Fake??

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:06 PM

GIBSON LES PAUL SUPREME DESERT BURST - ELECTRIC! - (eBay item 220160154138 end time Oct-14-07 13:24:29 PDT)

lp59aholicDon · 10-16-2007, 06:09 PM

Hmm That Moustache headstock , the body cut Somethin just looks and feels off about that guitar Mighta just been a bad day at the Gibson plant, A QA half asleep at the job, Gibson stopped putting out Factory Seconds long ago

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

Hmm That Moustache headstock , the body cut Somethin just looks and feels off about that guitar Mighta just been a bad day at the Gibson plant, A QA half asleep at the job, Gibson stopped putting out Factory Seconds long ago

I thought all supremes had ebony fingerboards as well...

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:13 PM

Looks like one of these Chinease jobs to me... someone just got f'd

PaylessGuitars.com

MIDNIGHT · 10-16-2007, 06:13 PM

hmm..

looks kinda suspicious..

(Sherlock Holmes mode

)

well.. you know what.. it doesn't look fake.. looks more like wrong labelling.. it doesn't look like a desert burst.. kinda tobacco-burst-ish to me..

what do you think?

lp59aholicDon · 10-16-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchEtech

I thought all supremes had ebony fingerboards as well...

That I wasnt aware of, Check the Gibson site for current features? I dunno Just lookin at the pics I got this feel I was lookin at a Korean or CHines guitar with a Gibson Headstock and forged imprint serials even if I could see
" Made in th USA " imprint

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

That I wasnt aware of, Check the Gibson site for current features? I dunno Just lookin at the pics I got this feel I was lookin at a Korean or CHines guitar with a Gibson Headstock and forged imprint serials even if I could see
" Made in th USA " imprint

Body looks thin, and yes just something off about it...

lp59aholicDon · 10-16-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchEtech

Body looks thin, and yes just something off about it...

Yeppers that was another thing that struck me also , Oh well, Glad I aint buying it, Maybe some Lawyer will , looking for future investment portfoilo

captain tightpants · 10-16-2007, 06:25 PM

If you read the whole thing, it actually states that it is a "Chinese version" of a Les Paul Supreme. Of course after he puts "Gibson USA" on it!

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by captain tightpants

If you read the whole thing, it actually states that it is a "Chinese version" of a Les Paul Supreme. Of course after he puts "Gibson USA" on it!

Oh really ya I see it at a second glance - I didn't see it at first, and obvioulsy the buyer didn't notice. I emailed him.

MIDNIGHT · 10-16-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by midnightdreamer

well.. you know what.. it doesn't look fake.. looks more like wrong labelling.. it doesn't look like a desert burst.. kinda tobacco-burst-ish to me..

what do you think?

oh wait.. scratch that..

i was thinking of the LP STANDARD desert burst

hmm..

are the truss rod covers originally engraved with "Les Paul" already?

captain tightpants · 10-16-2007, 06:29 PM

nevermind, mistake.

Yeah, I'mn gonna e-mail him too, he got ripped.

lp59aholicDon · 10-16-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain tightpants

If you read the whole thing, it actually states that it is a "Chinese version" of a Les Paul Supreme. Of course after he puts "Gibson USA" on it!

and Some True blue idiot just paid over 1,1300 for it

Oh well I gues ole PT Barum was right about suckers

lp59aholicDon · 10-16-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by captain tightpants

Read the auction, under the colorful "Desert Burst, the first line of the description! And I wasn't sticking up for the guy, he straight up ripped off whoever bought that thing!

I dunno but I would say, having some law enforcement experiece that this could pass as a fraud case and now most likely an interstate fraud case, FBI time

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lp59aholicDon

and Some True blue idiot just paid over 1,1300 for it

Oh well I gues ole PT Barum was right about suckers

I emailed ebay and gibson about it, as well as the buyer...

The seller was banking on someone missing the fine print. Its still ripping someone off when under the rest of the description he's talking about gibson this and gibson that..

As well wouldn't this still be selling a fake? It doesn't clearly sake its a fake, and it has Gibson USA on the back and probably a fake seiral number. I don't care what the seller had is his descrption, you can't sell bootleg DVD's on ebay either...

lp59aholicDon · 10-16-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchEtech

I emailed ebay and gibson about it, as well as the buyer...

The seller was banking on someone missing the fine print. Its still ripping someone off when under the rest of the description he's talking about gibson this and gibson that..

exactly not to mention the made in usa stamp and yes Gibson in big letters everywhere Chinese copy in very small print , Welp If the buyer IS a lawyer hes got a fraud case to win . I Cant stand dishonest and underhanded F**ks like that

captain tightpants · 10-16-2007, 06:37 PM

How did you email the buyer, ebay wouldn't let me?

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by captain tightpants

How did you email the buyer, ebay wouldn't let me?

I don't know, as log as you have an ebay account and are logged it, it should let you.

It actually would be considered counterfit, and you can't sell such items on ebay.

ArchEtech · 10-16-2007, 07:38 PM

Gibson already emailed me back and is going after the seller.

captain tightpants · 10-17-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ArchEtech

Gibson already emailed me back and is going after the seller.

Good, glad to hear. Hope the buyer didn't pay yet.

LoKi · 10-19-2007, 05:34 PM

Damn... I could tell it was a fake immediately, but I think it helps that I've owned probably 20 Gibson Les Pauls in my lifetime... I feel bad for anybody who gets ripped off on EGAY on this sort of thing. I hope that seller gets banned and sued accordingly.

Inside Guy · 10-19-2007, 06:53 PM

There are so many things wrong with that guitar. The stickers on the pickups are a dead giveaway, the input jack plate is too small (and should be Gold)for a Supreme, binding over the frets, and the frets should aslo be gold.

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 10-20-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by captain tightpants

If you read the whole thing, it actually states that it is a "Chinese version" of a Les Paul Supreme. Of course after he puts "Gibson USA" on it!

Its a chinese Fake & crap too

Paul · 10-20-2007, 01:26 AM

it looks a bit suss the headstock shape seems a bit off if it is a fake its a very good one.

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 10-20-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul

it looks a bit suss the headstock shape seems a bit off if it is a fake its a very good one.

till you see what it is made of & the hacked electronics

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 10-20-2007, 10:27 AM

real

Fake

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 10-20-2007, 10:31 AM

REAL

Fake

***FLICKOFLASH*** · 10-20-2007, 10:38 AM

Les Paul Supreme have bigger Jack plates as well ,that is how the electronics are installed

JoeShell1110 · 10-20-2007, 12:11 PM

The only time I had stickers on my pups, were on Epiphone and the serial number looks weird.

im_b0r3d_ · 10-20-2007, 12:30 PM

You can tell most are fakes before looking at pictures. Just the way the guy types and everything.

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captain tightpants V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orland CA Posts: 4,768 Thanks: 58 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fake?? nevermind, mistake. Yeah, I'mn gonna e-mail him too, he got ripped.

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ArchEtech V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Fake?? Gibson already emailed me back and is going after the seller. __________________ 2007 Les Paul Custom 200x Fender Mary Kaye Relic V-Neck See thru Blond 2008 Fender Custom Classic V-Neck Daphne Blue 2003 MIM Strat Faded Green Metalic A couple of Alvarez Acoustics AMPS: VOX AD60VTX, Micro Cube

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LoKi V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 5,792 Thanks: 109 Thanked 18 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Fake?? Damn... I could tell it was a fake immediately, but I think it helps that I've owned probably 20 Gibson Les Pauls in my lifetime... I feel bad for anybody who gets ripped off on EGAY on this sort of thing. I hope that seller gets banned and sued accordingly.

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Inside Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 274 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Fake?? There are so many things wrong with that guitar. The stickers on the pickups are a dead giveaway, the input jack plate is too small (and should be Gold)for a Supreme, binding over the frets, and the frets should aslo be gold.

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