Middle Pup In Customs?

61LPSG · 11-03-2007, 10:47 PM

Hi All,
I'm new here, but you guys seem to have all the answers.
My question is: what pickup was used in the middle position on the '61 SG (LP Customs)? I have one but don't want to de-solder it just to check the resistance. Of course they are all PAF's , but I always wondered if it was the same as the neck, or bridge pup, or a whole different animal.

Any help would be appreciated.

Paul · 11-03-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 61LPSG

Hi All,
I'm new here, but you guys seem to have all the answers.
My question is: what pickup was used in the middle position on the '61 SG (LP Customs)? I have one but don't want to de-solder it just to check the resistance. Of course they are all PAF's , but I always wondered if it was the same as the neck, or bridge pup, or a whole different animal.

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm not really familiar with the three pickup models but if my memory serves me correctly i remember reading in one of my gibson books that it is a neck pickup with a hotter output I'm not 100% sure though.

just an off topic question, can you post some picks?

61LPSG · 11-03-2007, 11:36 PM

Paul,I will have to wait til tomorrow and shoot some pics in sunlight, my room lighting
won't cut it in macro mode. Thanks for replying.

Paul · 11-03-2007, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 61LPSG

Paul,I will have to wait til tomorrow and shoot some pics in sunlight, my room lighting
won't cut it in macro mode. Thanks for replying.

i know what you mean i cant get any good photo's with any type of artificial lighting.

murkat · 11-07-2007, 05:37 PM

There all the same. just radomly picked from a box of pickups. nothing special.

Shawn Fate · 11-07-2007, 06:39 PM

The 3 in my custom are all '57 classics, but its not a '61 .
also it is out of phase with the neck pick up.

Anchorman · 11-07-2007, 06:45 PM

Is there a sound clip (or video clip) anywhere demonstrating a 3 pickup les paul custom or SG?

I wonder if having the pickups so close to each other affects their performance.

Paul · 11-09-2007, 04:08 AM

i had a look through my books and it turns out they use neck pickups in th middle position.

61LPSG · 11-12-2007, 09:59 PM

Thanks Paul, everyone.
I suspected it was but could never bring myself to dissect it and put the meter on it. The way it's wired the Middle Pos. is Bridge + Middle.

HolyGrail · 11-13-2007, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by murkat

There all the same. just radomly picked from a box of pickups. nothing special.

You heard it from Murkat First Hand.

If anyone knows the true facts, it's him.

Thanks Murkat !
HG

lineboss58 · 11-15-2007, 12:33 PM

I have a 70s three pickup les paul and an old guitar mag review on it, a special humbucker was put into the middle position. I couldnt say exactly what without digging out the review, and yes that many pickups does have an effect on the strings. Cant say what they put on modern three pickup les pauls though. Just a mention to anyone who might be interested, I had the chance to try many years ago an old three pickup black beauty. It was wired in a strange manner you could have the neck pu on alone, you could have the middle pu on alone. In the centre selection you had the middle pickup on up to volume 8 then above that up to 10 you had the middle and bridge out of phase with each other!! you could not have the bridge pickup on its own. This guitar was totally origonal when I checked the serial number it turned out to be a 1966 one. Yes I know that les paul production stopped between 60 and 68 however you could custom order from kalamazoo a discontinued model and they would build it for you. My point is I wonder how many more are out there.

61LPSG · 11-18-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lineboss58

I have a 70s three pickup les paul and an old guitar mag review on it, a special humbucker was put into the middle position. I couldnt say exactly what without digging out the review, and yes that many pickups does have an effect on the strings. Cant say what they put on modern three pickup les pauls though. Just a mention to anyone who might be interested, I had the chance to try many years ago an old three pickup black beauty. It was wired in a strange manner you could have the neck pu on alone, you could have the middle pu on alone. In the centre selection you had the middle pickup on up to volume 8 then above that up to 10 you had the middle and bridge out of phase with each other!! you could not have the bridge pickup on its own. This guitar was totally origonal when I checked the serial number it turned out to be a 1966 one. Yes I know that les paul production stopped between 60 and 68 however you could custom order from kalamazoo a discontinued model and they would build it for you. My point is I wonder how many more are out there.

Interesting. Mine seems to be:
mostly middle pup + some bridge -Middle pos.
mostly bridge pup + some middle -Bridge pos.
Wiring looks virgin.

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61LPSG Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the shadow of TMI Posts: 635 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Middle Pup In Customs? Hi All, I'm new here, but you guys seem to have all the answers. My question is: what pickup was used in the middle position on the '61 SG (LP Customs)? I have one but don't want to de-solder it just to check the resistance. Of course they are all PAF's , but I always wondered if it was the same as the neck, or bridge pup, or a whole different animal. Any help would be appreciated.

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61LPSG Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the shadow of TMI Posts: 635 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Middle Pup In Customs? Paul,I will have to wait til tomorrow and shoot some pics in sunlight, my room lighting won't cut it in macro mode. Thanks for replying.

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Paul V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: australia Posts: 1,298 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Middle Pup In Customs? i had a look through my books and it turns out they use neck pickups in th middle position. __________________ My gear: epi ltd ed, wildkat. 1974 epi' crestwood countdown to strat $550 left amps: 1994 fender black face "evil twin" with behringer 4X12 (bugera speakers) "these knobs go up to eleven" "why dont you just make it go upto ten and have ten be the highest?" ".......but these go up to eleven"

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61LPSG Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the shadow of TMI Posts: 635 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Middle Pup In Customs? Thanks Paul, everyone. I suspected it was but could never bring myself to dissect it and put the meter on it. The way it's wired the Middle Pos. is Bridge + Middle. __________________ Sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt...

11-15-2007, 12:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
lineboss58 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 185 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Middle Pup In Customs? I have a 70s three pickup les paul and an old guitar mag review on it, a special humbucker was put into the middle position. I couldnt say exactly what without digging out the review, and yes that many pickups does have an effect on the strings. Cant say what they put on modern three pickup les pauls though. Just a mention to anyone who might be interested, I had the chance to try many years ago an old three pickup black beauty. It was wired in a strange manner you could have the neck pu on alone, you could have the middle pu on alone. In the centre selection you had the middle pickup on up to volume 8 then above that up to 10 you had the middle and bridge out of phase with each other!! you could not have the bridge pickup on its own. This guitar was totally origonal when I checked the serial number it turned out to be a 1966 one. Yes I know that les paul production stopped between 60 and 68 however you could custom order from kalamazoo a discontinued model and they would build it for you. My point is I wonder how many more are out there.

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