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Unread 06-22-2010, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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goof rings

I have a 73' deluxe with goof rings around the pickups. But, the pickups are minibucckers which I presumed are original. Does the goof ring necessarily indicate that the guitar has been routed somewhere along the way? Or did they use them on non-routed guitars as well?

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Re: goof rings

I've seen factory goof rings on Deluxes that haven't been routed for buckers, at least on one LP that I can remember seeing. I assume that you've had a look at the routs in yours?
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Re: goof rings

Goof rings are for poor minihum routes done at the factory.
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Re: goof rings



I tend to think they were a design idea rather than a fix for a production error (poor routing). But either way, they were installed at the factory.
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I tend to think they were a design idea rather than a fix for a production error (poor routing).
Certainly could be. I have goof ring screw scars on my Deluxe but it's been routed for HB's so I can't comment on original route neatness. I don't mind the look of goof rings, but the sporadic use of them makes me think it's cosmetic.
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Re: goof rings

when you consider how many thousands of Les Pauls they routed for P90s, I just can't see them all of a sudden not able to route properly.
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Re: goof rings

goof ring is a misnomer; its a pick-up schroud
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when you consider how many thousands of Les Pauls they routed for P90s, I just can't see them all of a sudden not able to route properly.
Maybe not the router, but I have certainly had grain flaws and have had an edge flair from time to time. Particularly if it is flat sawn.
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Re: goof rings

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I've not taken the pickups out. I figured since the rings were seated with what looks like a nail or a tack, rather than a screw, I'd leave it alone. Thanks to all for the info.

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Re: goof rings

Yep, it's been a while & I'd forgotten that they were originally tacked not screwed. I was actually talking to a mate about this yesterday, he's been around a long time and he reckons that Gibson used them on guitars with minor finish issues around the pick up cavities...so there's another theory for you!
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Re: goof rings

If I was to take off the rings what is the best way, so that the tacks will reseat when I put them back on?
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Re: goof rings

Ok, I'll ask. What are goof rings? I've been here for a while, but this is the first I've heard that phrase.
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Re: goof rings

They're the extra white plastic outer rings that fit around the white plastic mini hum rings on some seventies LP Deluxes. I've never seen it but apparently they are on some LP Pros too.
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hbar, Here they is....
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Re: goof rings

Aah, I don't may much attention to Deluxes. Ebony board or stay home, I always say.
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Re: goof rings

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If I was to take off the rings what is the best way, so that the tacks will reseat when I put them back on?
I would suggest leaving them on. LP Deluxes will only go up in value over time. And those with goof rings, being a lot more scarce than those without, will, I believe, attract a higher value.
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Goof rings and a 5-piece top! Superb.
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Re: goof rings

I need those outer ring to retro fit P90's to my routed 71.
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I need those outer ring to retro fit P90's to my routed 71.
I'm pretty sure it won't work. They're not for converting full humbucker holes back to P-90\Mini size. I suppose you could try though...
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I'm pretty sure it won't work. They're not for converting full humbucker holes back to P-90\Mini size. I suppose you could try though...
No, but they would make sure that the pickup didn't wobble around in the routed cavity. Remember how P90s are mounted...
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Re: goof rings

I think it would work.Here's a pic of the routes on my 71 Deluxe.You can see the origanel routes are P90 size.The extra routing for humbuckers makes them slightly wider.The mini humbuckers with their rings are the same size as a P90,so the outer goof hiders should fit a P90 and the ring width should hopefully cover the humbucker routing width.
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Re: goof rings

I am also pretty sure it would work.
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Re: goof rings

Maybe - but I remember comparing the goof rings to the size of a 'bucker ring, and IIRC, the goof ring is still narrower. Still, it's worth a try if you can find a pair of goof rings cheap enough...
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Re: goof rings

I dont think I'll be able to find them at all,so I'll make some to fit.
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Re: goof rings

Ebay!!
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Re: goof rings

First step.I bought a SD vintage P90,have another on order. You can see the routing that needs hiding with a Goof hider. When the other pup comes I'll make the rings.
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Re: goof rings

What I like about this is that you -can- put an HB in it without ruining the guitar.
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