Burny LC-70RR Neck Thickness

[Sonex Reducer]

played my new '85 Matsumoku LC-70RR for eight hours today, and i love it. i just measured the neck and it looks to be 6/8th of an inch at the first fret and 7/8th of an inch at the 12th. and i'm really digging on it. seems beefy.

so please chime in with measurements taken from other RR's from kasuga or dyna or other mats, i'm really interested in how fat dynas can get because im told they have a 50's profile.

thanks.

[Mr Teeny]

Some measurements in this thread look at the burny RLC's - Dunno if your's is a RR as I always' thought they came' with the gold knobs rather than tophats and both mine have brass selector switches for some reason. The RLC's I have are both what I'd consider slim compared to my ObG 57B

Made in Japan Neck Profiles

[slapshot]

yar that be RLC-60

[Sonex Reducer]

Originally Posted by slapshot

yar that be RLC-60

you know....

maybe i should know what model i'm playing, ya think?

[slapshot]

yar if you want.i mean really though it's yours so you could call it a Bunny *FWA-66 if you wanted to.
but they did it to a few guitars.just add some trinkets to their stock model and bumped the price 10k yen
randy roads is a white custom with gold speed knobs,brass switch ring,square tuner knobs

FERNANDES CATALOG

i guess the search is over then?
and I had an 84 RR and it was thinner than the 89.more of a D shape I guess

[jacco]

except for that up to 1989 the only white custom was the RR..

[JDB]

mine was about an inch at the 12th, I think my conversion is right. Or 25 mm. And was a true burny RR custom from 1983.

[Mr Teeny]

Originally Posted by jacco

except for that up to 1989 the only white custom was the RR..

Are you sure? I thought the RR's had gold knobs etc my white LPC is spec'd the same as the RLC60's with black tophats and I'm sure it's stock whereas my later one is probably a RR due to the gold knobs switch etc. Plenty of the models don't appear in the catalogues but were made, plenty of various coloured LPC60's and the white LPC65's don't appear in the catalogue but they're out there.

[Sonex Reducer]

"mine was about an inch at the 12th, I think my conversion is right. Or 25 mm. And was a true burny RR custom from 1983."

that's pretty sweet.

[jacco]

Originally Posted by Mr Teeny

Are you sure? I thought the RR's had gold knobs etc my white LPC is spec'd the same as the RLC60's with black tophats and I'm sure it's stock whereas my later one is probably a RR due to the gold knobs switch etc. Plenty of the models don't appear in the catalogues but were made, plenty of various coloured LPC60's and the white LPC65's don't appear in the catalogue but they're out there.

Yep

[slapshot]

[jacco]

Dyna 1989

[Mr Teeny]

Going by the pots on mine it was a Dyna 1987, if the pot codes are correct.

[jacco]

all pots same code?

[Sonex Reducer]

Originally Posted by slapshot

i saw that one slapshot, i think you may have even pointed it out to me while i was looking for one. that neck is totally tasty. but after playing mine for another couple hours today, my hands are really finding the neck.

i play a lot of chuck berry / johnny thunders type rock n roll, hammering a lot with my pinky, and at first it was a little weird. but im grooving now.

i'm amazed at how quickly ive dialed in my 3 tones on this guitar. 2 days to do that seems super quick for me. it's ALL IN THE KNOBS BOYS! my amp and pedal just hang in one spot. and it's nice! iv'e got my rock n roll tone (thunders / jonesy to a T.) and a fat, fuzzy, 60's garage tone that i use on bluesy stuff i do (with a rhythm and lead position on the switch).

it's the first time ive ever played a guitar that actually sounds like it came off a record! an old record obviously

[Mr Teeny]

Originally Posted by jacco

all pots same code?

Nope a couple have 7D one has 7N and I can't read the other, too many wires in the way, that's if I'm correct reading the details off the top of the pot.

[slapshot]

nah that's a different one.been up for sale for aaaaaaaaaaages.

[jacco]

@Teeny that's november and december 1987 pots

[Aasern]

Originally Posted by Sonex Reducer

played my new '85 Matsumoku LC-70RR for eight hours today, and i love it. i just measured the neck and it looks to be 6/8th of an inch at the first fret and 7/8th of an inch at the 12th. and i'm really digging on it. seems beefy.

so please chime in with measurements taken from other RR's from kasuga or dyna or other mats, i'm really interested in how fat dynas can get because im told they have a 50's profile.

thanks.

My Burny LP, which I think is a LC-70RR, has the same measures as yours, 6/8th at the first and about 7/8th at the 12th. Not quite sure what year my model is, but 87-89 has been suggested, although my pot codes has the numbers 3, 4 and 5. Go figure

I agree with you, a beefy and really nice fat neck!

[Mr Teeny]

Originally Posted by jacco

@Teeny that's november and december 1987 pots

Thanks, so would that mean it's a LC-70RR then? It'd be a pretty poor RR with the black top hats, but guess evry little helps if I ever sell it.

[jacco]

No it could be a RLC-60. This one most definitely was made somewhere in 1988 with htose pot codes. From what I've learned the new models were available in october every year. Because the white RLC-60 features for the first time in the 1989 catalog this most likely was one of the first models to be sold late 1988.
Does it have a maho cap?

[Mr Teeny]

Haven't checked by removing paint but looking in the pot cavities it looks open grained so I'm assuming mahogany. I thought the RLC60's were spec'd with either maple or mahogany.

I'm not disputing it's an 87 RR model just wondering why they'd be made with the black top hats instead of the gold knobs , brass poker chip etc that you'd associate with the RR models. And plenty of colours were made that don't actually appear in the catalogues so even though it'd seem strange for them not to include a white LPC model in the catalogues it seems stranger that they wouldn't be making just a bog standard whte LPC alongside the black and cherry burst ones. Just wondering if you had info other than the catalogues you were basing the fact all whte LPC's pre 1989 were RR models

[jacco]

Burst finish had maple cap, solid finish maho cap on RLC-60s. That's why the catalog says maple OR maho top.
I'm saying that with those features it is a late 1988 RLC-60.

[Mr Teeny]

Originally Posted by jacco

Burst finish had maple cap, solid finish maho cap on RLC-60s. That's why the catalog says maple OR maho top.
I'm saying that with those features it is a late 1988 RLC-60.

K, were the RR's maple capped then? I'd imagine installing the pots etc would pretty much be the last stage before sale, would the pots usually be around a year old on these though, I'd have thought they'd be churning them out by the bucket load.

[snaredrum]

Originally Posted by Aasern

My Burny LP, which I think is a LC-70RR, has the same measures as yours, 6/8th at the first and about 7/8th at the 12th. Not quite sure what year my model is, but 87-89 has been suggested, although my pot codes has the numbers 3, 4 and 5. Go figure

I agree with you, a beefy and really nice fat neck!

that looks almost the same colour as the Gibson version... love it.

[snaredrum]

i've never had a custom lp before. starting to itch for one now.

[jacco]

Originally Posted by Mr Teeny

K, were the RR's maple capped then? I'd imagine installing the pots etc would pretty much be the last stage before sale, would the pots usually be around a year old on these though, I'd have thought they'd be churning them out by the bucket load.

Yes, RRs were male capped, from the top of my head in 1990 Dyna did do maho on both RLC and RR.
I have seen pots installed on a Dyna Burny guitar up to 11 months apart, so yes the can be installed quite later than produced, turnover time did change

[Mr Teeny]

Originally Posted by jacco

Yes, RRs were male capped, from the top of my head in 1990 Dyna did do maho on both RLC and RR.
I have seen pots installed on a Dyna Burny guitar up to 11 months apart, so yes the can be installed quite later than produced, turnover time did change

Thanks so that would put my diamond heastock burny as 1988 one of the first RLC60's. Just looked thru the 90 and 89 catalogues and it was the 90's RR that was mahogany whereas the 89 RR was maple.

I've a lightening bolt burny with 89 pots I'll have to check which top that has as I'm assuming it's a RR from the knobs.

[jacco]

Maple cap on that one?

[Mr Teeny]

Think it's mahogany from some internal pics i did ages ago

I'm assuming the routing for the pots goes thru to the cap and that looks open grained for mahogany