Slash: Derrig vs Max - The AFD Period

[BlueStar]

My brother "Max" had a shop in Hollywood, where he made the replica guitar. He is alive and well. He is working on a documentary right now about a Les Paul guitar. He has an ongoing project going on in Japan also. He is very much alive and well, and a really talented big brother too!

[FLICKOFLASH]

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Gibson will release eight new Slash-branded guitars. The campaign is so important to Henry Juszkiewicz, chairman and CEO of Gibson Guitars, that he is taking the company's exciting Slash guitars off the market to create even more hype around the new ones.

Why eight? "Price points," Juszkiewicz says. "They're going to go from cheap to high-end custom, personally signed by Slash."

The Slash series will appear in stores March 15, and the guitarist and Juszkiewicz already are plotting a big stunt around the street date.

[ReverendJWblues]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Gibson will release eight new Slash-branded guitars. The campaign is so important to Henry Juszkiewicz, chairman and CEO of Gibson Guitars, that he is taking the company's exciting Slash guitars off the market to create even more hype around the new ones.

Why eight? "Price points," Juszkiewicz says. "They're going to go from cheap to high-end custom, personally signed by Slash."

The Slash series will appear in stores March 15, and the guitarist and Juszkiewicz already are plotting a big stunt around the street date.

Now why would Henry say CHEAP, and not say inexpensive. A marketers nitemare, sounds like a bunch of over hype to me. But then again Im not even interested in one.

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by ReverendJWblues

Now why would Henry say CHEAP, and not say inexpensive. A marketers nitemare, sounds like a bunch of over hype to me. But then again Im not even interested in one.

I think Henry has been overly bitten by the Hollywood bug ! Whats next a save the gophers Gibson?
Hey Rev, Me either Insanity

[FLICKOFLASH]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Gibson will release eight new Slash-branded guitars. The campaign is so important to Henry Juszkiewicz, chairman and CEO of Gibson Guitars, that he is taking the company's exciting Slash guitars off the market to create even more hype around the new ones.

Why eight? "Price points," Juszkiewicz says. "They're going to go from cheap to high-end custom, personally signed by Slash."

The Slash series will appear in stores March 15, and the guitarist and Juszkiewicz already are plotting a big stunt around the street date.

Didn't some say the Slash was not so important to the resurrection of the LP

what you saying now ??? hmm ??

[FLICKOFLASH]

Cheap appeals to the "Guitar Hero" crowd

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Didn't some say the Slash was not so important to the resurrection of the LP

what you saying now ??? hmm ??

Maybe some of the younger generations feel that way, For guys into solid Rock, I think some of us never allowed the Floyd Whammy guitars to overtake what we truly loved I think Page has had more an influence, as well as others, Gary Moore among others. I am not downing Slash but geesh, sometimes the hype of Hollywood style announcements gets as thick and heavy as the BS eminating from Washington DC

[FLICKOFLASH]

Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

Maybe some of the younger generations feel that way, For guys into solid Rock, I think some of us never allowed the Floyd Whammy guitars to overtake what we truly loved I think Page has had more an influence, as well as others, Gary Moore among others. I am not downing Slash but geesh, sometimes the hype of Hollywood style announcements gets as thick and heavy as the BS eminating from Washington DC

As a rocker from the 70's - 90s Page ,ACE, Frampton were the heavy hitters of the 70's The 80's Kramer, Jackson & charvel guitars were the rage , Guitar playing had moved into the shock n awe phase as for the big hair the 60+ notes per minute noodle lead guitar playing. Guys could do all sort of outrageous playing .Then came GnR & Slash put the guitar playing back into guitar & brought back song content. So different was his playing that being caught up in that day ,it's only in today’s world that I realize just how good his lead playing was & is today. I recommend everyone buy the appetite for destruction ( not one bad tune from beginning to end) believe all who do revisit will experience a new inner awakening

[ReverendJWblues]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Didn't some say the Slash was not so important to the resurrection of the LP

what you saying now ??? hmm ??

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Cheap appeals to the "Guitar Hero" crowd

Slash never made me run out and buy Les Paul But then again Im old school I was playing them before he was even alive. Everything runs in cycles the Les Paul will die out again someday. But I serously dont believe that Slash has resurected it on his own. Be honest with me here, if Zepplin comes back on a tour will Jimmy not influence many wannabe's. Who would attract the bigger crowds Zep or Velvet Revolver. And if cheap is what they wanna use for the Guitar Hero crowd I guess they will make it out of plastic.
Thats all they need hell they probably wont even put strings on it just a flipper button. Get your very own Gibson Slash autographed LP right here on Guitar Hero for the Low Low price of 29.99, lets get serious these kids dont wanna learn to play guitar, they wanna fiddle with their video games, thats where their talent lies. Lets all run out and get tattoos and nose rings cause Slash has them, lets all go get drunk and drug ourselves to death cause Slash does. "Cheap" yeah thats what it is, Cheap marketing to get people to accept whats thrown at them. But hey I'm just stupid assed prick that doesnt know any better. I mean I never reached stardom or did I Ive had a few dreams. I can see alot of guitarist's that influenced the ressurection. Glory be to Slash..............For he raised it from the dead.

Hallelujah..............The king is risen.
AMEN

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

As a rocker from the 70's - 90s Page ,ACE, Frampton were the heavy hitters of the 70's The 80's Kramer, jackson & charvel guitars were the rage , Guitar playing had moved into the shock n awe phaze as for the big hair the 60+ notes oer minute noodle lead guiatar playing. Guys could do all sort of outragios playing .Then came GnR & Slash put the guitar playing back into guitar & brought back song content. So different was his playing that being caught up in that day ,it's only in todays world that I realize just how good his lead playing was & is today.I reccomend everyone buy the appitite for destruction ( not one bad tune from beginning to end) believe all who do revisit will expierance a new innner awakening

Flick your observations here I am not disputing , its just some of us were die hard hold on's to our Les Pauls, Slash showed a younger generation you didnt need to have a one of those Charvels, Ibanez, or other Whammy guitars of the time to rock hard .Though in 1980, The Rev Billy Gibbons was still doing most of his concert songs with Miss Pearly Gates. Steve Clark of Def Leppard fame was also usually playing Les Pauls , and they were part of the big Hair wave bands of the 80s, as did Vivian Campbell who stepped in later to fill his shoes . Dickey Betts never lost sight of his Les Pauls. as did others like Gary Rossington, and many southern rock icons

[FLICKOFLASH]

Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

Flick your observations here I am not disputing , its just some of us were die hard hold on's to our Les Pauls, Slash showed a younger generation you didnt need to have a one of those Charvels, Ibanez, or other Whammy guitars of the time to rock hard .Though in 1980, The Rev Billy Gibbons was still doing most of his concert songs with Miss Pearly Gates. Steve Clark of Def Leppard fame was also usually playing Les Pauls , and they were part of the big Hair wave bands of the 80s, as did Vivian Campbell who stepped in later to fill his shoes . Dickey Betts never lost sight of his Les Pauls. as did others like Gary Rossington, and many southern rock icons

Ace, Gibbon, Campbell were not playing their LP's in mid 80's .I too had LPs in late 70's - 82 then sold all my LPs till 89 there was a Randy Rhodes pink pointy guitars era Jacksons ruled the roost then Ibanez thru Vai & Satriani

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Ace, Gibbon, Campbell were not playing their LP's in mid 80's .I too had LPs in late 70's - 82 then sold all my LPs till 89 there was a Randy Rhodes pink pointy guitars era Jacksons ruled the roost then Ibanez thru Vai & Satriani

Rockplast Show in Germany I have this whole thing, Billy only used his double neck for one song

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[Harpozep]

I'm older and lived to see the Lesters fight another day as well. Slash did bring about a reawakening to some, that is for sure. I don't even like GNR and I can safely say that with conviction ( It's Axel's voice that I really dislike ).

True, a number of guitarists held onto their Lesters, but a number of them went to the Dark Side via endorsements etc as well. Beside, during the big Rack era, guitars were nothing but triggers for electronic command chains. Tone? That was left in the dust for the most part. A few players emerged who kept tone alive, , SRV, Eric Johnson, and a few. But Satriani , Vai, etc, were
more into the shred thing than the tone thing.

Ya know, I still cringe at the site of Ibanez's with the built in hand grip.

In the '80's instruments were left in the dust and weapons ruled the land.

[ReverendJWblues]

In my first thread on this forum mentioned I had a Sig LP, I also mentioned I didnt buy it for the sig that I bought it because it helped with my arthritis. I damn sure didnt even come close to paying the price they wanted for it. Like I said I really didnt buy it for the Sig, if I did I wouldnt play it like I do it would be locked away. These Sig guitars for the most part are nothing more than any RI Gibson makes. If a Sig guitar with a bunch of hype is what it takes to make a sale so be it. But if they really want to sale more guitars, lower the outrageous price tag stuck on them. I mean hell brothers which one of you really honestly thinks that $4000.00 + RI youve bought is really worth that price. If you honesty did then why do so many of you modify them. Some may have a pretty chunck of wood but thats about it, and to me it damn sure aint worth that kinda money. But like the rest of ya Ive spent some coin on mine to. But if the prices were where they should be I'd spend more. I would have bought my Page even if it wasnt a Sig, I liked the neck, I didnt buy it as an investment, it will never be worth a fortune. But with the arthritis it keeps me playing thats all that counts to me.

[FLICKOFLASH]

Hollywood, CA 1979

Roman are you & Max doing a jeans ad in this shot ???

[FLICKOFLASH]

[Roman]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Hollywood, CA 1979

Roman are you & Max doing a jeans ad in this shot ???

Yup, and I painted the sign on the door. We actually had hours when I got there. before my arrival, the door was always locked and windows were covered up. If he felt like opening he would, if not........well.

I'll dig up some more old pics and scan them onto disc.....got some good ones

[LoKi]

I think the funny thing about the 80's was that a lot of guys were still recording with Les Pauls, even though on stage they wouldn't be caught dead with one. Nothing records better than a Lester.

I knew quite a few 'hair band' guys who recorded entire records with Pauls and on stage they'd be playing something neon pink or green with points and floyds. They'd even call Les Pauls an 'old mans guitar' if anybody asked em, but even they knew that nothing sounded better. The Paul wasn't dead in the 80's, it was very much alive behind the scenes.

Slash and GnR brought em out of the studio and back onto mainstream MTV.

[FLICKOFLASH]

Originally Posted by LoKi

I think the funny thing about the 80's was that a lot of guys were still recording with Les Pauls, even though on stage they wouldn't be caught dead with one. Nothing records better than a Lester.

I knew quite a few 'hair band' guys who recorded entire records with Pauls and on stage they'd be playing something neon pink or green with points and floyds. They'd even call Les Pauls an 'old mans guitar' if anybody asked em, but even they knew that nothing sounded better. The Paul wasn't dead in the 80's, it was very much alive behind the scenes.

Slash and GnR brought em out of the studio and back onto mainstream MTV.

Like to know who because guitar tone of the day was also out the door as Racks were huge & over processed. I know some used vintage Fenders ( L.S.D. ,Ace. Vinnie Vincent ) I even took a 25/50 anniversary in the studio ( never used it)& used a Fender Katana (concord shaped guitar)with EMG's & a MicroFrets guitar


Fender Katana

[FUS44]

I guess Gibson feels Slash is the most marketable guitar hero for their target demographic. Which is weird because I don't think too many kids are bookending
VR tunes with Fall Out Boy. I could be wrong.
They could care less about anyone over 25 IMO. They want new blood. Noobs they can bring back to the GC over and over again.
They've already got you (us, me.....). We've already bought into the whole "only a Gibson is Good Enough" Philosophy, we already buy every "new, improved" re-issue. They've got the Boomers and their kids hooked. Now it's time to go younger. They tried with BJA junior and the Blink es-333, but Green Day/blink aren't a "guitar hero" bands. If it's cool, I'd buy one.

[LoKi]

Twisted Sister for one. I once spent a REALLY annoying day with Dee. That guy is just too much.

Even though in videos and live they had those bullseye charvels and God knows what else, as long as it was pointy and pink.

Even though the stuff was toneless overprocessed crap, you can still hear the resonance of the Paul fighting to be heard through a multitude or rack gear on a few tracks.

C.C. had a few Les Paul type guitars. Not sure if they got a lot of studio use, but I know he's got an alpine white one with no neck pickup... Might not be a Gibson *probably isn't*.

And of course Ritchie Sambora... Not that he used them exclusively, but he has some damn nice Pauls.

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

So Slash isn't wearing a silly costume? This is how he REALLY dresses??

[LoKi]

Originally Posted by kink56

So Slash isn't wearing a silly costume? This is how he REALLY dresses??

I heard that Slash went out for Halloween dressed as himself, and some guys walked up to him and were like 'Hey your Slash costume is pretty good, but mines better!'

[lp59aholicDon]

Originally Posted by LoKi

I heard that Slash went out for Halloween dressed as himself, and some guys walked up to him and were like 'Hey your Slash costume is pretty good, but mines better!'

That would be funny if I were somebody famous and others did that to me, but who in their right mind would want to dress or look like me?

[marshallcrazy]

That photo of Roman and Max outside the store in L.A., tell me, guys, that that store front back then at quick glance doesn't look immediately make you think of the back cover of "Flirtin' With Disaster"!

[FLICKOFLASH]

Originally Posted by FLICKOFLASH

Hollywood, CA 1979

Roman are you & Max doing a jeans ad in this shot ???

I love to see more photo's Roman

[El Toro]

I find it amazing that there are people, who weren't even close to being involved , that have such strong opinions.

In the end, who gives a ****? I know the truth and don't care to engage further. There is no discussing facts with a zealot, so I'm out.

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Originally Posted by El Toro

I find it amazing that there are people, who weren't even close to being involved , that have such strong opinions.

In the end, who gives a ****? I know the truth and don't care to engage further. There is no discussing facts with a zealot, so I'm out.

El Toro ,I'm a great big ocean away from either Max ,Kris Derrig or Slash
but I have to say I,m totally rapt by this whole thread. We have ,whether
we like his character or not, one of the most influencial and charismatic
Rock Guitarists of the eighties .Also, in Max especially ,one of the most
noted and respected guitar makers out there. Add to this the relatively unknown Mr Derrig as the ''Pretender to the Throne'' and you have one of the
most intriguing Threads on the Forum.It's good that we have people like yourself with first hand knowledge , but it seems that once we
outsiders get hooked we stay well and truely hooked.

[Darkburst]

Based on what Slash has said repeatedly in interviews and his recent book the Derrig has been his main guitar since the recording of AFD. When he got the Max isn't entirely clear. In one of the interviews I posted Slash specifically states that it was after acquiring the Derrig. Other people claim it was sooner or both guitars were acquired at about the same time. Slash is also seen and photographed mainly playing the Derrig in the early AFD tours. Photographs of Velvet Revolver in the studio show Slash using the Derrig as his main recording guitar as well. Believe what you want, but the evidence shows that the Derrig was the main guitar used for recording Appetite for Destruction.

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Originally Posted by Darkburst

Based on what Slash has said repeatedly in interviews and his recent book the Derrig has been his main guitar since the recording of AFD. When he got the Max isn't entirely clear. In one of the interviews I posted Slash specifically states that it was after acquiring the Derrig. Other people claim it was sooner or both guitars were acquired at about the same time. Slash is also seen and photographed mainly playing the Derrig in the early AFD tours. Photographs of Velvet Revolver in the studio show Slash using the Derrig as his main recording guitar as well. Believe what you want, but the evidence shows that the Derrig was the main guitar used for recording Appetite for Destruction.

Hi Darkburst, I,ve read this thread from start to finish and enjoyed every bit
but I still don't know who was responsible fot the A.F.D. guitar .Myself and probably most folks, with a Rock Guitar intrest , in the UK had heard of Max guitars years before any mention of Kris.Thats not to say he didn't make the
AFD guitar ,just that to me and others Kris was not well known .