SG Headstock Defect

StompIt · 09-30-2011, 07:24 AM

Hey Guys,
Just received my new SG Standard from MF yesterday and overall I'm extremely pleased. Amazing tone and playability. Just have one issue. There is a manufacturing defect on the headstock starting at the nut and going under the truss rod cover. I know that MF will take it back and exchange it, but Im wondering if defects of this nature are common and that I may end up with something similar on the next one. The neck on this one is fantastic.. no buzzes or dead zones.

thanks in advance!

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bgfthntr · 09-30-2011, 07:43 AM

That's unacceptable to me. I'd call them ASAP and have them ship you a new one and pay for the return shipping. This should have NEVER left the factory.

Jim

benjammin420 · 09-30-2011, 07:45 AM

I've never come across that type of defect before

StompIt · 09-30-2011, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgfthntr

That's unacceptable to me. I'd call them ASAP and have them ship you a new one and pay for the return shipping. This should have NEVER left the factory.

Jim

When I saw it I said.. "How could the tech possibly not see this when he installed the truss rod cover?!? "

Inside Guy · 09-30-2011, 08:08 AM

Should have never left the store either.

randelli · 09-30-2011, 08:18 AM

Is that.........Bondo??

StompIt · 09-30-2011, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randelli

Is that.........Bondo??

You know.. now that you mention it, it looks EXACTLY like Bondo !

Inside Guy · 09-30-2011, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StompIt

You know.. now that you mention it, it looks EXACTLY like Bondo !

It's probably buffing compound. You will find compound in every Gibson truss rod cavity.

Joe Dirt · 09-30-2011, 04:35 PM

Must have been a Friday guitar.

68_Mustang · 09-30-2011, 07:42 PM

Send it back, IMHO all the SG Standards have a nice necks. For the price of that guitar, it is unacceptable. My SG Standard is awesome, great guitar.

68_Mustang · 09-30-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Inside Guy

Should have never left the store either.

At least without a hefty discount.

Thumpalumpacus · 09-30-2011, 08:21 PM

Add my voice to the "send it back" contingent.

68_Mustang · 09-30-2011, 08:38 PM

It looks like just a cosmetic issue, but for a $1000 guitar, it is totally unacceptable. I won't pay $300 for a guitar that has a flaw like that.

StompIt · 09-30-2011, 09:04 PM

Thanks Guys! I sent it back to MF tonight... I should have my replacement SG by the middle of next week!

HRC · 09-30-2011, 09:17 PM

Good decision. Let us know how the new one works out.

jason_mazzy · 09-30-2011, 09:37 PM

StompIt · 10-06-2011, 11:17 AM

Got the replacement SG yesterday and IM GOOD to GO! It looks great. However, the setup was lacking. It had a bit too much relief and the action was set way high. After 30 minutes of adjustment it plays as good as the last one.

Thanks everyone!

randelli · 10-06-2011, 11:20 AM

Glad it worked out!!

HRC · 10-06-2011, 11:21 AM

Dan · 10-06-2011, 11:36 AM

Glad you sent it back!

5F6-A · 10-06-2011, 02:09 PM

brilliant!!

randelli · 10-06-2011, 05:15 PM

How about a few full-body glamour shots!!

PapaSquash · 10-06-2011, 06:52 PM

Where does the screwed-up one end up? If it plays that well it should go to a school or something. Or do they just disappear out of MF's back door?

noah76 · 10-09-2011, 12:19 AM

I don't understand how that got passed QC. That should have never left the factory. Well I'm glad you got a new guitar and are happy with it. But this shouldn't of happened in the first place. Rock on

Thumpalumpacus · 10-09-2011, 12:57 AM

Nice to see a happy ending.

StompIt · 10-09-2011, 09:18 AM

Well.... I spoke too soon. I was checking the neck relief closely yesterday and saw what looked like a flake of wood. Upon closer inspection I realized that there are at least four areas on the fretboard where the rosewood is missing. Im not sure what would cause this in the Gibson process, but its not going to stay at my house. I looked over my old Les Paul just to make sure I wasnt crazy and its smooth as silk. On the second photo, there are actually two areas of flaked out wood on either side of the separated area (On the right side defect , right at the fretwire, is where I saw the lifted flake that caught my eye).

Im going to send this one back for a refund. I'm really surprised about the lack of QC on these USA guitars. Im really not trying to complain or knock Gibson, because my LP has been one of my favorites over the years. Maybe I need to try a company like Wildwood who will thoroughly check over the guitar.

Ralph

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Marlboro13 · 10-09-2011, 11:27 AM

Dude, this fretboard looks like demolition wood.

BluesDisciple · 10-09-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus

Add my voice to the "send it back" contingent.

Me too. That's a no-go.

WahChickaWahWah · 10-09-2011, 02:19 PM

Wow. Why not try Sweetwater?

Prices are competitive enough and you can view photos of and select the actual instrument you will be shipped.

StompIt · 10-09-2011, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahChickaWahWah

Wow. Why not try Sweetwater?

Prices are competitive enough and you can view photos of and select the actual instrument you will be shipped.

Yeah.. youre right. They have a good rep.

09-30-2011, 07:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
StompIt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SG Headstock Defect Hey Guys, Just received my new SG Standard from MF yesterday and overall I'm extremely pleased. Amazing tone and playability. Just have one issue. There is a manufacturing defect on the headstock starting at the nut and going under the truss rod cover. I know that MF will take it back and exchange it, but Im wondering if defects of this nature are common and that I may end up with something similar on the next one. The neck on this one is fantastic.. no buzzes or dead zones. thanks in advance! https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...0/DSC03815.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...0/DSC03821.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/DSC03824.JPG

09-30-2011, 07:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
bgfthntr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Foothills of the Adirondacks Posts: 272 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect That's unacceptable to me. I'd call them ASAP and have them ship you a new one and pay for the return shipping. This should have NEVER left the factory. Jim Leendrix, Hawksquat and Thumpalumpacus like this. __________________ 1961 Airline (by Harmony) Flat Top 1974 Gibson Blue Ridge Custom 1979/1981 Fender Stratocaster 1995 Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003 Larrivee Parlor 2010 Gibson SG Classic

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benjammin420 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 15,019 Thanks: 708 Thanked 304 Times in 90 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect I've never come across that type of defect before __________________ "Funkapus" 4/8/2012 http://soundcloud.com/benjammin420/funkapus

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Inside Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 874 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 5 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Should have never left the store either.

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09-30-2011, 04:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Joe Dirt Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Must have been a Friday guitar.

09-30-2011, 07:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
68_Mustang Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 588 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Send it back, IMHO all the SG Standards have a nice necks. For the price of that guitar, it is unacceptable. My SG Standard is awesome, great guitar.

09-30-2011, 08:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Thumpalumpacus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hill Country Posts: 54,279 Thanks: 1,205 Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Add my voice to the "send it back" contingent. __________________ _____________________________________________ My Soundcloud

09-30-2011, 08:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
68_Mustang Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 588 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect It looks like just a cosmetic issue, but for a $1000 guitar, it is totally unacceptable. I won't pay $300 for a guitar that has a flaw like that.

09-30-2011, 09:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
StompIt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Thanks Guys! I sent it back to MF tonight... I should have my replacement SG by the middle of next week! bgfthntr and 68_Mustang like this.

09-30-2011, 09:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
HRC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,748 Thanks: 278 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Good decision. Let us know how the new one works out. __________________ If You Can't Play 'em, Relic 'em Axaholics Bluesville Junction

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10-06-2011, 11:17 AM	#17 (permalink)
StompIt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Got the replacement SG yesterday and IM GOOD to GO! It looks great. However, the setup was lacking. It had a bit too much relief and the action was set way high. After 30 minutes of adjustment it plays as good as the last one. Thanks everyone! Thumpalumpacus and bgfthntr like this.

10-06-2011, 11:20 AM	#18 (permalink)
randelli MLP Vendor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,732 Thanks: 113 Thanked 142 Times in 45 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Glad it worked out!! __________________ I never look at the drummer; it only encourages him ~randelli Website:www.RudeMoodAmp.com Questions:randy@rudemoodamp.com YouTube:www.youtube.com/user/RudeMoodAmp Facebook:www.facebook.com/RudeMoodAmp Twitter:www.twitter.com/@RudeMoodAmp

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HRC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,748 Thanks: 278 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect __________________ If You Can't Play 'em, Relic 'em Axaholics Bluesville Junction

10-06-2011, 11:36 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 4,407 Thanks: 57 Thanked 78 Times in 28 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Glad you sent it back! __________________

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5F6-A Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sir Titus Salt's Land Posts: 7,983 Thanks: 396 Thanked 504 Times in 119 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect brilliant!! __________________ “The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.” Sören Kierkegaard

10-06-2011, 05:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
randelli MLP Vendor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,732 Thanks: 113 Thanked 142 Times in 45 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect How about a few full-body glamour shots!! __________________ I never look at the drummer; it only encourages him ~randelli Website:www.RudeMoodAmp.com Questions:randy@rudemoodamp.com YouTube:www.youtube.com/user/RudeMoodAmp Facebook:www.facebook.com/RudeMoodAmp Twitter:www.twitter.com/@RudeMoodAmp

10-09-2011, 12:19 AM	#24 (permalink)
noah76 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pomona , NY Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect I don't understand how that got passed QC. That should have never left the factory. Well I'm glad you got a new guitar and are happy with it. But this shouldn't of happened in the first place. Rock on

10-09-2011, 12:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
Thumpalumpacus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hill Country Posts: 54,279 Thanks: 1,205 Thanked 687 Times in 79 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Nice to see a happy ending. __________________ _____________________________________________ My Soundcloud

10-09-2011, 09:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
StompIt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 8 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My Replacement :( Well.... I spoke too soon. I was checking the neck relief closely yesterday and saw what looked like a flake of wood. Upon closer inspection I realized that there are at least four areas on the fretboard where the rosewood is missing. Im not sure what would cause this in the Gibson process, but its not going to stay at my house. I looked over my old Les Paul just to make sure I wasnt crazy and its smooth as silk. On the second photo, there are actually two areas of flaked out wood on either side of the separated area (On the right side defect , right at the fretwire, is where I saw the lifted flake that caught my eye). Im going to send this one back for a refund. I'm really surprised about the lack of QC on these USA guitars. Im really not trying to complain or knock Gibson, because my LP has been one of my favorites over the years. Maybe I need to try a company like Wildwood who will thoroughly check over the guitar. Ralph https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...0/DSC03845.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...0/DSC03860.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...0/DSC03851.JPG

10-09-2011, 11:27 AM	#27 (permalink)
Marlboro13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ocean Posts: 509 Thanks: 15 Thanked 26 Times in 5 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Dude, this fretboard looks like demolition wood. __________________

10-09-2011, 02:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
WahChickaWahWah Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 308 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SG Headstock Defect Wow. Why not try Sweetwater? Prices are competitive enough and you can view photos of and select the actual instrument you will be shipped. bgfthntr likes this.

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