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Unread 12-13-2013, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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~ IBANEZ facts, photos + ID thread ~

I thought a dedicated Ibanez thread was long overdue, since there were so many produced and exported and little mention of them in the FAQ or other forum threads.
Hoshino Gakki is credited with putting MIJ guitars on the map in in America and Europe during the early 70's.

Ibanez Les Pauls were briefly made at the Teisco factory until it closed in 1970, and then production was moved to Fujigen.

Ibanez Les Pauls share common designs and a common heritage with Greco models for this reason,
including the use of Maxon pickups.

Some models were reportedly produced at Matsumoku, but I'm not sure when, or which models.



Some tips to determine the year of manufacture:

Pre 1975: Ibanez models didn't use serial numbers prior to 1975, but there are date codes on ink stamped Maxon pickups that can give owners a general idea of when their model was produced. Info on how to read date codes are discussed here : http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/othe...ml#post3144363

1975 -1986: The serial number on the headstock back (or neck plate for certain models) has a letter prefix (A to L) followed by a 6 digit number.
A= Jan L= Dec. The first two numbers designate the production year, and the following 4 numbers are the guitar production number.

1987 - 1996: The letter prefix now designates the factory where the guitar was produced, and only the first digit represents the year of production, so 7xxxxx = 1987 while 6xxxxx would be 1996.
Manufacturers include F for Fujigen, C for Cort Korea, S for Samick Korea,
W for world Korea and other letters for China and Indonesia produced models.

1997 - 2010:
Same as 1987 - 1996, but the year of manufacture prefix reverts back to two numbers, so F98xxxxx would be a 1998 model.
Because of this, the numeric portion becomes 7 digits.

There were serial format changes from 2011 onwards for certain models.

Exceptions: Cort and other non Japanese factory numbers can vary in length.
There are other format variations for non Les Paul models.

Neck plate numbers: generally numeric, with no letter prefix and the first two numbers designate the production year.

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My Ibanez 2350 Les Paul from 1976. Bridge and mashine heads not original.
Everything else is original, including super 70 pickups and case. Interesting guitar, but sounds like shit to me. I also have Ibanez Musician MC-150 from 1981. Much better....

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Its unusual for someone to say a guitar with super 70's sounds like shit. what type of music do you play?
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I've got an old January of '86 AS-80, Super 58's are crisp and have a nice punch to them, real snappy.

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I love Super 58's too.

Nice 335's BTW !
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Hey, thanks for the thread, i would never have known mine was the last year they made them all in Japan. Thanks for sharin' the love and the knowledge.
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Its unusual for someone to say a guitar with super 70's sounds like shit. what type of music do you play?
Pickups does not play alone and birch plywood top is not the best tone wood for electric guitar. As I said the bridge is not original and very cheap. I think this can also affect the sound ... Someday I will put a better bridge and I hope that the result will be better.
I know that some of the later versions of this guitar has been with Gibraltar bridges (as Ibanez Artist and Musician). Those bridges come with brass saddles and it would be interesting to try the guitar with this bridge.
Also please not forget that Ibanez 2350 has bolt on neck and this also affect the sound.
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Ibanez Musicians MC500 80 and 81 with aMC40 78 in the middle

Pre Serial 2375

81 MC3000

81 AS100

81 mc150 78 mc40 and 78mc 500

78 ST300

Back row:AR500, 2617,ar100,ar500
front row 2622 78 thru 79

From Left 2629, sa100, es330

PF 150

78 mc200

82 am75

78 2630

77 2651

77 2651

Thats most of them
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Wow, what a collection !

Thanks for posting pics.
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great thread, great posts, hope to be able to contribute in the near future.

i own a number of les paul type copies by hohner, inka and ibanez.

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My Deluxe 59er

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A couple more pics I have found
FG100 82

AR300 80 with the 2651 77

81 RS 100

MC 300 78

AND A LITTLE ARTIST PORN (NOT MINE)
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Re: ~ IBANEZ facts, photos + ID thread ~

i am crap at searching the forum (hope to improve over time).

here s a basic question: what year was the round lettered headstock script last used ?

hope to post pictures of my ibanez custom vee soon... thanks all ! h.
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I think the logo change was in the 1979-1980 time frame but I'm not positive. Actually there are newer Ibanez guitars with the old script style. ( Jet King models)
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I think the logo change was in the 1979-1980 time frame but I'm not positive. Actually there are newer Ibanez guitars with the old script style. ( Jet King models)
it crossed my mind too about possible later reissues and such with old style script logos.
there is no serial number but i am pretty sure mine is an old one, so far i have found custom vee models in ibanez catalogs from 1970, 1975 and 1976.

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Not mine, but thought I would post this '72-'73 model 2393.
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Great older thread, hope you don't mind me bringing it back but I wanted to add my early 70's 2351 goldtop. I think it's a 71-72 based on the shape of the bottom of the fretboard (rounded edges)

It plays great and is in really good shape. The neck is super thin, in fact, the thinnest neck of all my electrics. It plays fast. It's all original except for the tuners and at some point, the previous owner flipped the bridge pickup upside down. Not sure why but I leave it as is since it sounds pretty amazing. Very bright and crispy. I've had it since the mid 80's and even though it's got very little value, I have accepted it into the fold. It gets used too!!













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Dam could have bought one of those blue burst ones about 5 or 6 years ago,

what model would it be AR type.. I had an x series stolen years ago too..

I am very fond of Ibanez guitars loved there early les pauls...
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The one in the pic is an AR300
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Vintage Ibanez Guitar Catalogs - 1971 through 2007
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Mine! Pre-1976 2354 SG copy. Mine is the same as the one on the right.

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Lovely collection! Really digging the 2629.

I had a chance to pick up an old 1983 AM-50 at a guitar shop recently and was shocked to find the neck similar in feel to my 1980 AR-100. Do any of the 70's-80's 335 style Ibanezs have a more traditional thicker neck?

As far as your 2651 does that have a solid maple cap?
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My 1995 PS-10 2 made in Korea...
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Lovely collection! Really digging the 2629.

I had a chance to pick up an old 1983 AM-50 at a guitar shop recently and was shocked to find the neck similar in feel to my 1980 AR-100. Do any of the 70's-80's 335 style Ibanezs have a more traditional thicker neck?

As far as your 2651 does that have a solid maple cap?
The 2651 and the 2650 both have solid caps
as far as neck thickness I havent checked against others
I have a LP special that has a 60s style neck to compare
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My Ibanez Les Paul Junior, or 2343 as they called it in catalog. Built between 1974-76, it has the Gibson style headstock that caused them a lot of problems hence the infamous Gibson lawsuit.

It has a L5S harmonica bridge though, which is odd, because it looks factory fitted as there is a plate under the bridge which shows routing that is too neat to have been done by anyone replacing a wraparound bridge after market. I tried to remove it to inspect underneath, just to satisfy my curiosity 100% that it's not hiding wraparound holes, but the posts are in so tight that I think it's best left where it is! I'm pretty sure that it came with the L5S, by the quality of the routing anyway.

I bought this in 1981, sold it to a friend in 84, and it has just been returned to me. It has a 1960 style slim neck, large frets (unusual for a guitar of this period) and Schaller M6 tuners which i think were stock on the guitar too, as there are no extra holes, and sounds and plays great.









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Has anyone ever seen a vintage Ibanez that looked like a 3 pickup John Sykes model? I saw one in a shop today that was really fun to play and had a great vintage tone. I believe it was a 77', but can't find it in the catalogue. Closest would be the 2341:



However the one I played had a) exposed buckers, b) silver pickguard, and c) silver PuP rings.

So cosmetically it like an Ibanez 3 PuP version of this:



Pickup selector went bridge (treble), bridge, middle and neck (middle), and middle and neck (rhythm), which I also found kind of odd.

My best guess is that it was a 2341 that someone years back modified to look like a John Sykes. I can't imagine there was an Ibanez "custom shop" back then that would have built it for him.

Would greatly appreciate any information people have.

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Sykes rose to prominence with Tygers of Pan Tang in 1980, by which time Ibanez weren't making copies anymore, so there's no chance Ibanez made a tribute guitar in his honour.

Clearly someone customised an existing 3-pup Ibanez LP copy.


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Why are the early set neck LP's worth so much compared to same era Greco's?
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You'll have to be more specific.
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Most likely because they made a lot more bolt-ons than set necks.
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