Greco Les Paul! Model Identification? LOTS OF PICS!

plecoman · 12-03-2007, 06:00 AM

I just got this yesterday as a guitar to play around with. I have 4 Gibson LPs and I wanted something I can gig with as a backup, and fool around with pickups. Something to Abuse! It is in a horrible "way too red/orange" finish, but it plays smooth, feels solid.

Any idea what the model is? It says 650 near the headstock is that a hint? The serial number says its either 81 or 84, since the first digit can be a 1 or 4. The PUs a re "Scream'in 1982" pickups, so I guess its more likely to be a 84 guitar. Any help would be great!

It does have a tiny bit of Flame going too:

Axeman16 · 12-03-2007, 08:01 AM

its an 84 EG59-50. came with stock sreamin' pickups.

plecoman · 12-03-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman16

its an 84 EG59-50. came with stock sreamin' pickups.

Do you mind telling me how you determined it was a EG59-50?

MIDNIGHT · 12-03-2007, 10:12 AM

sorry.. clueless on the model identification but just had to say.... nice guitar dude

congrats

Axeman16 · 12-03-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by plecoman

Do you mind telling me how you determined it was a EG59-50?

well its not a super real egf as the headstock is incorrect and there were no 650 egf models. only mint collection (82-91) models with bindig nibs are eg 59-85 and upward models. no les paul like script, incorrect truss rod cver....

boogie1 · 12-03-2007, 07:07 PM

Damn! Talk about an exact replica of a Lester! I might have to find one of those Greco's!

lp59aholicDon · 12-03-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boogie1

Damn! Talk about an exact replica of a Lester! I might have to find one of those Greco's!

Boogie, I have owned more than one, Exact down to the holly headstock vaneer and most have long tenon necks, Its a reverse engineered replica

tiedstick · 12-03-2007, 07:52 PM

Ah man, what a beauty. That's one of my dream guitars right there.

taypeng · 12-03-2007, 08:40 PM

what a beauty..yup its a "mint collection" series greco because of the open "O" in the headstock logo.

I think these models with the screaming 82 pups are getting quite rare?

plecoman · 12-03-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by taypeng

what a beauty..yup its a "mint collection" series greco because of the open "O" in the headstock logo.

I think these models with the screaming 82 pups are getting quite rare?

Thanks for the props! Just been playing it more. Not that keen on them Screamin 82 PUs... A little lifeless I think. OK, but nothing great. Anyone know the specs on these? Output? Magnet type? I thought these PUs were one of the cheapest ones Greco used?

The feel of the neck is not quite 50s, not chunky enough, kind of just slightly slimer than a 50s neck on a LP standard. Everything else feels great. Tuners could improve, otherwise its a lovely LP!

Axeman16 · 12-03-2007, 09:35 PM

the screamin pickups were somewhere in the middle range of the quality ladder. im not sure the magnet type, but i think they are alnico 5. the output is about mid from about 8-12k (neck and bridge)

lp59aholicDon · 12-03-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman16

the screamin pickups were somewhere in the middle range of the quality ladder. im not sure the magnet type, but i think they are alnico 5. the output is about mid from about 8-12k (neck and bridge)

I never got mine read but they did have a decent type of PAF Vibe to em but like early PAF's they were not wax potted so high gain amps could earn you some feed back real fast

Axeman16 · 12-04-2007, 07:26 AM

yea, i'd say they are paf'ish, but the best paf replica's were the dry pickups, so i they probably just wound these a bit more so they didnt compete with those since they were a lower model.

Harpozep · 12-04-2007, 08:06 AM

Cool find

I didn't realize they are as nice looking as that, and most had the long neck tenon too. I do think the longer tenon captures more of the vintage vibe.

Here is a cool looking one on ebay right now. Lots of great detailed pics too:

81's Vintage Greco EG Les Paul Custom ! Made in Japan ! - (eBay item 320190639984 end time Dec-06-07 14:50:17 PST)

plecoman · 12-04-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman16

yea, i'd say they are paf'ish, but the best paf replica's were the dry pickups, so i they probably just wound these a bit more so they didnt compete with those since they were a lower model.

Dry Zs... I was hoping when I looked under the PU it would have a Z on it.. oh well..

Probably gonna put some after market PUps in them soon. Its a great feeling, great playing, great weight guitar, wouldn't want to waste it using those stock Pus.

Axeman16 · 12-04-2007, 05:00 PM

the dry z pickup's are the best japanese paf copies. they are worth quite alot. they can go for about $500-$600. if it was me i would drop some gibson 57 classic's in. they are my favourite pickup. how much did that bad boy cost you?

plecoman · 12-05-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman16

the dry z pickup's are the best japanese paf copies. they are worth quite alot. they can go for about $500-$600. if it was me i would drop some gibson 57 classic's in. they are my favourite pickup. how much did that bad boy cost you?

I am over in the UK, so around $700-750US. Is that too much? You have to remember everything is normally (literally) twice as expensive in the UK. Gibson LP standards, for example, are around $2700-3000US new

Axeman16 · 12-05-2007, 09:58 PM

no, you ai apretty good price. they usually go fo arouhnd $800 US.

lp59aholicDon · 12-12-2007, 05:51 PM

First Ebay Les Paul, Direct from Japan

Axeman16 · 12-13-2007, 09:14 PM

Nice!

lp59aholicDon · 12-14-2007, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman16

Nice!

Wish I still had it, that guitar had alot of good charactor, as well as outstanding tone charactor

loneguitar · 12-14-2007, 10:11 PM

that is a beauty, I agree about the 57's, throw at set of those in her, thanks for the pics

BigC · 12-17-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by plecoman

I am over in the UK, so around $700-750US. Is that too much? You have to remember everything is normally (literally) twice as expensive in the UK. Gibson LP standards, for example, are around $2700-3000US new

Whereabouts in the UK are you?

I've never seen a Greco in any guitar shop over here, infact, until I found this website I'd never even heard of them!

FrankiePRS · 12-21-2007, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman16

the dry z pickup's are the best japanese paf copies. they are worth quite alot. they can go for about $500-$600. if it was me i would drop some gibson 57 classic's in. they are my favourite pickup. how much did that bad boy cost you?

Just FYI, I'd say from my experience that Burny VH-1 pickups from the 80's are every bit as good, if not better PAF clones as the Dry-Z's.

Here's one of my Grecos:

lp59aholicDon · 12-23-2007, 03:25 AM

One thing that can almost not be argued, when The Japanese set out to replicate things, they do so very well many times if unhindered I have heard many a Japanese pickup that was far superior to Fender or Gibson pickups that came stock in many 70's and 80s guitars

Axeman16 · 12-24-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

One thing that can almost not be argued, when The Japanese set out to replicate things, they do so very well many times if unhindered I have heard many a Japanese pickup that was far superior to Fender or Gibson pickups that came stock in many 70's and 80s guitars

agree.

plecoman · 12-26-2007, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigC

Whereabouts in the UK are you?

I've never seen a Greco in any guitar shop over here, infact, until I found this website I'd never even heard of them!

I am in central London. They dont appear often (at all). Try ebay US or UK and you will find some nice Japanese LPs like mine....

My Greco sounds better than my LP Standard with stock PUs.... GIBSON TAKE NOTE!

guitarguru · 12-26-2007, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plecoman

I just got this yesterday as a guitar to play around with. I have 4 Gibson LPs and I wanted something I can gig with as a backup, and fool around with pickups. Something to Abuse! It is in a horrible "way too red/orange" finish, but it plays smooth, feels solid.

Any idea what the model is? It says 650 near the headstock is that a hint? The serial number says its either 81 or 84, since the first digit can be a 1 or 4. The PUs a re "Scream'in 1982" pickups, so I guess its more likely to be a 84 guitar. Any help would be great!

It does have a tiny bit of Flame going too:

perfect carve!

BigC · 01-04-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plecoman

I am in central London. They dont appear often (at all). Try ebay US or UK and you will find some nice Japanese LPs like mine....

My Greco sounds better than my LP Standard with stock PUs.... GIBSON TAKE NOTE!

Right.

I had a look down Denmark St when I was searching for my Gibby LP but that place seems to be trading on its name now, and all the new LP Stds were about £300 over-priced!

Looks like you got a total bargain though!

framus · 03-04-2008, 03:35 AM

what a small world indeed... this very same guitar was for sale in denmark street last week... um... :-)

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