1 Norlin Les Paul is enough.

The_Sentry · 10-27-2009, 03:11 PM

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE MY '80 Les Paul Custom. LOVE IT. Especially since it's been all redone with the final upgrade being the WB Habaneros (with the guitar signed on the inside of the cavity plate by Will Boggs..)

And even though I am left handed....I've actually seen other Norlins for sale...left handed ones. 2 Customs, A Deluxe...

Damn...I hate to admit this...but I passed on 'em.

Reason? I'll grin and bear it, but for long gigs lugging around 11lbs ain't exactly my idea of fun when it's stretched beyond 3 sets. I gig with the Norlin regularly now...but not all the time. My Studio is much, much lighter...

So sure.."man up"...whatever. Last weekend my f'in back was killing me. I also met someone over the weekend who gigged with a guitar just like mine...for 8 years. The dude has permanent shoulder damage.

So...maybe I'll see other Norlins down the road that I might be interested in..but I don't think they're gonna be Les Pauls. I think that Custom is more than enough...more than enough.

I can take some weight, but playing that beast for that long isn't something I look forward to.

Anyways..the question....

I want to shave a pound or two off this guitar if possible. If I remove the pot plate, the shielded input jack, the can around the tone selector switch, and maybe even (ugh) different tuners...how much weight could that shave off?

I don't think I'll do it...but I am curious about this.

EDIT: I'm gonna laugh my arse off if no one answers this....

Cookie-boy · 10-27-2009, 05:55 PM

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Boleskinehouse · 10-27-2009, 05:58 PM

Is not! And not all Norlins are that heavy.

You'll only shave a few ounces. I doubt it would even ad up to a pound.

The_Sentry · 10-27-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boleskinehouse

Is not! And not all Norlins are that heavy.

You'll only shave a few ounces. I doubt it would even ad up to a pound.

Yeah...I was wondering about that....a lot of h/w on those, though.

Either way....I love the sound of it...but I can't see myself gigging with it all the time. It's too damned heavy.

(S'all good though....I will probably have a new custom, handmade guitar by...Christmas....

)

BTW...thanks for replying guys. I know there's a lot of Norlin love here, but I still think it outta be objective, you know?

And no matter how you slice it...11lbs is pretty damned heavy for a guitar.

Lance_S · 10-27-2009, 11:38 PM

Mine is just under 9 lbs. 11 would get a bit heavy over time.

diceman · 10-28-2009, 12:27 AM

My Norlin is also under 9lbs. 8lbs 14oz.

On an almost unrelated note, 2 Les Pauls is enough. One with HBs, one with P90s.

I'm sure that Boles has a photo rebuttal.

45WinMag · 10-28-2009, 02:18 AM

Someday Boles will own every Les Paul.

Cookie-boy · 10-28-2009, 02:21 AM

I can think of a damned good reason for owning every one of these!

Just try me!

Atomic · 10-28-2009, 03:00 AM

stone the infidel!!!!!

Cookie-boy · 10-28-2009, 03:12 AM

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jimmyq · 10-28-2009, 05:58 AM

Nice photo, Cookie

Cookie-boy · 10-28-2009, 07:44 AM

Thanks, Jimbo!

kernelofwisdom · 10-28-2009, 07:52 AM

THAT was an awesome pic C-B!

Cookie-boy · 10-28-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernelofwisdom

THAT was an awesome pic C-B!

Cheers Kernel, isn't Sentry talking a load of old bollocks on this thead!!

You can NEVER have too many Norlins!!

Maybe he should chop out of that old Custom and get himself a LP Special.

Cookie-boy · 10-28-2009, 08:12 AM

Shit wrong pic!!!

Deftone · 10-28-2009, 08:20 AM

How about a post Norlin, '87-'89 LP Custom Lite? I've never weighed them, but I'm sure mine are all under 9 lbs., maybe less than 8 lbs.

Crap, I just realized you're a lefty.....sorry.

V!N · 10-28-2009, 09:07 AM

If it's just your shoulder you're worried about, one of these might help.

Planet Waves DARE Strap

V!N · 10-28-2009, 09:11 AM

Or one of these.

Slider Straps Dual Shoulder Strap

diceman · 10-28-2009, 09:38 AM

Cookie - those are all fantastic!

Great pic.

The_Sentry · 10-28-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V!N

If it's just your shoulder you're worried about, one of these might help.

Planet Waves DARE Strap

Nah...it ain't that....it's just the reality that an 11lb guitar gets really f'in heavy once you get into 4 or 5 sets.

I'm glad some folks have lighter Norlins...but mine's heavy. Super heavy.

(Still...I'd love to find an old archtop from that era. Just no more LP Customs!

)

Lance_S · 10-28-2009, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V!N

Or one of these.

Slider Straps Dual Shoulder Strap

There is absolutely NO WAY Sentry is going to be seen gigging with a guitar strap that looks like a bra! Holy crap, that is the worst thing I have seen in a long time. If you can't hold it up, get a strat, but whatever you do, DON'T get one of those!!!!!!

Boleskinehouse · 10-28-2009, 01:17 PM

If it is any consolation, I only have three Norlins and one of those is not playable at the moment.

Lance_S · 10-28-2009, 01:17 PM

But I do recommend one of those black and white cougar print shirts with the matching shoes!!!!!

: naughty:

The_Sentry · 10-28-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance_S

But I do recommend one of those black and white cougar print shirts with the matching shoes!!!!!

: naughty:

I don't have much hair...maybe I'll have to a get a Flock of Seagulls wig to go with it...

The_Sentry · 10-28-2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boleskinehouse

If it is any consolation, I only have three Norlins and one of those is not playable at the moment.

Yeah...that's kind of a crime. (especially since you went and bought that new Trad! Tut Tut!)

So...that sucker's gonna be nickel'd to the max, right? Or...is it gonna be

*gasp*

Ch-ch-ch-ch-chrome?

Boleskinehouse · 10-28-2009, 01:25 PM

Nickel!

It donated its chrome to the '81.

The_Sentry · 10-28-2009, 01:36 PM

Sweet! It outta look killer...so you're gonna have to budget...what...between 5-700 dollars to get that thing back on the road?

Boleskinehouse · 10-28-2009, 01:46 PM

Maybe a little more. It needs everything.

Cookie-boy · 10-28-2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lance_S

But I do recommend one of those black and white cougar print shirts with the matching shoes!!!!!

: naughty:

.......and the flock of seagulls comb-over and Sentry's regulation hat that I love should really look the dogs bollocks!!!

Kate033 · 10-28-2009, 01:46 PM

Killer pic Cookie

A Black Beauty and Ferrari Red

You've swept me off my feet...I think I'm in love!!!

All you need is a old goldtop that is checked, beaten and bruised until it's turned green....then I'm all yours

On a serious note, I think you have to judge Norlins in particular on a case to case basis. I've seen some great ones and some that are just so so. 11lb. is a back breaker any way you look at it. I have a 10lb+ LP and even though it sounds great, I couldn't imagine gigging it on a regular basis....a better choice for home or studio...then again Jimmy Page's #1 burst is only 7 1/2 lbs. and look at all the back trouble he's had.
With a nice thick strap, it's doable...I'd just rotate in some lighter guitars during your gig to balance it out and save your back.

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The_Sentry Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 17,229 Thanks: 448 Thanked 497 Times in 107 Posts	1 Norlin Les Paul is enough. Don't get me wrong...I LOVE MY '80 Les Paul Custom. LOVE IT. Especially since it's been all redone with the final upgrade being the WB Habaneros (with the guitar signed on the inside of the cavity plate by Will Boggs..) And even though I am left handed....I've actually seen other Norlins for sale...left handed ones. 2 Customs, A Deluxe... Damn...I hate to admit this...but I passed on 'em. Reason? I'll grin and bear it, but for long gigs lugging around 11lbs ain't exactly my idea of fun when it's stretched beyond 3 sets. I gig with the Norlin regularly now...but not all the time. My Studio is much, much lighter... So sure.."man up"...whatever. Last weekend my f'in back was killing me. I also met someone over the weekend who gigged with a guitar just like mine...for 8 years. The dude has permanent shoulder damage. So...maybe I'll see other Norlins down the road that I might be interested in..but I don't think they're gonna be Les Pauls. I think that Custom is more than enough...more than enough. I can take some weight, but playing that beast for that long isn't something I look forward to. Anyways..the question.... I want to shave a pound or two off this guitar if possible. If I remove the pot plate, the shielded input jack, the can around the tone selector switch, and maybe even (ugh) different tuners...how much weight could that shave off? I don't think I'll do it...but I am curious about this. EDIT: I'm gonna laugh my arse off if no one answers this.... __________________ The Geartalk Video Blog Last edited by The_Sentry; 10-27-2009 at 04:56 PM.

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Kate033 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 913 Thanks: 23 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1 Norlin Les Paul is enough. Killer pic Cookie A Black Beauty and Ferrari Red You've swept me off my feet...I think I'm in love!!! All you need is a old goldtop that is checked, beaten and bruised until it's turned green....then I'm all yours On a serious note, I think you have to judge Norlins in particular on a case to case basis. I've seen some great ones and some that are just so so. 11lb. is a back breaker any way you look at it. I have a 10lb+ LP and even though it sounds great, I couldn't imagine gigging it on a regular basis....a better choice for home or studio...then again Jimmy Page's #1 burst is only 7 1/2 lbs. and look at all the back trouble he's had. With a nice thick strap, it's doable...I'd just rotate in some lighter guitars during your gig to balance it out and save your back.

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