay that was promised a couple of years ago!! Maybe a kick ass phaser or even a no BS multi-mod unit as only Brian could imagine!

Wampler is starting to look a bit like Lovepedal. New paint and a new cap = new dirt box. GC/MF? Hmmmm...hope it does not water down his booteekness.