69 Deluxe 1 pc body + neck $5k

[RCCola]

Refinished, but seems like a good deal, no?

1969 GIBSON LES PAUL DELUXE GOLDTOP - eBay (item 230282226682 end time Aug-24-08 00:06:55 PDT)

[jkinnison90]

Pretty.

[Mike60]

Originally Posted by RCCola

Refinished, but seems like a good deal, no?

1969 GIBSON LES PAUL DELUXE GOLDTOP - eBay (item 230282226682 end time Aug-24-08 00:06:55 PDT)

...the s/n pre-dates a deluxe...so,this is most likely a P-90 Standard and should have the long neck tenon and would be a steal,if in fact it IS a standard...

[thefishingline]

why the mini's then??

[RCCola]

I used the search at: The Guitar Dater Project - Gibson Serial Number Decoder

Selected 'Electric Solid Body' and 'Serial Number is Impressed into back of headstock' and it said 1969.

[Mike60]

...looks like it might go for a few bucks.

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by RCCola

Refinished, but seems like a good deal, no?

1969 GIBSON LES PAUL DELUXE GOLDTOP - eBay (item 230282226682 end time Aug-24-08 00:06:55 PDT)

If you buy an original case and put the P90s back in and put the correct truss cover on it, you are up over $6500, which I believe is within the range of the current going rate for 68-69 refins (1pc neck / 1pc body). The t-burst refin that sold recently went for about $6500 I think. Mine was a little more, but it was only a top refin. With the BIN gone, it will be interesting to see what it goes for. If it hits $6500, it probably means that the original case is something that could be sold separately if you ever want to sell your GT & get the most for it.

At that price, wouldn't one with original finish and original frets and original case and a dark back be a better deal? here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=020

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by Mike60

...the s/n pre-dates a deluxe...so,this is most likely a P-90 Standard and should have the long neck tenon and would be a steal,if in fact it IS a standard...

Ask him to take a pic of the inside of the neck pickup cavity with the metal plate removed from the bottom of the cavity. If the tenon has two wood screw holes in it, my money says it is a Standard that used to have P90s.

[Mike60]

Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

If you buy an original case and put the P90s back in and put the correct truss cover on it, you are up over $6500, which I believe is within the range of the current going rate for 68-69 refins (1pc neck / 1pc body). The t-burst refin that sold recently went for about $6500 I think. Mine was a little more, but it was only a top refin. With the BIN gone, it will be interesting to see what it goes for. If it hits $6500, it probably means that the original case is something that could be sold separately if you ever want to sell your GT & get the most for it.

At that price, wouldn't one with original finish and original frets and original case and a dark back be a better deal? here:

vintage 1969 Les Paul Gold top - eBay (item 300250734036 end time Aug-25-08 17:12:49 PDT)

...that's another at a very good opening price,but I'm thinking it's a refin judging by the shade of gold in the pics.If it is original finish,then it'll be interesting to see if it gets close to the BIN.

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by Mike60

...that's another at a very good opening price,but I'm thinking it's a refin judging by the shade of gold in the pics.If it is original finish,then it'll be interesting to see if it gets close to the BIN.

I have more pics of that guitar. But most of them are tiny like the ones in the auction. A few are larger. The back and neck are very dark. Looks like a real dark back to me. And the back of the neck has a lot of wear. you can see lots of spots where the finish / gloss has either been dinged or worn. Could be a refin. I don't remember any large patches of finish missing on the back.

[Mike60]

I could be way off base,but my monitor is showing a copper looking gold rather than the right shade of gold I would associate with a '68 & '69.Could be from the camera flash.

[Easy Wind]

Be careful; if it's a 69 Deluxe it's one thing. If it's a 68 that had P-90's, that's a whole different story. But still a refin; 1/2 off for that regardless.

[Mike60]

Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

At that price, wouldn't one with original finish and original frets and original case and a dark back be a better deal? here:

vintage 1969 Les Paul Gold top - eBay (item 300250734036 end time Aug-18-08 20:39:00 PDT)

...This one vanished.Wonder if someone did an off-fleebay deal.

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by Mike60

...This one vanished.Wonder if someone did an off-fleebay deal.

He started a new auction with a lower opening price and a reserve (more tiny pics too):

Vintage 1969 Les Paul Gold Top - eBay (item 300251572878 end time Aug-29-08 02:53:18 PDT)

[Mike60]

pics are awful..

[RCCola]

LOL when you click 'larger picture' it reloads the page with the same size image

[Mike60]

Originally Posted by RCCola

Refinished, but seems like a good deal, no?

1969 GIBSON LES PAUL DELUXE GOLDTOP - eBay (item 230282226682 end time Aug-24-08 00:06:55 PDT)

...somebody did alright.Nice player.

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by Mike60

...somebody did alright.Nice player.

What would be the implications of putting a blank truss cover on it & P90s & calling it a Standard? It has an ealier serial number and 1 pc everything.....I guess it would not make too much difference since it has a complete refin. Not a collector guitar anyway.

[Mike60]

Originally Posted by JimmyAce2006

What would be the implications of putting a blank truss cover on it & P90s & calling it a Standard? It has an ealier serial number and 1 pc everything.....I guess it would not make too much difference since it has a complete refin. Not a collector guitar anyway.

and put some 6850 pots in it...it would pass as a Standard.

which is fine as a player grade.

...however if I bought it as a Standard,even a player grade...I would not be too happy once I ran the s/n through Gibson's shipping ledger...

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by Mike60

and put some 6850 pots in it...it would pass as a Standard.

which is fine as a player grade.

...however if I bought it as a Standard,even a player grade...I would not be too happy once I ran the s/n through Gibson's shipping ledger...

Agreed! But much of the 1969 production is not logged in the ledger. I was able to get scans for my 68 Custom & 68 GT. But they did not have anything for my 69 Custom or 69 GT.

[Mike60]

that's interesting...my understanding is they do have the '69's on file...

[JimmyAce2006]

Originally Posted by Mike60

that's interesting...my understanding is they do have the '69's on file...

Bob Burns (Gibson Customer Service) told me that my 69 Custom & 69 GT serial numbers "fall in blank sections of the ledger." So they may have some 69 info, but they do not have anything on my two 69s.