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Unread 10-17-2011, 07:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My Zachary Guitars Experience

Well, things had gotten to a state where I was very cynical about the guitar industry and I decided to give the infamous Zachary Guitars a try. I had to go through a very long "qualification" process and waited over a month and a half for the guitar. Alex spent two weeks alone looking for a case, only to put it in the original case he had it in. This is the guitar in question: 7 String Guitar

...and it wasn't worth it. Something is very wrong with the tone of this guitar. It's compressed and fuzzy to an extent that I've never heard with other electrics. This may have do with the fact that the strings are almost two years old, or the fact that there's some very annoying fret buzz along the bottom four strings, in addition to the open G. When I mentioned this to Alex, he got very defensive and said that fret buzz is normal because you have "metal on metal." Also, the access to the upper frets is very limited. In fact, basically everything above the 17th fret is unplayable. This issue miffs me the most. People don't just have frets to look at, after all.

I asked Alex if he would take a return, but to no avail. So therefore, I have some very tough choices ahead of me. I could leave it the way it is and be very unhappy with it. I could take it to a tech and risk pissing Alex off. I could sell it on eBay and risk REALLY pissing Alex (and his inner circle) off. Regardless, this is a sad situation because I'm broke and do not have a fully functional electric. I feel rather taken advantage of, like someone who grew disillusioned with religion but turned to a crazy cult rather than atheism. I wanted this guitar to be great, but its just not, which is a bummer because I like Alex and think his philosophy is mostly correct.

The moral of the story is, Zachary Guitars are not for everyone. If you've had a nagging curiosity about these guitars, you're probably better off not bothering. This guitar alone is enough to convince me that they're a far cry from "the best in the world."
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Unread 10-17-2011, 09:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Try to sell it. Alex is going to get pissed off anyway when he sees this post,.
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Re: My Zachary Guitars Experience

This guy sounds like a real asshole


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Re: My Zachary Guitars Experience

Sounds like you didn't know what you wanted in the first place, too. I'm not taking sides,
that guitar looks as weird as it gets (I'm referring to his wood choice). I think that, when
you have a custom guitar built, you should provide more feedback and your luthier should
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This Zachary guy sounds like he likes to overengineer everything but can't play squat.
I hope I'm wrong. If I'm not, I know his type.
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Sounds like you didn't know what you wanted in the first place, too. I'm not taking sides,
that guitar looks as weird as it gets (I'm referring to his wood choice). I think that, when
you have a custom guitar built, you should provide more feedback and your luthier should
use it.

This Zachary guy sounds like he likes to overengineer everything but can't play squat.
I hope I'm wrong. If I'm not, I know his type.
Reminds me a little of Ed Roman. When he talks about his strings.
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Reminds me a little of Ed Roman. When he talks about his strings.
Yep, I too thought of him. Unfortunately I know others as well.
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I like how the low 'B' is wound in the opposite direction.
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Sounds like you didn't know what you wanted in the first place, too. I'm not taking sides,
that guitar looks as weird as it gets (I'm referring to his wood choice). I think that, when
you have a custom guitar built, you should provide more feedback and your luthier should
use it.

This Zachary guy sounds like he likes to overengineer everything but can't play squat.
I hope I'm wrong. If I'm not, I know his type.
This was not a custom guitar. He builds them all for himself. I thought it would be a good match for me in all honesty, and it would be if it didn't have the problems I pointed out.
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Just sell it. Who cares what the builder thinks? It's your guitar and your money. If you don't like it, then it's not a guitar you need to keep.
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I like how he claims the string companies are fvcking us over, but he never explains why and how.

Anyway, take it to a tech, if he/she can't fix it, sell it.

And if your product isn't working and fret buzz is expected... That should say somthing.
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Strings should set atop the nut, not be down in the middle of it, this will make the strings sound "fuzzy"

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He sounds too much like that Ed Roman guy. Lots of hot air. They must be related.

"Regardless of how much money you have, I will not sell you any guitar if I feel its not right for you or that you don't deserve to own it. "

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Re: My Zachary Guitars Experience

TKOjams nailed that one. Nut looks to be cut Waaaaay too deep.
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I had to go through a very long "qualification" process and waited over a month and a half for the guitar.
There's the big problem I have with the whole "experience"
If you have to qualify before he'll sell you a guitar--then I'm sorry the deal is off.
Well, actually, I'm not even sorry.
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There's the big problem I have with the whole "experience"
If you have to qualify before he'll sell you a guitar--then I'm sorry the deal is off.
Well, actually, I'm not even sorry.
I actually like the fact that he makes people qualify. He wants to make sure that a) you're serious about buying one of his guitars, b) you can play it, and c) you're actually going to use it. The irony is, this guitar is so dysfunctional that if I were to keep it, it would turn into somewhat of a wall piece. Such a bummer cause I was prepared to make it my main axe.
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My impression of the guitar:



My impression of the luthier:

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So this guy will get upset if you have your guitar set up??? If he gets upset... so what???? What can he do to you? Like you'll ever want another one of his guitars anyway.

Sounds like a real wank with even more nerve. It's your guitar. Do what you need to do to make it usable or ready for sale. Period.

Once he sold it to you and then refused customer service, it's none of his damn business what you do with your guitar.
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Also, as to what you should do, I'd choose the course most likely to piss him the fvck off. And then I'd link him to a video of it.
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I actually like the fact that he makes people qualify. He wants to make sure that a) you're serious about buying one of his guitars, b) you can play it, and c) you're actually going to use it. The irony is, this guitar is so dysfunctional that if I were to keep it, it would turn into somewhat of a wall piece. Such a bummer cause I was prepared to make it my main axe.
I find it quite arrogant that he does that.
It is his company and he has the right to run it as he sees fit, and I don't think he's breaking any laws.
But his whole attitude is arrogant and I am exercising my right not to buy from him, just as you exercised your right to buy from him.
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If you like the guitar, take it to a tech and get it fixed.
If not, sell!
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Why would you worry about pissing this asshole off anyway? Do whatcha gotta do man.
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You guys aren't helping my efforts to instigate an IRL troll.
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So this guy will get upset if you have your guitar set up??? If he gets upset... so what???? What can he do to you? Like you'll ever want another one of his guitars anyway.

Sounds like a real wank with even more nerve. It's your guitar. Do what you need to do to make it usable or ready for sale. Period.

Once he sold it to you and then refused customer service, it's none of his damn business what you do with your guitar.
Yes...a wank indeed
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We are also all idiots for not buying his amp called the Skank

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You guys aren't helping my efforts to instigate an IRL troll.
Guys. Thump is instigating an IRL troll. THUMP - is instigating an IRL troll. OP, by all means take this as a sign!

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I like how the low 'B' is wound in the opposite direction.
AND SO IS THE HIGH E?

I would never qualify for one of these gems.
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You can't make this shit up:

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Apparently he doesn't own his own amp.
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Its designed for ME alone. So you know its going to be good. After all, its for ME.

Sounds like he knows his shit.
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I actually like the fact that he makes people qualify. He wants to make sure that a) you're serious about buying one of his guitars, b) you can play it, and c) you're actually going to use it. The irony is, this guitar is so dysfunctional that if I were to keep it, it would turn into somewhat of a wall piece. Such a bummer cause I was prepared to make it my main axe.
Talk about up his own arse - he makes guitars for people to buy, right?
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I think if I were to look up narcissist in Webster's there would be a picture of this guy as an example.
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