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Unread 12-05-2011, 01:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Vintage v100 or...

Hey guys.I saved $600 and my problem is...I have epiphone les paul custom korea 2007 and fender mustang II.The tone is not really good check this out
my question is...should i get a Vintage V100 AFD as my second electric guitar? will it be big diffrence with sound? should i change my amp or buy wah wah or...? i need advice... and opinions about vintage v11 guitars. i am les paul fan so I want a les paul guitar with diffrent tone than my epi custom.
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Unread 12-05-2011, 02:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

Hi there,

Thought i'd repost in the right section!

I have had one of these since early November and I think it is good value for money. I also have a 2003 Gibson Les Paul Classic and whilst when played side by side you can clearly tell then apart, I don't think the gulf in quality is quite as big as the gulf in price.

I don't know how to explain the difference in sound properly but will try anyway! The Vintage AFD sounds quite bright and twangy, a bit more like a Telecaster than a Les Paul. I like playing it and mine has been well finished, the pickups sound quite warm.

My only criticism of the guitar is that the tuners look and feel cheap but are easily upgradeable.

I have had an epiphone les paul and I think it is marginally better than that but having only tried one of each it is not really a representative sample and I know there will be people on here that will prefer their epiphones.

In summary I am satisified with my example and think they make sense for the money.

It may well be sensible to sell the Epiphone as someone suggested on last thread and use that money as well towards one guitar that you do like.

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Unread 12-05-2011, 04:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

I am not very knowledgeable concerning the Vintage guitars.
But in that price range it would not be that much of a difference between a decent korean made Epi.
I went from a decent Epi to a Gibson Studio and you know what .."I still suck !"

A lot of "tone" comes from confidence and skill when playing, not just gear , record yourself , keep practising , keep evolving and record again a couple of months later and see if the tone is improving.
Between the Epiphone and vintage my bet would be that a different amp would make a bigger difference.
Seems those Mustang 2 amps are highly tweakable though , you could mess around a bit.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

What amp are you using, pickups, pots and caps may help you out as well.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

My opinion:

1. change the pickups if they are stock for Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio
2. get better caps
3. Mustang II is quite good amp for it's price, but you might as well think about selling it and buy some low wattage valve amp - if you are playing at home something like 5W.

So, for the price of new guitar (Vintage has good hardware and pups, but overall quality wont be much improvement) you can upgrade your actual gear.

Other option is buying some nice MIJ (600$ would be enough) like Burny or Greco , which will be few steps above Korean Epis. Than even Fender Mustang can stay for awhile as your main amp.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

im using fender mustang II. so getting another guitar in the same price range is not great idea...? okay then my question is. what option will give me better sound? changing pickups and caps or getting better amp ?and if the first option... which caps and pickups should i get? seymour duncan alnico 2 pro?
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

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im using fender mustang II. so getting another guitar in the same price range is not great idea...? okay then my question is. what option will give me better sound? changing pickups and caps or getting better amp ?and if the first option... which caps and pickups should i get? seymour duncan alnico 2 pro?
who knows my friend

I would say, after playing few hours on Mustang, that they are very nice amps and You can get some decent sounds with it. So I would stay with it.

In my opinion you have two choices:

1. Changing pickups - immortal Seymour Duncan's Sh2&Sh4 combo or Slash's combo

2. Changing guitar - sell that epi, get all your money and buy Burny or Greco
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

Ok i think theres no better option.So what els should I change in my epi?
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

I think pdoodek is right, so thats the place for you to get important infos about tuning your guitar:
Epiphone Les Paul FAQ

Also in my opinion you should spend your money on a nice little tube amp like Vox Nighttrain or Peavy Classic 30.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

ok i will get the sh2sh4 set btw should i buy special edition or normal? btw mettalica stuff will sound good with em?
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

i would do two things.

1 upgrade the epi electronically - wiring (pots/caps etc) first and then pups (I have played a couple of Epis and the alnico pups were really nice sounding). Assuming you like how it feels in your hands and its looks, just keep that. the vintage wont sound much better than the epi stock.

2 get a good overdrive pedal. that way you can keep the mustang clean and just use the pedal to get some nice overdrive at low volumes.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

For the sake of $10 or $15 you might want to consider caps as well.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

Ok i am ready to buy right now.I already purshared the pickups sh2sh4 set.
I cant find shop with the electronic stuff for guitar, can you help me guys? I live in Poland.
and please tell me the model names what should i buy.I want to purshare everything at the moment

hmm Potencjometr CTS 500K this?
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

For all the wiring and electric-voodoo you should contact Jonesy (an MLP member), he will help you and he got the stuff you want .
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

i've wrote you a PM with few advices.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

The pickups in my V100 sound better than the Epiphone Les Paul Standard I had. It holds tune perfectly too.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

eh the wah pedal doesnt work so good on fender mustang II...
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

and what WahWah did you bought ?
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

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Re: Vintage v100 or...

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im using fender mustang II. so getting another guitar in the same price range is not great idea...? okay then my question is. what option will give me better sound? changing pickups and caps or getting better amp ?and if the first option... which caps and pickups should i get? seymour duncan alnico 2 pro?
depends, what are you looking for in sound, a fuller sound or... something else.
I would say start out with good pickups, a great guitar should also sound good on a mediocre amp, it would sound flimsy but good. And it's not about the effects, so buy a good amp, which sounds good clean, and to finish the overall sound, buy a bad monkey it sounds great.

here is philX playing through a bad monkey
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

I bought a,"Vintage Brand" Les Paul 2nd hand this year.Black version.Very good for the price.I didn't like the Wilkinson PUPs as they were too mellow for my liking.Bought a pair of cheap,"Mighty Mite" humbucker copies off Ebay.Much brighter/clearer.Guitar needed a little work as a couple of the frets were high but I've been doing my own guitar work for years so that was no biggy.
Changed wiring a little so the PUPS are off properly when Volume Controls turned down.

Here's an instrumental version of one of my songs recorded through a Behringer Mic200 through Podfarm live software(Toneport GX) into Reaper DAW.

LastChapteGitr.mp3 - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

and a little rockier sounding Funky Blues with it,

The Closest Thing(Funky Blues) by Doug Sheppard

I think it's very good and flexible sounds
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

Vintage guitars are really good value, IMHO. They seem to be a little inconsistent, though, so you need to try to compare several and find a "good" one. My buddy had bought a faded Les Paul and we took it to a local store and played it against 3 V100's. After the first 2, he was keeping the LP, but when they brought out the 3rd one it was noticeably better sounding that the other 2. (also quite a bit heavier) The LP sounded just a very little bit better, but not twice as good as the price would indicate, so he sent back the LP and walked out with the V100. He just swapped the bridge pup for a Dimarzio PAF 36 anniv. and it sounds even better now. I would say it would probably beat the faded LP now, IMHO.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

I changed pups...Guns N Roses - Sweet Child o Mine cover - YouTube
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

I use a stock afd with an added coil split on the neck and the neck pickup wired out of phase and I just love it, it's my main touring guitar after the lemondrop.
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Re: Vintage v100 or...

I had an AFD for a while and was pretty pleased with it. The only thing that really needed attention was the nut slot heights. They're always too high on most guitars out of the factory. Not a big job for a luthier to set correctly and makes it so much nicer to play.
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