Orville by Gibson

RocknRoller · 11-06-2009, 10:47 PM

ok my question is,

Are 'ALL' Orville By Gibsons nitro finish?

I have herd conflicting stories. some have said that only higher end OBG models are, where others have said that all OBG's are nitro, and that 'Orville's' are all polly.

Can any one confirm?

Frails · 11-06-2009, 11:38 PM

My 1990 OBG BBC is. Can't speak for all.

vortexx · 11-07-2009, 12:38 AM

As far as I've heard all "Orville by Gibson"s have nitro and all "Orvilles" are poly.

UITA · 11-07-2009, 04:04 AM

All mine are, think I heard of an example that wasn't.

duff · 11-07-2009, 04:05 AM

my obg was to my surprise not nitro. I don't think it matters anyway, because i don't hear the difference between poly or nitro and the japanese "nitro" will not age as vintage gibsons or fenders..

my obg is now completely nitro, because it needed some repair and it was easier to just respray the guitar completely. But again i don't hear a difference..

vortexx · 11-07-2009, 05:00 AM

My OBG nitro has yellowed nicely but I have heard that OBG and the current Gibson Nitro contains ingredients that won't make it age like older nitro. Some call it a stabilizer.

hank · 11-07-2009, 07:13 AM

My '92 ObG LPR-59 has all the high-end specs, including nitro and fret edge binding. To me, a lightly poly'd finish does not harm. I've owned lower end Tokais with poly and could tell no tonal difference really.

Perhaps it's just a dead ear on my end. But, if given a choice, I'll try to get a nitro finish just because of its tradition.

UITA · 11-07-2009, 08:17 AM

Poly ages also?

tonebone · 11-07-2009, 08:53 AM

Everything ages.

Some more slowly than others.

Frails · 11-07-2009, 09:22 PM

Tonally I've never been able to tell. However, the aging process with nitro is something that is just more appealing to the eye compared to poly. I've personally never seen a cheap guitar with nitro so there's something to it from the nitro is better association perspective.

RocknRoller · 11-10-2009, 06:51 AM

So this thread concludes with us still not geting any closer to a straight answer!

I personly perfer nitro if i had the choice simply becuse of how it ages with the guitar,
I dont think id be able to tell the difference in sound, but as it is more labour intensive to put on over poly it is usualy regarded for higher end instruments.

So i guess i will have to do the acetone test on my OBG. not that it will make me like/dislike my guitar any more then i do now just cause its one or the other, but i guess its just always good to kno.

duff · 11-10-2009, 07:26 AM

the nitro on tokai's, obg's, greco's, burny's etc.. is different then on vintage gibsons and fenders, it never "checks", or how do u say that. No finish checking on these..

joebonsai · 11-10-2009, 08:12 AM

Can anybody help to identify this: Orville by Gibson 58V Korina SN:G1077XX
is it nitro? when was it built, are there stock Gibson parts built? (pots etc)

Thankx

Kate033 · 11-10-2009, 10:05 AM

My ObG has the nitro finish as I believe all ObG's do. The plain Orville guitars are hit and miss...majority are poly but I have seen a few with nitro. All the "K" serial stickered ones are poly. I think a lot of it has to do with the factory and time manufactured.

Most of the ObG's were made in FugiGen, but the earlier ones (pre 93' i think?) with the "G" or "J" in the serial number (which signified Gibson or Jap pickups) were made in Terada. I've found that the specs on these Terada made ObG's can vary while the FugiGen's seem to be consistent. While all I've seen are nitro, many do not have the long neck tenon, and some have 3 pc. necks and backs vs. the 2 pc. back and solid neck of the FugiGen made ObG's. Also, I've found the Terada made LP's to be heavy beasts....but that could be just luck of the draw.

UITA · 11-10-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duff

my obg was to my surprise not nitro

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Kate033 · 11-10-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joebonsai

Can anybody help to identify this: Orville by Gibson 58V Korina SN:G1077XX
is it nitro? when was it built, are there stock Gibson parts built? (pots etc)

Thankx

Some info on serial #'s Orville by Gibson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's likely a Terada made ObG. The ones made in Fugigen did not have letters in the serial. - the G would signify Gibson pickups instead of a J for Jap pups. I believe those serials are in the YMMPPP format which would make it July 1991, production batch 7xx.
The specs on the Terada made guitars I've found to be not nearly as consistent as FugiGen. You may have to check the guitar over in person to see if it was nitro or poly, etc.

RocknRoller · 11-11-2009, 01:16 AM

My OBG is a 92 G series, making it Terada made.
And yes use are right about their specs being here and there and everywhere,
mine has a 3 piece back, separate neck heal piece, how ever im led to believe it has a solid quilt top. either that or the plain maple underneith lined up 100% with the veneer centre seem when you look in the pup cavities.

Annoying Twit · 11-11-2009, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate033

It's likely a Terada made ObG. The ones made in Fugigen did not have letters in the serial. - the G would signify Gibson pickups instead of a J for Jap pups. I believe those serials are in the YMMPPP format which would make it July 1991, production batch 7xx.

Aren't quite a number of the MIJ brands made in the Fujigen factory? If so, isn't it the case that the "genuine" Gibbos (albeit labelled Orville) were being made side by side with the "copies"?

joebonsai · 11-11-2009, 08:15 AM

Thank you very much for the information

RocknRoller · 11-12-2009, 01:31 AM

Yes that is true about the fuji plant. Never thought of it that way!

vortexx · 11-12-2009, 04:57 AM

I should also add that the nitro that Gibson currently uses is not the same as in the 50's and 60's. I've also found out that all nitro contains plasiticizers as it's part of the nitro process to make it worksble. Plasicizers don't mean plastic or poly though.

11-06-2009, 10:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
RocknRoller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Orville by Gibson ok my question is, Are 'ALL' Orville By Gibsons nitro finish? I have herd conflicting stories. some have said that only higher end OBG models are, where others have said that all OBG's are nitro, and that 'Orville's' are all polly. Can any one confirm?

11-06-2009, 11:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Frails Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Orville by Gibson My 1990 OBG BBC is. Can't speak for all. __________________ Orville by Gibson Black Custom Les Paul Greco Cherry Sunburst Les Paul Tokai LS-105F/L VF Les Paul Custom "Gilmour" Black Fender Stratocaster Custom "1962 Model" Sonic Blue Fender Stratocaster Custom "1965 Model" Dakota Red Fender Stratocaster MIJ "1957 Reissue" Sunburst Fender Stratocaster

11-07-2009, 12:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
vortexx Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 72 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson As far as I've heard all "Orville by Gibson"s have nitro and all "Orvilles" are poly.

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UITA Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Wales Posts: 791 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson All mine are, think I heard of an example that wasn't. __________________ "Correct the wise man and he will thank you. Correct the fool and he will attack you."

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duff Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson my obg was to my surprise not nitro. I don't think it matters anyway, because i don't hear the difference between poly or nitro and the japanese "nitro" will not age as vintage gibsons or fenders.. my obg is now completely nitro, because it needed some repair and it was easier to just respray the guitar completely. But again i don't hear a difference..

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11-07-2009, 05:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
vortexx Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 72 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson My OBG nitro has yellowed nicely but I have heard that OBG and the current Gibson Nitro contains ingredients that won't make it age like older nitro. Some call it a stabilizer. __________________ 62 Epiphone Coronet Epiphone Korina V 58 re-issue Fretlight strat style Fender Baja Telecaster Orville By Gibson 59 re-issue Raven West Guitars LP style Lizardburst Fender J5 3 Telecaster Gibson V2 Epiphone Mo Baby WCR fillmore pickups PRS #10 pickups Gibson long magnet PAF

11-07-2009, 07:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
hank Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East of Mecca, in the Land of Gibson Posts: 397 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson My '92 ObG LPR-59 has all the high-end specs, including nitro and fret edge binding. To me, a lightly poly'd finish does not harm. I've owned lower end Tokais with poly and could tell no tonal difference really. Perhaps it's just a dead ear on my end. But, if given a choice, I'll try to get a nitro finish just because of its tradition. __________________

11-07-2009, 08:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
UITA Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Wales Posts: 791 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson Poly ages also? __________________ "Correct the wise man and he will thank you. Correct the fool and he will attack you."

11-07-2009, 08:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
tonebone Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,361 Thanks: 13 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson Everything ages. Some more slowly than others. __________________ there's something about seeing a bone-thin Page making love to that Gibson, sweat-soaked, scraggly hair flying, after all, in the end, it's only the music that matters...

11-07-2009, 09:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Frails Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 542 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Orville by Gibson Tonally I've never been able to tell. However, the aging process with nitro is something that is just more appealing to the eye compared to poly. I've personally never seen a cheap guitar with nitro so there's something to it from the nitro is better association perspective. __________________ Orville by Gibson Black Custom Les Paul Greco Cherry Sunburst Les Paul Tokai LS-105F/L VF Les Paul Custom "Gilmour" Black Fender Stratocaster Custom "1962 Model" Sonic Blue Fender Stratocaster Custom "1965 Model" Dakota Red Fender Stratocaster MIJ "1957 Reissue" Sunburst Fender Stratocaster

11-10-2009, 06:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
RocknRoller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson So this thread concludes with us still not geting any closer to a straight answer! I personly perfer nitro if i had the choice simply becuse of how it ages with the guitar, I dont think id be able to tell the difference in sound, but as it is more labour intensive to put on over poly it is usualy regarded for higher end instruments. So i guess i will have to do the acetone test on my OBG. not that it will make me like/dislike my guitar any more then i do now just cause its one or the other, but i guess its just always good to kno.

11-10-2009, 07:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
duff Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 119 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson the nitro on tokai's, obg's, greco's, burny's etc.. is different then on vintage gibsons and fenders, it never "checks", or how do u say that. No finish checking on these..

11-10-2009, 08:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
joebonsai Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Duesseldorf/Germany Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson Can anybody help to identify this: Orville by Gibson 58V Korina SN:G1077XX is it nitro? when was it built, are there stock Gibson parts built? (pots etc) Thankx

11-10-2009, 10:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kate033 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 913 Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson My ObG has the nitro finish as I believe all ObG's do. The plain Orville guitars are hit and miss...majority are poly but I have seen a few with nitro. All the "K" serial stickered ones are poly. I think a lot of it has to do with the factory and time manufactured. Most of the ObG's were made in FugiGen, but the earlier ones (pre 93' i think?) with the "G" or "J" in the serial number (which signified Gibson or Jap pickups) were made in Terada. I've found that the specs on these Terada made ObG's can vary while the FugiGen's seem to be consistent. While all I've seen are nitro, many do not have the long neck tenon, and some have 3 pc. necks and backs vs. the 2 pc. back and solid neck of the FugiGen made ObG's. Also, I've found the Terada made LP's to be heavy beasts....but that could be just luck of the draw.

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11-11-2009, 01:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
RocknRoller Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 100 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson My OBG is a 92 G series, making it Terada made. And yes use are right about their specs being here and there and everywhere, mine has a 3 piece back, separate neck heal piece, how ever im led to believe it has a solid quilt top. either that or the plain maple underneith lined up 100% with the veneer centre seem when you look in the pup cavities.

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11-12-2009, 04:57 AM	#21 (permalink)
vortexx Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 72 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Orville by Gibson I should also add that the nitro that Gibson currently uses is not the same as in the 50's and 60's. I've also found out that all nitro contains plasiticizers as it's part of the nitro process to make it worksble. Plasicizers don't mean plastic or poly though. __________________ 62 Epiphone Coronet Epiphone Korina V 58 re-issue Fretlight strat style Fender Baja Telecaster Orville By Gibson 59 re-issue Raven West Guitars LP style Lizardburst Fender J5 3 Telecaster Gibson V2 Epiphone Mo Baby WCR fillmore pickups PRS #10 pickups Gibson long magnet PAF

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