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Unread 10-22-2010, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

Hi all,

New member here. Considering picking up a new LP, and after doing a bunch of reading (both here and other forums) I've decided to pursue a MIJ LP.

I'm suffering from information overload a bit, but based on what I've read, I think I've narrowed my choice down to either an Edwards E-LP-92 or 98 (I know the only difference is the finish) or a Tokai LS98. I've narrowed it down to these two based on features and how available they are (I know I should try to go the used route, but not having much luck finding much here in the US that's in my price range). I don't mind buying new.

These two models seem to be pretty much the same (based on my complete inexperience on the subject). I know the pickups are different (Edwards has the SD '59s in neck, sh4 in the bridge; Tokai has the PAF style Mk II's), and they run about the same price. Both have a veneer finish, mohagony body, etc. Any other things to compare and contrast between the two? Is one head and shoulders better than the other? Which would you go with?

One last thing, if I do buy new, I've found several sources to purchase (thanks to this forum), but can anyone help me figure out what the import tariff would be? Based on what I was able to find online, I think it's about 5-6%, but not sure I'm checking the right resources.

Thanks for the input, and apologies for the long post.
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Unread 10-22-2010, 04:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

First off, welcome to MLP and soon to the Edwards club!!

If you can put a few more coins together, I would recommend that you move up to the top of the Edwards LP line and get a E-LP-130LTS/RE. The 130 brings a nitro finish and SD Antiquities, if you don't mind the slight relicing.

Odds are better than even that you will not be assessed any import tariff--assuming that you are in the US..
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

At this point, I think you're going to be able to score a nice Edwards cheaper than you can score a nice Tokai, at least based on the pricing I've done. You can often find an Edwards 92 or 98 for well under a grand with case in the states already. They are damn fine guitars. I have nothing against Tokai or any of the other MIJ models, but I have experience with Edwards having owned a half-dozen of them.

On either of the two models you mentioned, you'll get SD '59/JB pickups, all gotoh hardware, bone nut, a long neck tenon, one piece mahogany neck and one piece mahogany body. Fit and finish are tops, and they're usually 8 lbs or less.
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

Thanks guys for the info. The E-LP-130 does sound nice. It's probably a bit more than I want to spend right now (new anyway), but I've yet to find one on ebay, or a couple of the Japan retailers I've looked at. There's a few more I need to check out using Google translation tool.

That's good to know about the import tariffs. Yes, I'm in the US.

I hope you're right about finding used here in the US cheeseflavor, because I've looked over the last week and a half or so and have only seen one or 2 auctions...any tips on another place to look? You might be right on the pricing for the used market, but it seems that the LS98 and E-LP-98 are within about 50 bucks of each other new, which is why I was wondering what the key differences were between the two.
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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First off, welcome to MLP and soon to the Edwards club!!

If you can put a few more coins together, I would recommend that you move up to the top of the Edwards LP line and get a E-LP-130LTS/RE. The 130 brings a nitro finish and SD Antiquities, if you don't mind the slight relicing.

Odds are better than even that you will not be assessed any import tariff--assuming that you are in the US..

no more to say!!!!

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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

Thanks for the heads up joe, but I was just a little too late. the search continues....

Also, I have a new deliemma...I had it pretty straight in my mind that I wanted one with buckers, but I keep getting drawn in to the GT with P90's. I love P90's, but both of my current guitars are both single coils (a tele and a casino)...a LP with buckers would be a better compliment to my current lineup. Who am I kidding though, I'll probably eventually end up with both...
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

I got a 92 recently and I was amazed by the overall quality for the money it costed me (around 800 with shipping to greece and import tax).

Although, I'd rather have 2 59's than the JB in the bridge and the original setup was horrendous. It took me a couple of days to properly adjust the truss rod and get an even buzz-free action. And the nut could have been cut better. Also the strings seemed too flat for the radius (saddles not notched properly) The Gotoh bridge with the wire isn't the best either and I plan to replace it with a faber bridge with brass saddles.

It's got good wood, good finish and great freats and IMO those are the important things. You can fix everything else. It cost me another 100-150 in materials and a pickup to turn what seemed like a good value guitar into a really great one.
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

I think I may have picked this up somewhere else on the forums, so correct me if I'm wrong but Edwards has a long tendon while the tokai LS98 only has a medium tendon. Plus if you spring for the Edwards 98LTS/LTC you get nitro over a thin coat of poly while the tokai I believe is just poly. Either way, great guitars!
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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tenons...i meant neck tenons
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

I hear ya bro'. :-)
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

I own all three of these guitars. You wont go wrong with any of them.

My personal opinion is, given the three models, Edwards E-LP-92, Edwards E-LP-98, or Tokai LS98, I would recommend to go with the Edwards. Even my Son tells me the Edwards is slightly better in sound and feel.

Build quality you wont have to worry about cause both guitars are made pretty awesome.

Not sure about customs for you but I have purchaced well over 12 guitars from Japan and not once was I charged a customs fee. I know I was just lucky.

I purchaced most of my guitars from Yasou of Groovin Music on ebay (yasoohmusic1109). He has got a great reputation and great prices I think. He sells both Edwards, and Tokai.
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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I own all three of these guitars. You wont go wrong with any of them.

My personal opinion is, given the three models, Edwards E-LP-92, Edwards E-LP-98, or Tokai LS98, I would recommend to go with the Edwards. Even my Son tells me the Edwards is slightly better in sound and feel.

Build quality you wont have to worry about cause both guitars are made pretty awesome.

Not sure about customs for you but I have purchaced well over 12 guitars from Japan and not once was I charged a customs fee. I know I was just lucky.

I purchaced most of my guitars from Yasou of Groovin Music on ebay (yasoohmusic1109). He has got a great reputation and great prices I think. He sells both Edwards, and Tokai.
Yasooh is always getting better tops than the other sellers, too. (I wonder if that bothers katana at all? )
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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I own all three of these guitars. You wont go wrong with any of them.

My personal opinion is, given the three models, Edwards E-LP-92, Edwards E-LP-98, or Tokai LS98, I would recommend to go with the Edwards. Even my Son tells me the Edwards is slightly better in sound and feel.

Build quality you wont have to worry about cause both guitars are made pretty awesome.

Not sure about customs for you but I have purchaced well over 12 guitars from Japan and not once was I charged a customs fee. I know I was just lucky.

I purchaced most of my guitars from Yasou of Groovin Music on ebay (yasoohmusic1109). He has got a great reputation and great prices I think. He sells both Edwards, and Tokai.
Thanks a lot for the info. At this point I think I'm going to try to see if an E-LP-130 does become available, but it is good to know that you enjoy the E-92/98 (and in all honesty, that's probably all the guitar I need).

Thanks for the recommendation of Yasou. Based on this forum and others, I had pretty much narrowed it down to him or guitarjapan, but it sounds like you can't go wrong with Yasou.
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

One of these days a will pick up a Edwards E-LP-130 Lemon Drop. I dont have the Lemon Drop yet.
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Re: Edwards E-LP-92/98 vs. Tokai LS98

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...I purchaced most of my guitars from Yasou of Groovin Music on ebay (yasoohmusic1109). He has got a great reputation and great prices I think. He sells both Edwards, and Tokai.
Actually katanasixstring (another ebayer) has just a little bit better prices than those two - usually.

But ol' yasou always gets the "good lookers," for just a little more.

The guitarjapan place is overpriced, IMO.

All three are very reputable and safe.
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